Sentences too harsh!

[NMPalace]

This is arrant nonsense and just underscores how ridiculous your position is. What is your definition of closing down if not what you've described?

Surely the answer is somewhere in the middle between your 2 views.

During 'lockdown' i continued working albeit remotely (as i still do 90% of the time today), i could still do a food shop, i could still go outside and exercise (i actually did this 3 times as day as i have a dog) , and i still saw the odd friend, albeit in the local park and at a small distance.

Yes i couldn't go to the pub or a footie game or visit family members, but i would struggle to define this as the country being closed down.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Surely the answer is somewhere in the middle between your 2 views.

During 'lockdown' i continued working albeit remotely (as i still do 90% of the time today), i could still do a food shop, i could still go outside and exercise (i actually did this 3 times as day as i have a dog) , and i still saw the odd friend, albeit in the local park and at a small distance.

Yes i couldn't go to the pub or a footie game or visit family members, but i would struggle to define this as the country being closed down.

Whilst I appreciate the attempt at compromise as what you describe happened to you is precisely what I have been saying I think you are confirming my argument. For which I am grateful.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Yes. Go out at 3 AM and see what's open.

Just because the offices, schools, shops, pubs and clubs are closed doesn't mean the country has closed down.

The emergency services are functioning. So are hospitals and care homes. Our defence systems are working. Our roads are open. Goods are being moved. Some factories are operating.

An economy doesn't close down just because some bits of it are temporarily closed. Nor did ours during the lockdowns. Much continued to function but in different ways. Others hibernated. Some failed and closed. The country did not.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So you don't believe in climate change?

I do, but we aren't discussing climate change. We are discussing the integration of humans into societies.

The climate is impacted by known and measurable parameters from which reasonable predictions can be made.

This is much less true with human behaviour. However predictable patterns are known to happen which make a straight-line extrapolation inaccurate.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Just because the offices, schools, shops, pubs and clubs are closed doesn't mean the country has closed down.

The emergency services are functioning. So are hospitals and care homes. Our defence systems are working. Our roads are open. Goods are being moved. Some factories are operating.

An economy doesn't close down just because some bits of it are temporarily closed. Nor did ours during the lockdowns. Much continued to function but in different ways. Others hibernated. Some failed and closed. The country did not.

Try telling this to people with kids whose schools were closed or self employed workers who couldn't work from home. Access to country/ coastal walks and no loss of income would tend to make the situation a lot less stressful. Obsessing over one word doesn't change that.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Read this speech above before watching the video below…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1838486172290461780

Please explain the relevance of a small group of idiots to the overall development of a society.

It's a bit like suggesting that the opinions here are going to alter the way the country thinks!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I do, but we aren't discussing climate change. We are discussing the integration of humans into societies.

The climate is impacted by known and measurable parameters from which reasonable predictions can be made.

This is much less true with human behaviour. However predictable patterns are known to happen which make a straight-line extrapolation inaccurate.

It’s the fact that you cannot extrapolate anything from what is today and reach any kind of conclusion on what will be tomorrow.
Except when you can obviously.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Please explain the relevance of a small group of idiots to the overall development of a society.

It's a bit like suggesting that the opinions here are going to alter the way the country thinks!

It is an example of your ‘enclaves’

 

[Rudi Hedman]

It’s the fact that you cannot extrapolate anything from what is today and reach any kind of conclusion on what will be tomorrow.
Except when you can obviously.

Even The Guardian have reported that on current trends (maths) we’ll be a minority by 2050 or whenever it is.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Try telling this to people with kids whose schools were closed or self employed workers who couldn't work from home. Access to country/ coastal walks and no loss of income would tend to make the situation a lot less stressful. Obsessing over one word doesn't change that.

What has that got to do with the fact that the country did not close?

Of course, individuals were impacted. Nobody claims otherwise. Some significantly so, but the country did not close.

If anyone here is obsessed it's you trying to defend an obvious lie.

Ensuring repeated lies don't become established facts in some minds is important. It's happening too much in the age of Trump. The truth needs to be told.

This idea that the country closed down is simply untrue.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

If one of your tenants won't pay his rent do you...
A. Make him proud and inspired by showing love?
B. Involve his community leader?
C. Kick his arse to the curb and move in someone else?

None of those.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

good point. We white British are made up of part Viking (Danish, Norwegian etc), Central European following the Roman invasions, Irish and French etc so let's face it there isn't that much pure British in us!

Personally i have some Polish in me as a grandmother i never met was born there. I feel 100% British.

Don't encourage this nonsense. One way to hide a truth is to blur the lines.

Look at pictures and film of Britain in the early 1900s and compare that to now. That is all you need to know.
Ethnicity is only part of the equation, but the fact is that right now the vast majority of White British people's genes are English with a bit of Scottish, Irish and Scandinavian thrown in. Of course there are some other genes floating around too but only a small percentage.

That is likely to change drastically over the next 50 years because our big recent population increase is being fuelled entirely by immigration. Indigenous birthrate is falling rapidly.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

If one of your tenants won't pay his rent do you...
A. Make him proud and inspired by showing love?
B. Involve his community leader?
C. Kick his arse to the curb and move in someone else?

I’m sure B. Involve his community leader was his go to solution. Everyone these days has a ‘community leader’, except I don’t.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Not a bl00dy bowling club then, is it? Many people needed physical activity and that’s very important for older people to stay healthy.

Your last paragraph is pathetic.

It is a bowling club. I am organising next year's fixtures this morning. During lockdowns it could not provide actually bowling, but it organise petanque as a substitute and also various online activities. It slowed down until the brakes were released. Older people had to get their physical activity in other ways for a while but mental activities continued.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

What has that got to do with the fact that the country did not close?

Of course, individuals were impacted. Nobody claims otherwise. Some significantly so, but the country did not close.

If anyone here is obsessed it's you trying to defend an obvious lie.

Ensuring repeated lies don't become established facts in some minds is important. It's happening too much in the age of Trump. The truth needs to be told.

This idea that the country closed down is simply untrue.

Still obsessing over one word then. Yes, the country did close down and that you had a reasonable time playing online bowls, having Zoom quizzes and not losing any money doesn't change the fact that many thousands of people suffered badly.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Totally agree, he was never here for honest debate just the wind up.

Respect to those who want to engage with that troll and they frequently make mincemeat of him but I agree with you that it's just bad for the blood pressure.

I wouldn't want to taste any of the mincemeat that is thought to have been made! It must be very bitter and twisted, being made up of old and very unpleasant ingredients.

Nevertheless, it's reassuring to know that attention is still being paid and balloons being burst, ignore buttons notwithstanding.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I’m sure B. Involve his community leader was his go to solution. Everyone these days has a ‘community leader’, except I don’t.

Me either. He/she/they have never made themselves known. Which is odd for such a vital component to social cohesion.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Still obsessing over one word then. Yes, the country did close down and that you had a reasonable time playing online bowls, having Zoom quizzes and not losing any money doesn't change the fact that many thousands of people suffered badly.

The only word that matters is "lie".

What you have written above is a lie. The country did NOT close down. Some things did. Mostly not for too long, but the country did not.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

The only word that matters is "lie".

What you have written above is a lie. The country did NOT close down. Some things did. Mostly not for too long, but the country did not.

And you're perpetuating the lie that it didn't. A lie defending spending hundreds of billions and causing ongoing societal harm.

 

[ASCPFC]

Please explain the relevance of a small group of idiots to the overall development of a society.

It's a bit like suggesting that the opinions here are going to alter the way the country thinks!

Look at all those lovely French people. Paris in Autumn. Special and romantic.