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Grooming gangs

Wisbech Eagle said:
I accept what you say, as it’s said from experience. The fact remains that without sight we don’t know. That said we know there was a different attitude back then and every department is indeed staffed by individuals, some of whom are capable of writing inappropriate circulars. So it could be true.

Dragging it up is though exactly what has been done. This is very obviously something Badenoch has done now to change the focus away from the spat on the comparative membership between the Tories and Reform.

If not, why now?
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The victims don't have to drag anything up. It's a constant in their lives.
 
Badger11 said:
Labour refuse to hold a national inquiry, I wonder why?

Could it be that most of the councils where this happened were labour led as were the politicians who obfuscated.

I don't doubt that there are guilty Tories as well but I suspect the majority were on the left.

Time to shine a light on this dark episode.
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Labour have a myriad of reasons to not want this becoming news again.

But why now? Why are we getting all of this coming back to the fore at this precise moment in time?

This is what intrigues me the most. Do I want heads to literally roll? Absolutely. Along with the bigger questions around why our Establishment chose to champion, not only then but still to this day, the importation of inbred mutants. For me, the far more worrying long-term question that rarely see's the light of day.

But why Musk? Why US politicians getting involved? Why the comments about freeing Tommy Robinson? From such prominent people?

Suspect we are all being played on this one at the moment. Just puzzled as to the why. Why are the coals not only being raked over but fanned?
 
Spiderman said:
But they were ignored
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Were they, or is that just how the right wing press seek to present it?

Some policing is necessarily done quietly. Some policing is impacted by a lack of resources. Neither mean it’s ignored. When you face boundless demands with limited resources whatever decisions you make will attract criticism from somewhere.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Were they, or is that just how the right wing press seek to present it?

Some policing is necessarily done quietly. Some policing is impacted by a lack of resources. Neither mean it’s ignored. When you face boundless demands with limited resources whatever decisions you make will attract criticism from somewhere.
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Not according to the report which explicitly contradicts this view. Or the BBC article on the report(s).
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Were they, or is that just how the right wing press seek to present it?

Some policing is necessarily done quietly. Some policing is impacted by a lack of resources. Neither mean it’s ignored. When you face boundless demands with limited resources whatever decisions you make will attract criticism from somewhere.
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Watch the interview with female Police Officer who was involved with this. It makes harrowing listening. No reason for her not to be truthful, it was swept under the carpet
 
Badger11 said:
Labour refuse to hold a national inquiry, I wonder why?

Could it be that most of the councils where this happened were labour led as were the politicians who obfuscated.

I don't doubt that there are guilty Tories as well but I suspect the majority were on the left.

Time to shine a light on this dark episode.
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Starmer was DPP
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They aren’t. Badenoch is.
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Just heard a victim who suffered 10 years abuse at the hands of a Pakistani grooming gang.

She was on Talk radio and she spoke very well and also said how no one was persecuted for the abuse she suffered.

I think it is disgusting how you can turn this into a right v left, or 'it's Badenoch stirring things up now' comment.
This is a national disgrace that those of all parties and the police should be hanging their heads in shame over.

The abuse that these young girls suffered/are still suffering is horendous and they deserve at the least an official enquiry which should lead to justice for them and how this can be stopped from happening again!!
 
Badger11 said:
True but of course if the local police don't investigate because the local politicians put pressure on them not to "stir up" the locals then it would not come across his desk.

As DPP he was responsible for the stuff that arrived. That is where I hold him accountable.
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If you really dig int this, then it goes way beyond politicians simply not wanting to 'stir up' local tensions. Active collusion going on in many cases, with the links between local Labour politicians (oddly enough some of their Westminster MP's actually much better on this than people might believe. Sarah Champion is a great example), the grooming gangs and wider criminality, including drugs and carousel fraud, rife. I can recollect in one of the reports, it stated that supposedly secure safes in Town Halls, were being accessed and documents removed. This is the real cover-up.

And this all goes WAY beyond just people thinking it impolite to comment or fears of being labelled racist. This is corruption of the most venal kind, that still plays out today. Literally numerous 'Rotten Boroughs', in every sense of the term, up and down the country.

We need a special kind of rain to cleanse this country.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Were they, or is that just how the right wing press seek to present it?

Some policing is necessarily done quietly. Some policing is impacted by a lack of resources. Neither mean it’s ignored. When you face boundless demands with limited resources whatever decisions you make will attract criticism from somewhere.
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So the mass rape of children was not a priority. It is truly sickening, though unsurprising, that the shoulder-shrugging Left tolerates it. As with the terrorist apologists, anything rather than tarnish their multi-cultural delusions.
 
Matov said:
If you really dig int this, then it goes way beyond politicians simply not wanting to 'stir up' local tensions. Active collusion going on in many cases, with the links between local Labour politicians (oddly enough some of their Westminster MP's actually much better on this than people might believe. Sarah Champion is a great example), the grooming gangs and wider criminality, including drugs and carousel fraud, rife. I can recollect in one of the reports, it stated that supposedly secure safes in Town Halls, were being accessed and documents removed. This is the real cover-up.

And this all goes WAY beyond just people thinking it impolite to comment or fears of being labelled racist. This is corruption of the most venal kind, that still plays out today. Literally numerous 'Rotten Boroughs', in every sense of the term, up and down the country.

We need a special kind of rain to cleanse this country.
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We need a double like button for this post.

It should be on a label and stuck on every Labour politician, councilor and activist involved in this......and most Tories who bent the knee on this issue as well.
 
Spiderman said:
Starmer was DPP
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The most damning of all is that Brown and Smith during this period communicated to the Police that they shouldn't get involved. Without that backing the Police looked after their mortgage, because essentially they are lackeys for whatever the state wants and always have been.

A lot of arse covering and protection of those who could have cracked down on this decades ago has been part of the rot of the British establishment for said decades.

Until establishment figures face consequences there will be no justice.

But Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

But in my estimation, at some point this will be coming....the left are losing credibility (or should I say social/neo liberalism in general) and strength all over Europe, and they are too incompetent to solve anything major and thus do anything about it.....other than be more authoritarian.
 
eritheagle said:
Just heard a victim who suffered 10 years abuse at the hands of a Pakistani grooming gang.

She was on Talk radio and she spoke very well and also said how no one was persecuted for the abuse she suffered.

I think it is disgusting how you can turn this into a right v left, or 'it's Badenoch stirring things up now' comment.
This is a national disgrace that those of all parties and the police should be hanging their heads in shame over.

The abuse that these young girls suffered/are still suffering is horendous and they deserve at the least an official enquiry which should lead to justice for them and how this can be stopped from happening again!!
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The Tories are less complicit, but they are still guilty of inaction and allowing the civil service to bully them into said inaction.

Labour are deep deeply involved in why this was able to happen in the first place.

It's less right v left and more an establishment problem.

Our elites are completely out of touch boomers living in their own privileged bubble and echo chambers terrified of being called racist and putting their heads over the parapet. Indeed, they are more likely to be the one calling someone with valid concerns racist than doing anything about stopping child abuse.

I've said it many times.....low quality elites.....get all of the same benefits as previous generations but are bad at their jobs.
 
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