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Sentences too harsh!

Wisbech Eagle said:
Earlier this year I paid a visit to my parents grave in Croydon cemetery, passing by Selhurst too and the house I spent my childhood in. Went to Beddington Church where I was a choirboy and server, was allowed into the vestry too. I don’t go very often, but I don’t go to any big cities if I can avoid them.
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A walk on the wild side. Allowed to visit the vestry? No wonder you've got so many opinions on city life.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
A walk on the wild side. Allowed to visit the vestry? No wonder you've got so many opinions on city life.
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It was part of my childhood. Just as standing on the Holmesdale terrace was and walking around to the Whitehorse Lane end at halftime sometime was. Nothing to do with city life. Croydon then was the local town. The city was London and a train ride away from Waddon, which I did every weekday for several years.

it was only when I moved away that I realised how much I preferred a rural environment and still do.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Doesn’t matter. Those who live in the SW should no more regard their experience as typical than those who live in the SE. Neither are. Every experience is different and demands different approaches.
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Gobbledygook. You live in an ‘enclave’ of white people. The very thing you claim we should avoid. What’s the word for that? Hypocrisy.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Earlier this year I paid a visit to my parents grave in Croydon cemetery, passing by Selhurst too and the house I spent my childhood in. Went to Beddington Church where I was a choirboy and server, was allowed into the vestry too. I don’t go very often, but I don’t go to any big cities if I can avoid them.
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Mass immigration is out of sight, out of mind, to you. You are oblivious to it but your opinions make you a hypocrite.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It was part of my childhood. Just as standing on the Holmesdale terrace was and walking around to the Whitehorse Lane end at halftime sometime was. Nothing to do with city life. Croydon then was the local town. The city was London and a train ride away from Waddon, which I did every weekday for several years.

it was only when I moved away that I realised how much I preferred a rural environment and still do.
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Have you lived in London at any stage in the last 60 years?
 
as per usual, the thread has diverted from the topic of its title.

The link below gets us back on track. An infamous Judge who seems to give very soft sentences to many baddies.
And then Nolan crucifies an honest businessman who had poor paperwork for importing some garlic for his Greengrocer wholesaler business - 6 years in prison .

Continue to troll the thread with shyte and you will incur the Harsh sentencing of Judge Becky.

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Irish Judge Martin Nolan gives suspended sentence to woman found guilty of trafficking unknown number of foreign nationals “to seek asylum” in Ireland

Two foreign nationals from Georgia and living in Ireland were found guilty of facilitating human trafficking in Dublins Circuit Court. According to BreakingNews.ie, the court heard that Mr. Vakjtang Jokhadze (48) and Ms Sophia Grdzelishili <a class="mh-excerpt-more"...
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Rudi Hedman said:
Gobbledygook. You live in an ‘enclave’ of white people. The very thing you claim we should avoid. What’s the word for that? Hypocrisy.
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The “gobbledygook” is all yours! I live in Cornwall. Which is populated by people, some locally born, others not. I have no opinion on what people should choose to avoid. That’s a personal choice. I do though have an opinion on how we should treat new citizens, helping then to adjust to the country they have chosen and to respect its culture and traditions. I don’t think we do nearly enough to achieve that or ensure that they also know what is expected of them.

New arrivals are granted visas, which have conditions attached. New citizens swear allegiance to the King and country and to respect the laws and freedoms. We need to do much more to ensure that is really understood and applied.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
Mass immigration is out of sight, out of mind, to you. You are oblivious to it but your opinions make you a hypocrite.
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Nonsense.

I am very aware that the level of immigration has increased and that the countries of origin have changed, especially so as a consequence of Brexit. Which is ironic given the motives for many pushing for it.

There are some, perhaps including yourself, whose local areas have been more impacted by this than others. That tends to colour their judgement.

My view is that these things tend to settle and sort themselves out in time. Changes are inevitable and to resist the inevitable is wasting time and effort. You either moan, bang your head and get angry and upset, or accept and come to terms, or move.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Nonsense.

I am very aware that the level of immigration has increased and that the countries of origin have changed, especially so as a consequence of Brexit. Which is ironic given the motives for many pushing for it.

There are some, perhaps including yourself, whose local areas have been more impacted by this than others. That tends to colour their judgement.

My view is that these things tend to settle and sort themselves out in time. Changes are inevitable and to resist the inevitable is wasting time and effort. You either moan, bang your head and get angry and upset, or accept and come to terms, or move.
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So being in an area of high immigration tends to colour your judgement? Seriously? No, you’re in the reality of it.

It is the extent of immigration that is the issue. The level it is at now and has been is not inevitable at all. It is a choice. You say you either accept it or move, which will be to a white ‘enclave’ which you strongly disagree with but live in yourself, far away from reality and having your judgement coloured.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I never lived in London. I lived in Croydon as a child, then around the UK with my work, the majority of which was in the Home Counties with a commute into London. So I spent plenty of time there and know my way around.
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REPORTED TO MODS, FOR TROLLING THE THREAD WITH IRRELEVANT SHYTE, AGAIN AND AGAIN.

'SENTENCES TOO HARSH'
 
Rudi Hedman said:
So being in an area of high immigration tends to colour your judgement? Seriously? No, you’re in the reality of it.

It is the extent of immigration that is the issue. The level it is at now and has been is not inevitable at all. It is a choice. You say you either accept it or move, which will be to a white ‘enclave’ which you strongly disagree with but live in yourself, far away from reality and having your judgement coloured.
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You are not living in the reality! You are living in your reality. Just as I am in mine. Together with everyone else’s they form the reality. Change is part of life and some changes impact some people more than others. That doesn’t mean that those changes ought to be resisted, even if they could be, which in this case is impossible. It means we must adopt strategies to smooth the changes and make them as disruptive as possible.

The idea that we could have chosen another way is to deny reality, unless you are prepared to postpone retirement until 75 or 80. We need people to fill the gaps in the workforce. We are living longer and ultimately moves towards that will have to happen but it’s suicide for whichever government tries to do it. Driving the feckless back to work will help but the social costs of doing it would again be hugely unpopular.

The better way is to manage immigration more efficiently. Make it less threatening to people like you and put higher expectations on those arriving.
 
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