Main Stand redevelopment thread

[crystal-purley]

Not including new hospitality suites, £200,000,000 for an extra 8000 seats equates to £25,000 per seat, which is insanely expensive!

The Hill Dickinson (which is supposedly a state-of-the-art 50000 seater) cost the equivalent of £15,000 per seat, if reports of a £750,000,000 build cost are accurate. Being built on the waterfront would have no doubt increased the costs significantly.

Taking into account the above, £600,000,000 doesn't seem unreasonable to be able to build a 50000 seater, even when considering the higher land cost in south London compared to Liverpool.

Of course, it's not my money, but at £12,000 per seat for a brand new stadium for the future, it has to be a no-brainer!

 

[crystal-purley]

I am in favour of prepaying for the seat but this takes away the ticket money for the future and reducing the amppont neglicates it. I am in favour of filling in the corners but how much that would increase the seating as there must be use for these. I would be in favour of refiguring the Old stand plans but how much that would help in the future and if the numbers are still coming in the future (I have been coming forty plus years and I am not sure for how the next few years).

 

[Painter]

Steve Parish was on Talksport this morning, an interesting interview. On the main stand, work is still continuing and the construction has had to be changed from concrete to steel, which has caused a bit of a delay and its cheaper. Whilst work is going on internally unseen by fans, in January visible signs of construction will be seen by fans outside. He stated that Woody has been a great help driving on main stand and it will happen.
They did look at possibly moving to Crystal Palace Park, but obtaining planning permission would of 10 plus years at least with a number of councils involved as its an apex where 5 councils meet all have a different view on access and transport.

 

[Spiderman]

Steve Parish was on Talksport this morning, an interesting interview. On the main stand, work is still continuing and the construction has had to be changed from concrete to steel, which has caused a bit of a delay and its cheaper. Whilst work is going on internally unseen by fans, in January visible signs of construction will be seen by fans outside. He stated that Woody has been a great help driving on main stand and it will happen.
They did look at possibly moving to Crystal Palace Park, but obtaining planning permission would of 10 plus years at least with a number of councils involved as its an apex where 5 councils meet all have a different view on access and transport.

About the same time as this has taken then!

 

[Painter]

About the same time as this has taken then!

There was no guarantee planning would be obtained at all, building on an existing development was the easier route, thats easier not easy.

 

[est1905]

So what is the actual plan now regards the main structural work? Are they still building up and over the existing stand? Or have they now decided to just demolish the old stand?
Surely demolishing the stand would require a complete resubmission of planning applications?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Steve Parish was on Talksport this morning, an interesting interview. On the main stand, work is still continuing and the construction has had to be changed from concrete to steel, which has caused a bit of a delay and its cheaper. Whilst work is going on internally unseen by fans, in January visible signs of construction will be seen by fans outside. He stated that Woody has been a great help driving on main stand and it will happen.
They did look at possibly moving to Crystal Palace Park, but obtaining planning permission would of 10 plus years at least with a number of councils involved as its an apex where 5 councils meet all have a different view on access and transport.

Steel is cheaper than concrete? News to me. Presumably it will be a quicker build.

I hope they explored other sites besides CPP before they decided to stay at Selhurst Park.

 

[mtp1958]

Steel is cheaper than concrete? News to me. Presumably it will be a quicker build.

I hope they explored other sites besides CCP before they decided to stay at Selhurst Park.

A steel is cheaper than a concrete lintel and stronger and wear longer , wound say nearly double the price . and transport costs wound be lower

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

A steel is cheaper than a concrete lintel and stronger and wear longer , wound say nearly double the price . and transport costs wound be lower

Fair enough.

You have to assume they have done their homework.

 

[mtp1958]

Fair enough.

You have to assume they have done their homework.

you would hope so , glad Woody is driving it , as he has done this before

 

[Spiderman]

A steel is cheaper than a concrete lintel and stronger and wear longer , wound say nearly double the price . and transport costs wound be lower

So why not go for steel from the get go?

 

[ASCPFC]

So why not go for steel from the get go?

Sky hooks with a steel canopy held in place by a long weight were considered the best option originally. Parish sent Brighty to B & Q to get them.

 

[rikz]

Lets face it, If Parish was worth 10 billion the stand would be built already, not sure about Woody yet but the other 2 Americans are only invested in our club for their own personal reputation, they were linked with both Chelsea and utd takeovers and dont want to put any significant money into the club.

 

[dreamwaverider]

Steel is cheaper than concrete? News to me. Presumably it will be a quicker build.

I hope they explored other sites besides CCP before they decided to stay at Selhurst Park.

I know they did a full appraisal of CPNP. it was about 15 years ago. Still on the internet somewhere. It didn’t receive local support. But times were different then. Shame we never revisited it. But at least we are on it now at Selhurst.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I know they did a full appraisal of CPNP. it was about 15 years ago. Still on the internet somewhere. It didn’t receive local support. But times were different then. Shame we never revisited it. But at least we are on it now at Selhurst.

Money talks.

I think we need to get something up and running soon as possible, so the new stand should be built.
Meanwhile, we should be planning our next move, whether that is further development of Selhurst or relocation.
The Whitehorse is embarrassingly small and the Arthur Wait is a cow shed.

 

[Runningman]

Sky hooks with a steel canopy held in place by a long weight were considered the best option originally. Parish sent Brighty to B & Q to get them.

Did he buy any blue and red striped paint whilst he was there ?

 

[Painter]

Fair enough.

You have to assume they have done their homework.

Listen from 8 minutes and hear what he has to say.

 

[johnny the eagle]

Yeah, all very well and good, but adding 8 thousand bums on seats for the outlay expected now does not make any financial sense whatsoever. That stadium of ours will not be big enough anyway, we need well, well above 34 thousand capacity, more like 50 thousand, especially if you are spending the megabucks that is being quoted and is doing the rounds now.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Yeah, all very well and good, but adding 8 thousand bums on seats for the outlay expected now does not make any financial sense whatsoever. That stadium of ours will not be big enough anyway, we need well, well above 34 thousand capacity, more like 50 thousand, especially if you are spending the megabucks that is being quoted and is doing the rounds now.

34k would put us 13th in the current Premier League capacity table. Given who those 12 higher clubs are, that isn't anything to be ashamed of.

 

[Ex Dubai Eagle]

34k would put us 13th in the current Premier League capacity table. Given who those 12 higher clubs are, that isn't anything to be ashamed of.

I seem to remember the full planned redevelopment of SP would take us to 40,000 (ish) the upgrade of the main stand to 34,000 is phase 1 - now obvs the time its taking to make phase 1 a reality many on here will say we will never progress beyond it.