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Israel v Iran

Stirlingsays said:
The 'far right' of which you speak here (though I wouldn't put Carlson and Owens in the same bracket as Blizerian), this 'far right' hold many of the same opinions you have outside of this topic.

Even on this topic they are similar to you, insomuch if their personal country was attacked they would probably be as fire and brimstone as yourself.

They have a 'first' loyalty to an ethnicity same as you do, it's just a different one.

I understand why right wing British Jews would support Israel, though I'd also say that what old Netty is doing is very much open to criticism even from a Zionist perspective......being that it's an 'all eggs in one basket' approach. Rather intelligently he's taken the opportunity to attack them one by one and the Arabs rather stupidly just let it happen (except the houthis).

More fool them and well played Netty/US....Even if this involves the horrible death of countless innocents alone the way.

Will he succeed or not.....it's open to criticism and also support depending upon opinion. There are many consequences flowing from this that few of us can realistically be sure about.....the splitting of the US right on the topic seems a real threat.

Which is why this thread is real example of free speech in my opinion.....because it contains strong points from both perspectives.

It's one of those topics though that contains very little 'meeting in the middle', which with war is usually the case.
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Tucker seems to agree that Churchill was the chief villain of WW2, thinks Ukraine are the bad guys and has U-turned on his earlier views on Israel. It appears that he is in the pay of Qatar which is spending millions of dollars in the USA to push their anti Israel narrative. If that's the case, then he has zero principles whatsoever. It's interesting while all the dumbos still think that Israel has so much control in the US, they are ignorant of Qatar's real and very worrying influence.
 
Penge Eagle said:
Tucker seems to agree that Churchill was the chief villain of WW2, thinks Ukraine are the bad guys and has U-turned on his earlier views on Israel. It appears that he is in the pay of Qatar which is spending millions of dollars in the USA to push their anti Israel narrative. If that's the case, then he has zero principles whatsoever. It's interesting while all the dumbos still think that Israel has so much control in the US, they are ignorant of Qatar's real and very worrying influence.
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Sounds like he could be a good fit as a British PM, or is there one anyway, asking for a friend. Don, actually.
 
Penge Eagle said:
Tucker seems to agree that Churchill was the chief villain of WW2, thinks Ukraine are the bad guys and has U-turned on his earlier views on Israel. It appears that he is in the pay of Qatar which is spending millions of dollars in the USA to push their anti Israel narrative. If that's the case, then he has zero principles whatsoever. It's interesting while all the dumbos still think that Israel has so much control in the US, they are ignorant of Qatar's real and very worrying influence.
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Let's just say our opinions don't align on this.
 
Penge Eagle said:
Tucker seems to agree that Churchill was the chief villain of WW2, thinks Ukraine are the bad guys and has U-turned on his earlier views on Israel. It appears that he is in the pay of Qatar which is spending millions of dollars in the USA to push their anti Israel narrative. If that's the case, then he has zero principles whatsoever. It's interesting while all the dumbos still think that Israel has so much control in the US, they are ignorant of Qatar's real and very worrying influence.
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....and overpowered military. Have you seen their military spend and inventory?
 
Left-wing groups helped Islamists overthrow the Shah regime in 1979. But they were eventually eliminated by the people they help being to power. Well done Commies 👏🏻👏🏻

Now the same ignorant alliance of scumbags are protesting on the streets of London supporting the Iran government.

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Penge Eagle said:
Left-wing groups helped Islamists overthrow the Shah regime in 1979. But they were eventually eliminated by the people they help being to power. Well done Commies 👏🏻👏🏻

Now the same ignorant alliance of scumbags are protesting on the streets of London supporting the Iran government.

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The Russian revolution saw this post overthrow breaking of alliances as well.

But I have to say that in the Russian example the ideological differences weren't anywhere near as dramatically different as an alliance between communists and Islamists.

Then again, the left are idealogically obsessed with overthrowing the status quo (anything that isn't some leftist pipe dream) and anything connected to the west....and maybe that's what happened....they certainly helped set Persia back massively and saw themselves wiped out.
 
Stirlingsays said:
The Russian revolution saw this post overthrow breaking of alliances as well.

But I have to say that in the Russian example the ideological differences weren't anywhere near as dramatically different as an alliance between communists and Islamists.

Then again, the left are idealogically obsessed with overthrowing the status quo (anything that isn't some leftist pipe dream) and anything connected to the west....and maybe that's what happened....they certainly helped set Persia back massively and saw themselves wiped out.
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Isn’t this exactly what you ‘DR’ lot want?
 
DanH said:
Isn’t this exactly what you ‘DR’ lot want?
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Nope.

If the DR come to power it won't have been from overthrowing a government.....least not one that hasn't collasped.

And it certainly won't be making alliances with Islamists.....as the above shows, that's more the playbook of the left.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Nope.

If the DR come to power it won't have been from overthrowing a government.....least not one that hasn't collasped.

And it certainly won't be making alliances with Islamists.....as the above shows, that's more the playbook of the left.
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More intrigued rather than trying to catch you out here. Isn’t the entire MAGA movement essentially a rally against the western/US status quo though?
 
Palestine Action rep "Saeed Taji Farouky"

He's British but seems disinterested in being British what with his life revolving around the Arab world around Israel.

According to him their sabotage of military aircraft on a military base was fine and the reaction of the government is undemocratic and unlawful.

Why is this c*** even a British citizen? Strip it and deport

www.bbc.co.uk

Palestine Action member tells BBC plan to ban group 'absurd'

The BBC understands the home secretary will move to proscribe the group in the coming weeks.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Spindle said:
Palestine Action rep "Saeed Taji Farouky"

He's British but seems disinterested in being British what with his life revolving around the Arab world around Israel.

According to him their sabotage of military aircraft on a military base was fine and the reaction of the government is undemocratic and unlawful.

Why is this c*** even a British citizen? Strip it and deport

www.bbc.co.uk

Palestine Action member tells BBC plan to ban group 'absurd'

The BBC understands the home secretary will move to proscribe the group in the coming weeks.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Serious jail time for military sabotage, talking decades
 
DanH said:
More intrigued rather than trying to catch you out here. Isn’t the entire MAGA movement essentially a rally against the western/US status quo though?
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Well, the MAGA movement started out as an American version of the DR...that first Trump and then.....only because he became successful.....then the GOP cooped.

You had the tea party movement...which was very boiler plate GOP but with Trump that has essentially changed into MAGA.....And Trump himself required the Obama administration to really get popular.

It's become basically small 'n' nationalist both economic and social with Trump's face and takes on it.
 
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Penge Eagle said:
What is DR?
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At the root, it's what the term implies, the right wing that are unhappy with the mainstream right wing political options usually because it's socially liberal or sold out to corporate globalism.

Like all movements it's not a collection of people who all agree with each other on everything, but it can be characterised as being socially conservative and nationalist....the degree of which depends upon the individual.
 
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