Eaglehamster
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- Location
- Storrington
- Country
England
I wonder what sort of "settlement" is likely when Ukraine is excluded from the talks?I'm impressed that Trump's working towards a settlement, yes....Do I think he succeeds? I hope so but I doubt it in the short term.
All this hard man posturing with Putin is only resulting in Ukraine losing more territory by the day. What exactly are you expecting to change in Ukraine by constantly virtue signalling about evil Russians. As stated previously if you can't stand them go fight them.
You seem to believe everything which the establishment tells you, when if you thought more critically you'd perhaps realise that they only tell you one side of the story.....there are lies on both sides.
I say to you why should I care if Putin wins this war? What difference does that make? Even if I cared either way anyone with more than two brain cells would understand what the real cost would be to win this war.....How would you justify our involvement to the families of our dead soldiers families.....Fighting for slavs in a war that gains them nothing.
You call it 'Putin's invasion' and yes unfortunately he invaded. However, why did the CIA spend 5 billion in 2014 helping overturn Ukraine's democratically elected government? (that's hypothetical we know why they did) That was always going to lead to conflict in Ukraine as the east of the country are Ukrainians but are also largely ethnic Russians. There's this make believe that Zelensky represented all of Ukraine when the reality is he represented the western and central parts. The units that started the civil war in 2014 were Ukrainian units, not Russian ones.
No one actually wanted war and Putin warned about these western interventions many years before an invasion.....Yet you present things like everything started in 2022, which is exactly how it's presented in the media.
Why is there this assumption that my country should be intervening around the world? We don't have the military, we don't have the money nor do we have the full story due to one way narratives.
I say to you why should I care if Putin wins this war? What difference does that make?
What difference did it make when Germany invaded Poland?
If the CIA played a part in overturning a democratically (really?) elected government, you might want to consider Moscow's involvement in selecting the governments of several other former Soviet satellite states?
The seemingly easy option is to let Putin get his own way, I agree, but what will that mean for the medium and longer term for all Europe not just Ukraine?