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The new government – good accomplishments and bad?

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Wisbech Eagle said:
How people behave at home is a completely separate problem. One that is much more difficult to influence let alone control.

Pricing it so highly it becomes unaffordable seems to be gradually working. Alongside education and social pressures. The key though is to stop the young people starting. Banning it everywhere that they could be persuaded to start makes sense to me.

To my shame both my daughters smoke. They started in a pub. It was banned at home. Now they go outside, even on the coldest winters day, and have cut right down because of the cost. None of my grandchildren smoke.
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How embarrassing. Good grief.
 
Socialists love nothing better than power and killing fun. They don't want freedom for the individual.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
You just know the snitchers in society will love this, just like Covid. They’ll phone up the local council to report someone standing outside a pub having a smoke, feeling morally superior once again.
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Being morally superior means you can achieve status without being intelligent or productive.
 
It's completely dishonest of the dwindling band of happy loser tories to claim that Starmer is disrespecting Thatcher by removing her picture.

In fact he is recognising her privatisation of the water industry.

Her portrait now hangs in the lavatory.

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The time I really detest the man is when he’s speaking to the nation on tv and he puts on his act during a moment showing compassion, trying to make it look like he might just shed a tear. He’s no better than Keanu Reeves as an actor.
 
steeleye20 said:
It's completely dishonest of the dwindling band of happy loser tories to claim that Starmer is disrespecting Thatcher by removing her picture.

In fact he is recognising her privatisation of the water industry.

Her portrait now hangs in the lavatory.

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Tres droll.

But the wider picture. Starmer again doing something with seemingly no other motive other than pissing off a specific segment of the population. This fucker is ramping up the division of our society on almost a daily basis.

Some heavy s*** coming down the line, sooner rather than later. Because this makes little rational political sense.
 
Matov said:
Tres droll.

But the wider picture. Starmer again doing something with seemingly no other motive other than pissing off a specific segment of the population. This fucker is ramping up the division of our society on almost a daily basis.

Some heavy s*** coming down the line, sooner rather than later. Because this makes little rational political sense.
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From my view I can only see this budget being an absolute killer.
I reckon the 25% free pension withdrawal will go or raise to a much higher age.
Tax and NI to rise.
Petrol diesel fags and alcohol up
Green tax on gas or solid fuel etc etc.
He clearly thinks with jail time he’s given will prevent protest against this and the prison places being made available are another threat.
This fucker really wants us the white indigenous population to either die or f*** off and shut up.
He’s a c*** of the highest order and I truly hate him and would not even pray for his soul if he copped it the wanker.
There is a lot more much deeper for sure that him and his commie buddies are going to unleash.
 
cryrst said:
From my view I can only see this budget being an absolute killer.
I reckon the 25% free pension withdrawal will go or raise to a much higher age.
Tax and NI to rise.
Petrol diesel fags and alcohol up
Green tax on gas or solid fuel etc etc.
He clearly thinks with jail time he’s given will prevent protest against this and the prison places being made available are another threat.
This fucker really wants us the white indigenous population to either die or f*** off and shut up.
He’s a c*** of the highest order and I truly hate him and would not even pray for his soul if he copped it the wanker.
There is a lot more much deeper for sure that him and his commie buddies are going to unleash.
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It has already been clearly stated that neither income tax nor NI rates will increase.

That though doesn’t preclude the levels at which the rates kick in either remaining unchanged or even be reduced, thus raising more tax via fiscal drag.

There will surely be increases on drink, tobacco and fuel duty. Money needs to be raised.

There was always going to be a need to either raise more, or reduce services, whoever won. The black hole in the public finances was very obvious. Why you think this will only impact the “white indigenous” population beats me. It will affect everyone.

Stopping people being stupid and thinking that rioting can produce a money tree seems pretty sensible to me.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It has already been clearly stated that neither income tax nor NI rates will increase.

That though doesn’t preclude the levels at which the rates kick in either remaining unchanged or even be reduced, thus raising more tax via fiscal drag.

There will surely be increases on drink, tobacco and fuel duty. Money needs to be raised.

There was always going to be a need to either raise more, or reduce services, whoever won. The black hole in the public finances was very obvious. Why you think this will only impact the “white indigenous” population beats me. It will affect everyone.

Stopping people being stupid and thinking that rioting can produce a money tree seems pretty sensible to me.
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so unjust ‘taxes’ or removal of certain ‘benefits’ is no excuse for the public to be rightly pissed off. Is that what you hint at.
The white bit is a generalisation but bearing in mind most of the uk is white and according to 2TK; far right I think the cap fits. Not once has he mentioned the elephant in the room which imo says that he has an agenda, an agenda which means we can all get stuffed unless you are a certain type.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It has already been clearly stated that neither income tax nor NI rates will increase.

That though doesn’t preclude the levels at which the rates kick in either remaining unchanged or even be reduced, thus raising more tax via fiscal drag.

There will surely be increases on drink, tobacco and fuel duty. Money needs to be raised.

There was always going to be a need to either raise more, or reduce services, whoever won. The black hole in the public finances was very obvious. Why you think this will only impact the “white indigenous” population beats me. It will affect everyone.

Stopping people being stupid and thinking that rioting can produce a money tree seems pretty sensible to me.
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Or the government needs to stop squandering taxpayer's money - like overseas aid to nations with ambitious space programmes, or billions in armaments for wars that are no concern of ours, vanity rail building programmes etc., etc., etc.
 
cryrst said:
so unjust ‘taxes’ or removal of certain ‘benefits’ is no excuse for the public to be rightly pissed off. Is that what you hint at.
The white bit is a generalisation but bearing in mind most of the uk is white and according to 2TK; far right I think the cap fits. Not once has he mentioned the elephant in the room which imo says that he has an agenda, an agenda which means we can all get stuffed unless you are a certain type.
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We are all likely to be “pissed off”! Everyone benefits when the economy is doing well, but suffers when it isn’t.

It’s not our job to decide what is “unjust”. It’s our government’s job to balance the books and decide how to do that.

Your own bias shines through your post as it does that of others here. No one escapes, or pays, taxes because they belong to an ethnic group. They do so on income.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
If that’s the only quality you possess, perhaps.

If it is added to other qualities then it becomes the key to a society with standards that enable decency and fairness to flourish.
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Decency and fairness? The context was smoking in the street not life under a repressive regime.
 
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