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Sentences too harsh!

Not sure what one can say! This seems to the norm now, hurty words towards immigrants get prison time, outrageous heinous crimes by immigrants punished by a kiss and a cuddle. Makes you wonder if there is a political agenda in operation
 
You bang on about people taking 'simplistic' views on why people voted for Trump, yet you completely ignore the underlying reasons behind the regrettable riots. Also amusing that you think that 'your circle' represents some sort of nationwide view.
The underlying reasons were the agitators spreading disinformation and encouraging people to take direct action. Which isn’t a new problem but the timing of their activity was directly related to the installation of the new government who they wanted to challenge. The events in Southport just being the excuse they used.

My circle are a mixed bunch but it doesn’t include anyone with the type of views which are predominant here. No view is ever nationally representative but I would wager mine and those of my friends is in the majority.
 
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Exactly.

You can be horrified by the riots and yet still angry with the government / politicians.

I get why Charles is saying what he did I simply disagree that people have come together, they haven't, if anything the riots have lit a blue touch paper.

Since the riots we now have Two Tier Starmer meme, Reform are continuing to make in roads, and the government has been going from one crisis to another.

It would be great if we could all hold hands and sing Kumbaya but it aint happened yet and is not likely to.

Wishing for something and making it happen are not the same thing.
There has been a very obvious upping of right wing rhetoric since Labour took power. The riots were part of an attempt to unsettle the new government, using the gullible as foot soldiers.

As a nation there is an equally obvious split but it’s between very unbalanced groups and the rioting seems to have strengthened the resolve of those opposed to the right.

Using silly epithets such as Two Tier Starmer resonates of Trump’s childishness. They might be enjoyed by those gullible foot soldiers but will only strengthen the resolve of others.
 
The underlying reasons were the agitators spreading disinformation and encouraging people to take direct action. Which isn’t a new problem but the timing of their activity was directly related to the installation of the new government who they wanted to challenge. The events in Southport just being the excuse they used.

My circle are a mixed bunch but it doesn’t include anyone with the type of views which are predominant here. No view is ever nationally representative but I would wager mine and those of my friends is in the majority.
So they voted for Brexit then.
 
The underlying reasons were the agitators spreading disinformation and encouraging people to take direct action. Which isn’t a new problem but the timing of their activity was directly related to the installation of the new government who they wanted to challenge. The events in Southport just being the excuse they used.

My circle are a mixed bunch but it doesn’t include anyone with the type of views which are predominant here. No view is ever nationally representative but I would wager mine and those of my friends is in the majority.
You choose your circle and clearly have chosen all remainers and TDS fanatics.
Stating how none have the views as many on here is obvious due to this !
 

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