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The Tories are less complicit, but they are still guilty of inaction and allowing the civil service to bully them into said inaction.


The Tories even more so in my opinion. Labour did what they did because it got them votes and influence. There was, albeit a disgusting one, logic to their collusion. But the Tories?

Also, I think my of us in the white community need to look at ourselves as well. The majority of victims never really stood a chance. No real family structures in place, allowed to roam out at all hours of the night, nobody standing up for them. And I suspect many of us would have not wanted our own kids being friends with those poor girls. And we have all been cowed, for various reasons which are understandable but none of them honourable, into having to effectively whisper our outrage lest we lose jobs or even our liberty. Guilty as charged by the way.

Time for that though is coming to an end.
 
The Tories even more so in my opinion. Labour did what they did because it got them votes and influence. There was, albeit a disgusting one, logic to their collusion. But the Tories?

Also, I think my of us in the white community need to look at ourselves as well. The majority of victims never really stood a chance. No real family structures in place, allowed to roam out at all hours of the night, nobody standing up for them. And I suspect many of us would have not wanted our own kids being friends with those poor girls. And we have all been cowed, for various reasons which are understandable but none of them honourable, into having to effectively whisper our outrage lest we lose jobs or even our liberty. Guilty as charged by the way.

Time for that though is coming to an end.
The Tories are mainly social liberals and many of them have stated so.....frankly they haven't deserved the Conservative title for decades...but regardless, they aren't explicitly two tier like Labour are....Well, maybe I should reflect on that remembering what May implemented while in office.

Regardless, we know that the Tory party are basically Cameron filtered careerists and political cowards and that's essentially why nothing happened despite the occasional 'red meat' comment from them.

Maybe you have a point there.

Fully agree with you on the white community.....they have been cucked in their own country and those who voted for the mainstream parties were also complicit. Too many 'I'm alright Jacks' who fed the crocodile.
 
The Tories are mainly social liberals and many of them have stated so.....frankly they haven't deserved the Conservative title for decades...

i still remember the slogan 'Conservative family values'. It is still a popular slogan in the US.

its a bit rich in the UK when the leader of the Conservatives has more baby-mummies than a HipHop DJ. Genghis Boris.

Grooming Gangs........somebody please explain why they are back onto all of the internet ? every news website. Is it Trump/Musk or did i miss another big splash ?
 
i still remember the slogan 'Conservative family values'. It is still a popular slogan in the US.

its a bit rich in the UK when the leader of the Conservatives has more baby-mummies than a HipHop DJ. Genghis Boris.

Grooming Gangs........somebody please explain why they are back onto all of the internet ? every news website. Is it Trump/Musk or did i miss another big splash ?
A judge's comments during sentencing on rapes carried out by one of these gangs (2013) on underage girls went viral on X after a freedom of information request I think (not certain on that last bit).

Anyway when it picked up comments Musk focused on it and is massively criticising the government and essentially here we are. Some might be cynical and notice that it takes the conversation away from the H1B issue in the states.

However, nothing he is saying is 'misinformation' in my view. All we get from government is the perspective that we also get from Cornwall.

Sorry, not good enough and bells are going to toll. It's just a matter of when.
 
Been reading and listening around this current outrage and wanting to urge a little caution. There is zero question about the utter disgust and anger that many of us still feel about what happened. Not only with the disgusting crimes themselves but also the involvement of all levels of Government, Social Service, the Judiciary and the Police force in colluding with the scumbags who carried out these heinous acts.

But it is also clear that our buttons are being deliberately pushed on this by outside interests. By people who have never given the scandals the slightest bit of interest before. Clearly an agenda at play. Question is what?
 
Been reading and listening around this current outrage and wanting to urge a little caution. There is zero question about the utter disgust and anger that many of us still feel about what happened. Not only with the disgusting crimes themselves but also the involvement of all levels of Government, Social Service, the Judiciary and the Police force in colluding with the scumbags who carried out these heinous acts.

But it is also clear that our buttons are being deliberately pushed on this by outside interests. By people who have never given the scandals the slightest bit of interest before. Clearly an agenda at play. Question is what?
It’s simple. Trump and Musk know they have Farage up their arses and Musk is running the Reform agenda and making sure everyone knows it.
What would you expect from a global media megalomaniac? The epitome of elite.
 
It’s simple. Trump and Musk know they have Farage up their arses and Musk is running the Reform agenda and making sure everyone knows it.
What would you expect from a global media megalomaniac? The epitome of elite.


You might want that to be the case but I suspect it is a tad more nuanced. And lets be honest, they are tapping into a rich vein of fully justified seething anger at this that has only been kept at bay because people are literally being threatened with loss of income or their liberty if they dare speak up.

But we are heading towards a potential spark point with the Southport trial due to start. There was already enough tension around that but this literally now a case stirring people up even more.
 
You might want that to be the case but I suspect it is a tad more nuanced. And lets be honest, they are tapping into a rich vein of fully justified seething anger at this that has only been kept at bay because people are literally being threatened with loss of income or their liberty if they dare speak up.

But we are heading towards a potential spark point with the Southport trial due to start. There was already enough tension around that but this literally now a case stirring people up even more.
I agree and ask in whose interests is a tinderbox going off again? It’s easy when you are 5000 miles away on the other side of the Atlantic.
 
I agree and ask in whose interests is a tinderbox going off again? It’s easy when you are 5000 miles away on the other side of the Atlantic.

Thinking out loud here.

There was a definite push to get rid of Starmer in the autumn. Led to him giving Sue Gray the chop, along with him slagging off the civil service. But he survived. Now this....

They (Blair Foundation who are effectively funded by the Globalists) want him gone. And are showing how they can put the pressure on by stirring up this stuff. Interestingly, it was Wes Streeting who spoke up against Musk today. Only Cabinet minister seemingly willing to do so. Wes Streeting is a 100%, bought and paid for asset of Blair.

Add the fact that Mandleson has been appointed Ambassador to the US and this all starts to stink of a possible attempted coup against Starmer directed more from London more than Washington. Just going the long-way around this time with Washington happy to play ball in exchange for whatever Mandleson has been selling them.

Does this all sound rather tin-foil hatted? Possibly.

Streeting as PM by summer. Starmer survives what is going to come his way over the course of the next 6 weeks, which is going to be bloody messy but come the local elections in May....
 
I agree and ask in whose interests is a tinderbox going off again? It’s easy when you are 5000 miles away on the other side of the Atlantic.
I don’t think it’s in anyone’s interests.

Musk just enjoys stirring up shite because he can. I don’t think there are any calculated outcomes in mind. Like Trump he jumps into issues that are popular with in the media he reads. Trump just says whatever his audience wants to hear.

Badenoch joins in because she needs to divert the debate around her.

The right wing media blow it up as they know it’s a popular anger trigger.

The useful idiots that get wound up by it then amplify the noise in places like this.

No one benefits, other than the press barons.
 
I don’t think it’s in anyone’s interests.

Musk just enjoys stirring up shite because he can. I don’t think there are any calculated outcomes in mind. Like Trump he jumps into issues that are popular with in the media he reads. Trump just says whatever his audience wants to hear.

Badenoch joins in because she needs to divert the debate around her.

The right wing media blow it up as they know it’s a popular anger trigger.

The useful idiots that get wound up by it then amplify the noise in places like this.

No one benefits, other than the press barons.
At least the Trump siren has gone off. No subject is far enough removed for him not to get a mention.
 
I don’t think it’s in anyone’s interests.

Musk just enjoys stirring up shite because he can. I don’t think there are any calculated outcomes in mind. Like Trump he jumps into issues that are popular with in the media he reads. Trump just says whatever his audience wants to hear.

Badenoch joins in because she needs to divert the debate around her.

The right wing media blow it up as they know it’s a popular anger trigger.

The useful idiots that get wound up by it then amplify the noise in places like this.

No one benefits, other than the press barons.
And Asian gang rapists !
 
I don’t think it’s in anyone’s interests.

Musk just enjoys stirring up shite because he can. I don’t think there are any calculated outcomes in mind. Like Trump he jumps into issues that are popular with in the media he reads. Trump just says whatever his audience wants to hear.

Badenoch joins in because she needs to divert the debate around her.

The right wing media blow it up as they know it’s a popular anger trigger.

The useful idiots that get wound up by it then amplify the noise in places like this.

No one benefits, other than the press barons.
So which posters who are calling this out for what it is, do you consider to be useful idiots, amplifying the noises in here? Please do tell
 
So the mass rape of children was not a priority. It is truly sickening, though unsurprising, that the shoulder-shrugging Left tolerates it. As with the terrorist apologists, anything rather than tarnish their multi-cultural delusions.
Typical misinformed emotional nonsense from you.

To suggest this was somehow the fault of the “left” is just ridiculous.

This was an issue that was poorly understood and not given the attention it deserved at first. That wasn’t deliberate. Combined with a lack of resources in the areas it happened in together with a lack of cooperation from a suspicious local population the police faced problems, which were compounded by decisions now seen to be mistakes.

Nobody is apologising for rapists, or terrorists. Every criminal needs to be detected and others deterred from imitating them. The only questions are how best to achieve that. Not if we must.
 
So which posters who are calling this out for what it is, do you consider to be useful idiots, amplifying the noises in here? Please do tell
Naming names is inappropriate.

Suffice to say anyone who jumps on a bandwagon that has been allowed to be parked for a while whilst the forces of law and order quietly do their jobs, albeit slowly due to the mountains they need to scale to bring about justice, are not serving the needs of either the victims or protecting others.

You can decide for yourself who fits that category.
 
Watch the interview with female Police Officer who was involved with this. It makes harrowing listening. No reason for her not to be truthful, it was swept under the carpet
I listened to some of it but Maggie Oliver’s contribution to this is well known and not new. She is a brave, honest and caring lady who observed things she knew were wrong and spoke out. Her contribution was partly responsible for the provision of greater resources which she herself acknowledges was a significant problem, alongside the directive from the centre to tackle things quietly.

Alongside the other stuff pulling Maggie Oliver back onto centre stage, when things have moved on from her putting the issue in the spotlight, raises the question of why now?

It’s not an accident. Someone is stirring a pot. It has little or nothing to do with any genuine concerns about the victims.
 
Typical misinformed emotional nonsense from you.

To suggest this was somehow the fault of the “left” is just ridiculous.

This was an issue that was poorly understood and not given the attention it deserved at first. That wasn’t deliberate. Combined with a lack of resources in the areas it happened in together with a lack of cooperation from a suspicious local population the police faced problems, which were compounded by decisions now seen to be mistakes.

Nobody is apologising for rapists, or terrorists. Every criminal needs to be detected and others deterred from imitating them. The only questions are how best to achieve that. Not if we must.
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