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EZE

I seen a stat that Eze made the most chances in the premier league this weekend joint 5 with Elanga.
Blind belief can be comforting, but it can easily cripple reason and productivity, and stop intellectual progress, people see effort above class, even a blind squirrel will find a acorn one day
 
We lack a creative midfielder - as energetic as Hughes and Lerma can be, neither has the ability to play that killer pass that opens up defences. It's all a matter of balance I guess.
That's why we bought Adam Wharton - and his absence makes all the difference. When he returns, fully fit, we will notice a revitalised Eze and more goals from Mateta.
 
That's why we bought Adam Wharton - and his absence makes all the difference. When he returns, fully fit, we will notice a revitalised Eze and more goals from Mateta.
To be honest I think it is an ‘if’ we see him return fully fit rather than a ‘when’. I would be very surprised if we see him back firing on all cylinders at any point this season. Hopefully he doesn’t end up like Doucoure who is a shadow of what he was pre injury.
 
Blind belief can be comforting, but it can easily cripple reason and productivity, and stop intellectual progress, people see effort above class, even a blind squirrel will find a acorn one day
If there's anyone guilty of blind belief on this thread, it's the people continuing to defend Eze's performances despite what we can all see.

The fact he created 5 chances in a game doesn't change that - that's not even a particularly impressive tally for a set-piece taker, and certainly doesn't change my view that he was poor yet again yesterday.
 
We lack a creative midfielder - as energetic as Hughes and Lerma can be, neither has the ability to play that killer pass that opens up defences. It's all a matter of balance I guess.
We only play with two midfielders. Throw a creative one in there and that leaves just one player to break up play in the middle of the park, it just wouldn’t work unless your creative player gets stuck in too. There ain’t too many of them about as we all too well know in Wharton’s absence.

Whilst Wharton is out I’m sure a 4-3-3 would work better for us and would allow Eze to play in central midfield where he should be more effective, or if attacking mid is Kamada’s best position then let’s see him there linking up play with our front 3.

Our insistence on a 3 CH, 2 central midfield has in my opinion cost us a lot of points this season.
 
We only play with two midfielders. Throw a creative one in there and that leaves just one player to break up play in the middle of the park, it just wouldn’t work unless your creative player gets stuck in too. There ain’t too many of them about as we all too well know in Wharton’s absence.

Whilst Wharton is out I’m sure a 4-3-3 would work better for us and would allow Eze to play in central midfield where he should be more effective, or if attacking mid is Kamada’s best position then let’s see him there linking up play with our front 3.

Our insistence on a 3 CH, 2 central midfield has in my opinion cost us a lot of points this season.
If / when Wharton regains full fitness he will surely return to the team - what formation then? Glasner's only pairing Hughes and Lerma because he doesn't have other options (unless Doucoure returns to anything like his previous form, which I doubt).
 
If / when Wharton regains full fitness he will surely return to the team - what formation then? Glasner's only pairing Hughes and Lerma because he doesn't have other options (unless Doucoure returns to anything like his previous form, which I doubt).
Yes, my point is that I agree we need a creative midfielder but unless we have Wharton playing we do not have a player who can both break up play and spray the ball around. We have plenty who can do one but not the other.

So, to answer your question, Wharton makes Glasner’s style tick so I have no issue with his set up when Wharton is playing.

I would still like to see in-game set up changes fairly early if our middle two are getting overrun however, which has happened a few times this season.
 
If there's anyone guilty of blind belief on this thread, it's the people continuing to defend Eze's performances despite what we can all see.

The fact he created 5 chances in a game doesn't change that - that's not even a particularly impressive tally for a set-piece taker, and certainly doesn't change my view that he was poor yet again yesterday.

Spot on about the blind belief, Lanzo says people put effort over class, well are we supposed to put up with a lazy player not giving his all just because he shows a flash of brilliance once every blue moon? Maybe if the goals and the quality we’ve seen was a bit more regular we could indulge a player not giving 100% and not putting himself about trying to make something happen, but clearly he’s coasting through games at the moment
 
I think we are in a cycle with Eze.

Squad lacks strength in depth.

We do not possess an alternative to him at the moment - hopefully Esse will develop into either that or an additional ball player that will relieve the creative burden.

Eze may well feel then that his place is not at risk and therefore hasnt got to worry too much on that front. So his lacklustre performances continue because we can’t drop him and he knows it.

He’s starting to remind me of the latter day Jason Puncheon in so much that he slows down when in possession and we lose momentum.
 
There does look to be some underlying issues with Eze this season. He flourished towards the end of last season playing in OG’s preferred system. Villa a prime example of gliding past players and burying his goal attempts. So, I feel it is less about the system and more the player himself.

He was quick of thought but now ponderous with the ball.
He took on multiple players at pace and now only has thoughts to slow play down and move the ball backwards.
His shooting was crisp and accurate now weak and the off target.

He is so poor in the tackle that there are only 2 slots on the field he can genuinely play. He is in the right position but somehow needs to rediscover his mojo! My preferred option is to play through the poor form as he does possess unique qualities, we need in the team.
 
Spot on about the blind belief, Lanzo says people put effort over class, well are we supposed to put up with a lazy player not giving his all just because he shows a flash of brilliance once every blue moon? Maybe if the goals and the quality we’ve seen was a bit more regular we could indulge a player not giving 100% and not putting himself about trying to make something happen, but clearly he’s coasting through games at the moment
I don’t think he’s lazy. Just out of form. Lazy would be a player who didn’t care and wasn’t doing the off the ball work. Eze is doing the off the ball work, closing down etc. Eze is doing all of those things. If he was being lazy there is no way OG would pick him as he’s shown zero tolerance for that.
 
To be honest I think it is an ‘if’ we see him return fully fit rather than a ‘when’. I would be very surprised if we see him back firing on all cylinders at any point this season. Hopefully he doesn’t end up like Doucoure who is a shadow of what he was pre injury.
I share this concern with you. Groin injury surgery could relate to a multitude of different things. As I understand it, it is a very complex area which so far still appears to be keeping Wharton out. In other words, he hasnt fully recovered. I am seriously hoping he does get 100% relief and a return to the player he was last season. But looks like you say we are in for the long haul.
Doucoure with the achilles injury is clearly not back to anywhere near where he left off. He seemed well on the way to recovery at Villa, but since then has noticeably declined.
Maybe his current knee injury will help give him time to heal up all over.
Losing these two for so long is a major blow to our squad numbers.
 
I know everyone takes something different from watching the same game.

But yesterday Eze slowed two counterattacks to walking pace, much to the annoyance of everyone around me. Just so hard to understand the apparent lack of dynamism.
Posted this on sub-Reddit a few weeks back, he doesn't seem to take on players as he was last season. A few times he'll slow down the counter, lay it back to the defender and then push forwards. At one point yesterday, the crowd got on his back as he pushed forwards, he stopped and looked to be signalling to Mitchell to calm down
 
We lack a creative midfielder - as energetic as Hughes and Lerma can be, neither has the ability to play that killer pass that opens up defences. It's all a matter of balance I guess.
His name is Wharton. Trouble is a club with our financial limitations cannot afford another with him due to come back sooner rather than later… we hope
 
Which is the better team, A or B, Wharton in when fit, ignore who is manger, which team is better
A
------------Henderson------------
Muñoz--Lacroix--Guehi--Mitchell
---------Hughes-Lerma----------
Esse----------Eze------------Sarr
-------------Mateta---------------
B
-------- --Hendersen-------------
--Richards-Lacroix-Guehi--------
Muñoz--Hughes-Lerma--Mitchell
--------Sarr--------Eze-----------
-------------Mateta---------------
B has stood us in good stead so B for me and be prepared to switch to A if required. Might play Esse in place of Eze on occasion .
 
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His name is Wharton. Trouble is a club with our financial limitations cannot afford another with him due to come back sooner rather than later… we hope
Yes indeed. And had he nor Doucoure got the lengthy injuries they did, then they would more than likely have been the first choice pairing. We can but hope for full recoveries.
 

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