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Tory Leadership Race

It's interesting that the elderly buffers thought that they knew better than the MPs who actually work with the pair and decided to vote in the person whom the MPs didn't want and who didn't announce any policies during this long and winding election road
 
I was hoping Jenrick would win, he seemed to me the more experienced of the two, neither of whom I really found to be inspiring leadership material.

But, in Badenoch the Tories at least have a leader who might ruffle a few Labour feathers. She tends to call a spade a shovel and is not afraid to speak out on controversial issues.

Good luck to her. She's going to need it, but I doubt she'll still be leader in 5 year's time.
 
There's a complete mainstream Tory boomer mythos on race. It's all based upon Martin Luther King Jnr myths itself....It's as if they think Badenoch is a proper representative of what a properly integrated society could become....something based on self delusion and hope over experience.

This isn't all the Tory base but as we see here in this election it's the majority of it.

The case should never be made....and in reality it's only made by the left's commentary.....that people on the right think that non Europeans can never be 'one of us'. It's a claim I reject because a minority can and are. I can think of many examples, from David Kurten to Neema Parvini, who are major DR voices....Badenoch herself is an integrated success story.

However, this Martin Luther King pipe dream that was deliberately taught by the elites and their media to boomers and their children is exactly why your urban streets are now more unsafe...some no go areas for the sensible and it's why you are living with increased knife crime.. And it's why the whole corporate and institutional world is looking to phase whitey out of jobs, call him racist and evil and shift power and wealth away from him, while your white underclass girls can be raped by grooming gangs without interest nor alarm......but if you live far away and don't live it day to day the head can still be buried in the sand.....If you have the ladder why care if you're pulling it up eh.

Here is Neema Parvini himself attacking the Tory boomer mythos on race....and he uses Francis Foster of Trigonometry to do it and it fully explains how you get the supposedly Tory base voting for someone, born here, but raised outside the UK to lead them.

 
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Neither was sensible but Badenoch is worse by a country mile. She holds some seriously nasty opinions.

Unless the MPs find a way to kick her out after a year by refusing to work with her the Tories are on the slippery slope to becoming an insignificant rival to Reform.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Neither was sensible but Badenoch is worse by a country mile. She holds some seriously nasty opinions.

Unless the MPs find a way to kick her out after a year by refusing to work with her the Tories are on the slippery slope to becoming an insignificant rival to Reform.
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Let us be honest she couldn't run a bath. I would like an effective opposition, in the end it will open the door for Farage and his collection of far right cronies, Cable Street all over again.
 
It is a glimmer of hope that Badenoch has won. The problem is that most Conservative MPs are Conservative in name only and they will be itching to subvert the choice of the membership.
 
She's a completely inexperienced, very unimpressive individual with zero charisma who seems to have a lot of personal grudges. Really? ... are the Tory rank and file on the same planet as the rest of us?
She will be unable to provide credible opposition to the Labour Party and will probably give the Tories what Jo Swinson gave the Liberal Democrats .... not a lot.
 
She will do Ok on the opposition benches , the Tories will need to find better though if they are going to have a chance of getting votes back from reform
 
Midlands Eagle said:
It's interesting that the elderly buffers thought that they knew better than the MPs who actually work with the pair and decided to vote in the person whom the MPs didn't want and who didn't announce any policies during this long and winding election road
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And who can blame them for not trusring the MPs' judgment? It was the MPs who in their wisdom got rid of James Cleverley,
 
JRW2 said:
And who can blame them for not trusring the MPs' judgment? It was the MPs who in their wisdom got rid of James Cleverley,
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How on earth was a James Cleverly going to win back Reform voters?

Reform just winning the Bilston North seat on Wolverhampton council from Labour during a vote on Thursday by the way.

Anita Stanley secured 652 votes, almost 200 more than Labour who only narrowly beat the Greens. The Conservatives polled 257 votes to come in fourth.
 
beak said:
Let us be honest she couldn't run a bath. I would like an effective opposition, in the end it will open the door for Farage and his collection of far right cronies, Cable Street all over again.
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Well done, you managed to cram in a disparaging metaphor, 'far right' and a historical reference to would be fascists.

You are a quality lefty cliché.
 
I am of course disappointed that Robert Jenrick was not elected leader, but I congratulate Kemi Badenoch and wish her well in her endeavours to renew the party.

I have been in conversation with a host of members and the 'Mood Music' was that we must be united in our determination to support our new leader with our time, our energy and our shared commitment to speak up for the British people and speak out against this tax hiking, promise breaking, socialist government.
Kemi Badenoch needs our support to counter Labour’s mistruths, stop Labour rewriting history, hold them to account for every broken promise. And to be a voice for our shared values.
 
Midlands Eagle said:
It's interesting that the elderly buffers thought that they knew better than the MPs who actually work with the pair and decided to vote in the person whom the MPs didn't want and who didn't announce any policies during this long and winding election road
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How do you know who the CPP wanted to win?
 
She good on the alphabet fruitcakes and no fan of our Blairite civil service, I'll give her that, but she's no great shakes on immigration.

She's a tiny bit better than Sunak, which just doesn't cut it.

She is aggressively against Reform, which was the general tenor of all the Conservative candidates, which is tone deaf and just pure short term careerism.

Another aspect is that of the 131 thousand eligible to vote she only polled 51 thousand in a two horse race...Less than 75 percent of them voted....Not great.

The fact that both Labour and the Liberals focused upon celebrating the fact that the Tories elected a black woman as leader tells you all you need to know about it.

But far more notable and damning than that is that when she was announced as leader the fact that she was black and a woman was focused on and loudly cheered as if identity politics was something the Tories were doing now even though she's the fourth female leader since the 70s..... and the announcer spoke about 'glass ceilings shattered' in much the same language as the progressives use.....This talk coming from the leader of the Conservative 1922 committee!

Leftist and feminist language.....Liberalism.....Then James Cleverly comes out and tweets that Labour are, 'male, pale and stale'.

Yeah, some chance of winning back Reform voters I think not.

The evidence of this talk can be found at the eight minute mark of the indicated video.

 
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JRW2 said:
And who can blame them for not trusring the MPs' judgment? It was the MPs who in their wisdom got rid of James Cleverley,
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It wasn’t though wisdom was it?

It was miscalculation.

The only way the Tories have any chance of remaining a major party is to ensure the MPs alone decide who among them they choose to lead them in Parliament. The membership can choose the Chairman and Board of Management but once we chose the MPs then the baton passes to them alone.
 
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