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Sentences too harsh!

Wisbech Eagle said:
I expect some might try but whether they succeed is another matter. I also suspect that many more cases of genuine mental illness go undetected than fake ones do.
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The incidence of mental illness in prisons is well understood and many develop problems whilst incarcerated. The issue is that mental health is now almost routinely mentioned when anyone is accused.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
The head of the CPS doesn’t make the law either.
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He doesn't make the law but "the CPS decides which cases should be prosecuted; determines the appropriate charges in more serious or complex cases, and advises the police during the early stages of investigations".
 
Penge Eagle said:
What the hell is happening with the judiciary?

"Judge orders Rotherham rape gang survivor to remove demand for deportations in her victim impact statement"

www.gbnews.com

Judge orders Rotherham rape gang survivor to remove demand for deportations in court statement

The victim, who was grooming and assaulted from the age of 11, faced down her abusers in court last week
www.gbnews.com www.gbnews.com
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The conservatives allowed all the institutions to become socially liberal bastions and this is just very typical of where the judiciary is.

Communism won WW2 and all that was required was for the silent generation to die off for its fruits to bloom.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
Starmer also passed laws that enable illegal migrants to claim benefits. Now they will all be housed across the country quickly. Or that’s their aim.
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Well you've just made that up.

All migrant claims must be assessed (the long delays in assessment is why they are being partly housed in hotels) and if they are approved they may then be able to claim benefits e.g. if they are granted refuge status. If they are approved they are clearly not defined as illegal.

From Citiizens Advice....
You’re always allowed to claim public funds if you have any of the following:

  • British or Irish citizenship
  • settled status from the EU Settlement Scheme
  • indefinite leave - unless you came to the UK on an adult dependent relative visa
  • refugee status or humanitarian protection
  • right of abode
If you don’t have a right to be in the UK, you can’t claim public funds.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Any of those on housing lists who voted for Starmer are just not very bright.
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Starmer will just continue to bring these people in and Britain will continue upon its increasingly non European progression.

Lower social trust, higher crime and increasingly more anti white....especially male working class whites.
 
NMPalace said:
the bloke who sent him the images got a 12 month suspended sentence.

Whether this is right or wrong, the Edward's offence is clearly a lesser one than that as he didn't distribute any images, he just received them.
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'Whether this is right or wrong'.

Perhaps you don't have to wait for a shower to get wet mate.

But I can inform you, yes it's wrong.

Unless someone is a degenerate apologist.
 
NMPalace said:
Well you've just made that up.

All migrant claims must be assessed (the long delays in assessment is why they are being partly housed in hotels) and if they are approved they may then be able to claim benefits e.g. if they are granted refuge status. If they are approved they are clearly not defined as illegal.

From Citiizens Advice....
You’re always allowed to claim public funds if you have any of the following:

  • British or Irish citizenship
  • settled status from the EU Settlement Scheme
  • indefinite leave - unless you came to the UK on an adult dependent relative visa
  • refugee status or humanitarian protection
  • right of abode
If you don’t have a right to be in the UK, you can’t claim public funds.
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Thank you for correcting me, but I’m unsure what this exactly means. What support etc? -

‘It is true that Mr Starmer, before he was an MP and Leader of the Opposition, represented five asylum seekers as a barrister in a case against the government. However the 2003 case Mr Starmer was involved in did not enable all “illegal immigrants” to receive support.

The case challenged legislation introduced by the then-Labour government, which meant the Home Secretary could refuse support to asylum seekers who didn’t claim asylum as soon as they arrived in the country. The claimants Mr Starmer represented won the case as the judge ruled that the government couldn’t refuse support based on how soon after arrival an asylum claim was made. Asylum seekers received support from the government or local authorities for years before 2003.’

fullfact.org

Keir Starmer 2003 court case is not the reason asylum seekers get support - Full Fact

A Facebook post claims that Keir Starmer took the government to court so “illegal immigrants” could receive benefits. This is inaccurate.
fullfact.org fullfact.org
 
Rudi Hedman said:
I should’ve said he’s decided to come back when he’s due back. End of October. If you mean he faces trouble for the riots then there’s nothing g linking him to them. If you can find something then why don’t you put it here.
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Only just noticed this. There’s plenty apparently!

www.bbc.co.uk

Newspaper headlines: 'Far right rampage' and 'Robinson in Cyprus'

The majority of Monday's front pages lead with stories on the violence over the weekend.
www.bbc.co.uk

www.independent.co.uk

Tommy Robinson stokes far-right riots on social media from outside UK

Campaigners warn Robinson inflaming tensions while outside country and subject to arrest warrant
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

www.standard.co.uk

Tommy Robinson accused of stoking far-right riots as he posts 'from Cyprus hotel'

A warrant was issued for Robinson’s arrest after he did not attend a court hearing
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Only just noticed this. There’s plenty apparently!

www.bbc.co.uk

Newspaper headlines: 'Far right rampage' and 'Robinson in Cyprus'

The majority of Monday's front pages lead with stories on the violence over the weekend.
www.bbc.co.uk

www.independent.co.uk

Tommy Robinson stokes far-right riots on social media from outside UK

Campaigners warn Robinson inflaming tensions while outside country and subject to arrest warrant
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

www.standard.co.uk

Tommy Robinson accused of stoking far-right riots as he posts 'from Cyprus hotel'

A warrant was issued for Robinson’s arrest after he did not attend a court hearing
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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Amazing what people can find when it betters their cause! Some can’t be bothered to search if it doesn't.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Only just noticed this. There’s plenty apparently!

www.bbc.co.uk

Newspaper headlines: 'Far right rampage' and 'Robinson in Cyprus'

The majority of Monday's front pages lead with stories on the violence over the weekend.
www.bbc.co.uk

www.independent.co.uk

Tommy Robinson stokes far-right riots on social media from outside UK

Campaigners warn Robinson inflaming tensions while outside country and subject to arrest warrant
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

www.standard.co.uk

Tommy Robinson accused of stoking far-right riots as he posts 'from Cyprus hotel'

A warrant was issued for Robinson’s arrest after he did not attend a court hearing
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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Those are saying he’s been accused of ‘Stoking far right riots.’ They don’t prove anything. Him saying protesters ‘’have legitimate concerns’’ is true.
 
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