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Starmer's big secret?

If there is anything to see here at all unless it's illegal he won't budge from office. Massive hypocrisy and barefaced lying to the public is water off a duck's back for him.
 
HKOwen said:
It's risible that Labour fans will make comparisons with Boris after all the talk around change, different etc. If the yard stick is the previous flawed govt then shame on Labour
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I am not a Labour fan actually and I was merely pointing out that it is alleged a previous leader also used a legal means to block information being released.

And any government will be compared to it's predecessors.

I would also suggest some of the people in the press who are promoting this alleged story are probably the very ones who were supporting Johnson and saw it as a travesty that he felt he had to resign.
 
NMPalace said:
for balance the pension went up by £900 in April and fuel prices are lower than they were this time last year.
The winter fuel payment is £200 for under 75s and £300 for over 75s. Hardly a king's ransom.
It isn't a great policy and will save little money but currently every pensioner gets it, even if they live aboard. Supposedly 27% of pensioners live in a household with assets (including their house) of £1m plus.

Also supposedly c4k pension excess deaths are reported every winter. Where was your outrage last year, or the year before?
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www.bbc.co.uk

Energy price cap: People urged to read meter as bills rise

A 10% energy price rise has taken effect, meaning annual bills will be £1,717 on average.
www.bbc.co.uk

"A household in England, Wales and Scotland using a typical amount of gas and electricity will now pay £1,717 a year, a 10% rise to the annual bill of £149."

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) defines fuel poverty as when a household's fuel costs are more than 10% of their adjusted net income after housing costs.

The full new state pension rose from £203.85 a week to £221.20 a week, or £11,502 a year.

Fuel prices low in the Summer rising in the Winter who would have thought it.
 
orpingtoneagle said:
I am not a Labour fan actually and I was merely pointing out that it is alleged a previous leader also used a legal means to block information being released.

And any government will be compared to it's predecessors.

I would also suggest some of the people in the press who are promoting this alleged story are probably the very ones who were supporting Johnson and saw it as a travesty that he felt he had to resign.
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In Opposition all the fake moral high ground and now in Govt thjey think it's their turn. Comparison is not the issue, measurement is. As far as I can see the standard retort now is that the previous Govt did similar.

If Starmer has a massive embarrasing secret that would be pont passingly funny for me.

So far I am still interested to listen to Wes Streeting, I hope he can be allowed to improve delivery, I like his point abouit being paid for result not just effort.
 
Apollofuzz said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Energy price cap: People urged to read meter as bills rise

A 10% energy price rise has taken effect, meaning annual bills will be £1,717 on average.
www.bbc.co.uk

"A household in England, Wales and Scotland using a typical amount of gas and electricity will now pay £1,717 a year, a 10% rise to the annual bill of £149."

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) defines fuel poverty as when a household's fuel costs are more than 10% of their adjusted net income after housing costs.

The full new state pension rose from £203.85 a week to £221.20 a week, or £11,502 a year.

Fuel prices low in the Summer rising in the Winter who would have thought it.
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So what you are saying is that these people have actually been in fuel poverty long before the £300 was removed.

The £300 that was not necessarily even spent on energy as it was not directly set against fuel costs at all?

And for transparency I did not support either the £300 bunce paid to everyone as it was just that here is £300 - if it was for fuel it should have been a voucher redeemable on fuel, not it's artbitary removal they are both dodgy.
 
None of this rumour stuff is especially significant for me. What grieves me is that never before has the world of politics been exposed quite as clearly for the self serving substandard cesspit that it really is.

One could argue that telling lies is the only way to get elected. The naivety of the general public certainly invites that reality.
What we really need are people who actually want to make this country a better place to live above all else.
Of course there are compromises and the need to look after one's self, but there has to be more accountability, and quality within Parliament. There are too many careerists, incompetents and ideologues making big decisions that affect us all.

We will never stop politicians lying to get votes, but we should judge them by their achievements.

What will this lot achieve that makes Britain better?
 
As a matter of interest does Starmer have to pay tax on these gifts as he is claiming that they were received in the line of business and any other employee would have to declare gifts on their P11D and pay tax on them
 
Midlands Eagle said:
As a matter of interest does Starmer have to pay tax on these gifts as he is claiming that they were received in the line of business and any other employee would have to declare gifts on their P11D and pay tax on them
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it's been widely reported that he payed a lower percentage of tax on his earnings then he should have anyway!
 
Apollofuzz said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Energy price cap: People urged to read meter as bills rise

A 10% energy price rise has taken effect, meaning annual bills will be £1,717 on average.
www.bbc.co.uk

"A household in England, Wales and Scotland using a typical amount of gas and electricity will now pay £1,717 a year, a 10% rise to the annual bill of £149."

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) defines fuel poverty as when a household's fuel costs are more than 10% of their adjusted net income after housing costs.

The full new state pension rose from £203.85 a week to £221.20 a week, or £11,502 a year.

Fuel prices low in the Summer rising in the Winter who would have thought it.
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not sure what you point is but you are showing that the state pension has risen by over £900 pa.

Without a shadow of doubt there are some people in fuel poverty, many of those won't be pensioners. The lowest earning pensioners will still get the winter fuel payment so it is mean tested to an extent now. The ones who will suffer will be those just above the pension credit threshold. There are c1m to 2m in this bracket - the 10m quoted is all pensioners, many of whom are well off.

It is not a great policy and will save a limited amount, however, there is some logic for it e.g. it was introduced by Gordon Brown at a time when the triple lock didn't exist.

In winter my fuel costs are well in excess of £300 and i take home less than £3k - so officially i'm in fuel poverty?
 
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