Grooming gangs

[Teddy Eagle]

I listened to some of it but Maggie Oliver’s contribution to this is well known and not new. She is a brave, honest and caring lady who observed things she knew were wrong and spoke out. Her contribution was partly responsible for the provision of greater resources which she herself acknowledges was a significant problem, alongside the directive from the centre to tackle things quietly.

Alongside the other stuff pulling Maggie Oliver back onto centre stage, when things have moved on from her putting the issue in the spotlight, raises the question of why now?

It’s not an accident. Someone is stirring a pot. It has little or nothing to do with any genuine concerns about the victims.

Still the same story.
1. Don't talk about it until you know the facts.
2. Don't talk about when the facts are known because it's in the past.
3. Don't talk about it.

 

[georgenorman]

Typical misinformed emotional nonsense from you.

To suggest this was somehow the fault of the “left” is just ridiculous.

This was an issue that was poorly understood and not given the attention it deserved at first. That wasn’t deliberate. Combined with a lack of resources in the areas it happened in together with a lack of cooperation from a suspicious local population the police faced problems, which were compounded by decisions now seen to be mistakes.

Nobody is apologising for rapists, or terrorists. Every criminal needs to be detected and others deterred from imitating them. The only questions are how best to achieve that. Not if we must.

The mass-rape of children by men of predominately Pakistani ‘heritage’ was clearly and obviously not given priority by the police. In your defence of the indefensible, you talk of the police ‘quietly’ going about their work, the only thing they seem to have done was to quietly threaten concerned parents and the children themselves with arrest. You talk of resources and priorities. Plenty of resources and priority given to prosecuting men of predominately British white ‘heritage’ who regrettably reacted against the years of the Left/Liberal policies that have facilitated the mass rape of children, regular acts of terrorism and crime in general. Also, plenty of resources given to the policing of women silently praying in public streets, prosecuting cake shops for refusing to support calls to legalise gay marriage and prosecuting people for heinous crimes such as using a personal pronoun, the use of which, some deviant wants to impose on them.
You seek to trivialise the call for an inquiry and justice by describing it as a “bandwagon”. You call criticism of the mass child-rape by predominately Muslim men and the lack of police action “misinformed emotional nonsense”. What sort of person does not feel a little ‘emotional’ when children are raped? You can squirt your squid-ink as much as you like. Most people can see and smell what is in front of their nose.

 

[The Dolphin]

The truth is that this happened, as it did in other places and there should be a massive enquiry and all concerned who did wrong or covered up should be named and imprisoned.
The Tories had their chance but failed and now Labour don't it because there are too many Labour people involved as well the racial side and they certainly don't want to upset them.
it is shameful and if it were something they could throw at white people, they would be all over it.

 

[The Dolphin]

Oh - and Wisbech - some of your comments have no place on this or any other forum and I would ask that you are banned from this site immediately.

 

[Eaglehamster]

I can only think of two reasons for the intolerable inaction by the authorities:

Fear of a reaction from Islamic sections - probably violent.

Islamic infiltration controlling policy.

Neither acceptable.

 

[Eaglehamster]

Oh - and Wisbech - some of your comments have no place on this or any other forum and I would ask that you are banned from this site immediately.

Banning people whose views you don’t agree with, is anathema to a fair forum. Where do you stop?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Still the same story.
1. Don't talk about it until you know the facts.
2. Don't talk about when the facts are known because it's in the past.
3. Don't talk about it.

What are you talking about?

Maggie Oliver did talk about it. Many others listened, talked too and reacted.

Talk about all of it by all means, but not just the past.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The truth is that this happened, as it did in other places and there should be a massive enquiry and all concerned who did wrong or covered up should be named and imprisoned.
The Tories had their chance but failed and now Labour don't it because there are too many Labour people involved as well the racial side and they certainly don't want to upset them.
it is shameful and if it were something they could throw at white people, they would be all over it.

You are another over-reacting to the wind up merchants. Why now, just because Musk wants to stir up hatred?

What evidence exists to justify the accusations of Labour being “involved “? That’s a very specific statement. Taking any particular approach to finding solutions does not equate to involvement.

Who are these “white” people? Categorising people by any kind of arbitrary measure is rightly unacceptable today.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I can only think of two reasons for the intolerable inaction by the authorities:

Fear of a reaction from Islamic sections - probably violent.

Islamic infiltration controlling policy.

Neither acceptable.

Neither true.

Wanting to avoid alienating the law abiding majority within Islamic communities to ensure they help in bringing the criminals to justice might be true.

There is no Islamic infiltration. There are some duly elected representatives.

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

Neither true.

Wanting to avoid alienating the law abiding majority within Islamic communities to ensure they help in bringing the criminals to justice might be true.

There is no Islamic infiltration. There are some duly elected representatives.

Go away Wisbech. Stop trying to defend this despicable issue. The fact is that under age white girls are systematically abused by Asian men for horrific sexual acts.

These men should be stopped and punished.

 

[cryrst]

I doubt the police are very pleased with the deliberate reigniting of the flames over this and the need for them to have, once again, to be answering press enquiries rather than trying to detect and apprehend criminals.

It’s not about the now! It’s about how the now could have been dealt with years ago when it was highlighted by some people and by the victims with total inaction by plod and the authorities. Just to prevent racial tension apparently, according to some information coming to light fairly recently. The reports of councils destroying evidence or admin potentially related to the grooming gangs is worrying and a total cover up. You keep banging on about your dough from years ago which is a tiny issue compared to mass rapes of young girls and women. Goose and gander !

 

[becky]

Neither true.

Wanting to avoid alienating the law abiding majority within Islamic communities to ensure they help in bringing the criminals to justice might be true.

There is no Islamic infiltration. There are some duly elected representatives.

Why would the law abiding majority within Islamic communities be alienated?

Surely, by the very fact that they are law abiding, they should be only too willing to assist in rooting out the rotten apples in their community barrel ......... it's what would happen with most other 'communities'

 

[Teddy Eagle]

What are you talking about?

Maggie Oliver did talk about it. Many others listened, talked too and reacted.

Talk about all of it by all means, but not just the past.

I'm talking about the attitude expressed on here to anyone who dared question the authorities' response.
Maggie Oliver talked about it and is described as a whistle blower. Why is that? It's because no one else was talking about it.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Another example , if one were needed, where politics influences the Judicial system. Musk and Tommy Robinson being another, but the Asian rape gangs is far more institutionalised, and the scale is staggering.
Makes even the Post Office seem like small potatoes.

 

[Matov]

I can only think of two reasons for the intolerable inaction by the authorities:

Fear of a reaction from Islamic sections - probably violent.

Islamic infiltration controlling policy.

Neither acceptable.

For me, there is a third. A wider, widely held idiocy amongst the loathsome managerial class of parasites who are draining this country dry. Guilt. White-Guilt/shame. Over our heritage, over our Empire. Literally even over the colour of our skin. They believe that the third world are perfectly entitled to seek revenge for the supposed ills of our ancestors, and if that includes the sexual abuse of vulnerable white working class girls, so be it. Throw in the literal addiction that is virtue-signaling and you have the perfect storm.

The plight of these girls an absolute buzz-killer for many of the people whose job was to stop it from happening. A major hindrance to them reveling in the dopamine hits they received by assuring people with a darker skin hue than theirs of how bad they felt about the big bad imperialists of previous centuries.

The avoidance of going 'cold-turkey' a definite part of this disgusting part of our history. I heard them described as collaborators yesterday. And that is a perfectly apt description. Literally colluding with invaders against the native population.

 

[Badger11]

For me, there is a third. A wider, widely held idiocy amongst the loathsome managerial class of parasites who are draining this country dry. Guilt. White-Guilt/shame. Over our heritage, over our Empire. Literally even over the colour of our skin. They believe that the third world are perfectly entitled to seek revenge for the supposed ills of our ancestors, and if that includes the sexual abuse of vulnerable white working class girls, so be it. Throw in the literal addiction that is virtue-signaling and you have the perfect storm.

The plight of these girls an absolute buzz-killer for many of the people whose job was to stop it from happening. A major hindrance to them reveling in the dopamine hits they received by assuring people with a darker skin hue than theirs of how bad they felt about the big bad imperialists of previous centuries.

The avoidance of going 'cold-turkey' a definite part of this disgusting part of our history. I heard them described as collaborators yesterday. And that is a perfectly apt description. Literally colluding with invaders against the native population.

It's just an extension of the "justice system is racist against people of colour". Rather than address the problem of why certain communities have a statistically higher percentage of violent offenders whilst another community has a lower than normal one they decide the problem is the police and not the criminals.

 

[The Dolphin]

Banning people whose views you don’t agree with, is anathema to a fair forum. Where do you stop?

Nothing to do with disagreeing with people's views - respect and enjoy different opinions.
I don't enjoy that man defending grooming gangs and sticking up for those who did it and not wanting to investigate.
Reprehensible, vile, shameful - and that is him - not the grooming gangs - yuk!

 

[The Dolphin]

Oh - and I don't give a stuff about Musk - he should keep his nose out.
He will do Reform more harm than good if he doesn't shut up!

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Banning people whose views you don’t agree with, is anathema to a fair forum. Where do you stop?

the Blair Brown Soapbox.

Let Wisbech stay on here, and keep the diversity of all opinions. Only in debate can we see the true light of reason.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Go away Wisbech. Stop trying to defend this despicable issue. The fact is that under age white girls are systematically abused by Asian men for horrific sexual acts.

These men should be stopped and punished.

The last thing any of my comments on this issue, whenever it surfaces here as it does regularly, do is try to defend the criminals responsible. Of course they should be stopped and punished.

That’s not the point and never has been. It’s stating the obvious.

The only question is how best we can detect them and gather sufficient evidence to see successful prosecutions. That is extremely easy to demand but much harder to achieve, especially if you are a police force operating with your resources constantly being reduced.

So why has it been raised again? Has there been some kind of breakthrough that will enable the tortuous task of bringing these people to justice proceed quicker? Or have politicians, and wanna be politicians decided to blow hot air over it again in order to wind up those they think support them.

For me it’s just more evidence of populist politics doing a disservice to our democracy. It won’t help bring anyone to justice but could, again, divert police resources to deal with it, thus actually delaying justice.

The next thing we will hear is Musk calling for the release of all those jailed after the summer riots and for the restoration of hanging as a punishment for both murder and rape. Both would be popular with a certain sub section of society.