Marc Guehi

[NEILLO]

If you have been reading the Newcastle Forums you would KNOW Newcastle fans aren't upset at Guehi. The majority of fans think the price Parish was asking for was madness. He played three good games against absolute duffers. If you think he's worth more than £45 m then you're absolutely delusional. Even Palace insiders were saying Parish had to be careful, because if you continue to fall down the league - probably and Guehi hardly adding to his price - then you'll get no more that £30m next year for him.

By the way if you tHink Guehi is staying because he loves Palace, sniggers, then your crazy. Money money money is what it's all about, even for a " nice " man like Guehi

Newcastle fans are fuming because we should have walked away, three weeks ago. Apparently there were three other targets. Go on read the boards again, its all there. We have £120m burning a hole in our pocket and haven't brought anybody. Eels the Managing Director didn't release the purse and rumours flying around Tyneside PIF are fuming and he will be sacked start of next week. Our time will come because the FA know they can't stop teams like Newcastle spending. Just a matter of waiting, our owners are only worth £634 Billion, and they don't do second best.

Good luck with Geuhi, he's a nice man right....sniggers

Unlike you, I don't bother with other clubs forums.

Equally I'm not bothered that Newcastle fans think that Guehi wasn't worth the asking price. Your manager wanted him but your club chose not to stump up - what does that say about Howes position now that his ' backers ' have gone ? I don't recall reading that Howe didn't want him because Guehi wasn't worth the asking price.

Your opinion that Guehi will only be worth £30m next year gave me a good laugh - more than a hint of bitterness there - thank you !

Guehi not once has agitated for a move. He seems entirely unconcerned that he hasn't been sold to Newcastle. I suspect the reason for that is that he knows if he keeps performing to a high standard then a big club will come in. By big club I mean a club that has a good chance of winning something - Newcastle are not one of those. And talking about falling down the League, where did Newcastle finish last year after finishing fourth the season before ?

Good to read that you are so proud of the Saudi money - you're welcome to it. The rationale behind the financial rules is to give clubs that don't have such backing a more reasonable chance of being competitive. A few short years ago you would have cared about that. But as you say, '' money, money, money is what it's all about '' - you epitomise that philosophy

 

[Painter]

I have read in an article about the goings on at Newcastle, that Parish had no intention of ever selling Guehi to them. They pissed him off with an underhand approach for Freeman in April to replace Dan Ashworth, so he just strung them along all summer, increasing the amount each time they met his valuation. Then leaked it to the press to add more embarrassment for them.

 

[PatrickA]

There’s a very dispiriting (to me ) interview with Parish on Sky where it’s clear that while it wouldn’t have been ideal to lose both Guehi and Anderson, it could easily have happened.
Furthermore , he’s surprised that there hasn’t been more interest in Eze and that he remains at the club.
It’s almost as if he’s inviting bids for our best players.

Now by way of context, he points out that we are not a ‘destination’ club , but part of the journey for players.
But this seemed, at least to me, a different Parish.
Not ambitious and aspirational, but more concerned with survival first and see where that takes us afterwards.

Some will say realistic, but I still find it disappointing that we seem to be running to stand still.

 

[MrRobbo]

There’s a very dispiriting (to me ) interview with Parish on Sky where it’s clear that while it wouldn’t have been ideal to lose both Guehi and Anderson, it could easily have happened.
Furthermore , he’s surprised that there hasn’t been more interest in Eze and that he remains at the club.
It’s almost as if he’s inviting bids for our best players.

Now by way of context, he points out that we are not a ‘destination’ club , but part of the journey for players.
But this seemed, at least to me, a different Parish.
Not ambitious and aspirational, but more concerned with survival first and see where that takes us afterwards.

Some will say realistic, but I still find it disappointing that we seem to be running to stand still.

Feels pragmatic to me.

Yeah wouldn't be ideal to lose both CBs, but if you get offered 100m for the pair, it would be crazy not to take it.

Anyone who doesn't agree that we aren't a destination club needs to give their head a wobble.

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

The whole problem started when Newcastle came in with a mickey taking bid, they have no one to blame but themselves. I can’t believe this saga went on for as long as it did.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

The whole problem started when Newcastle came in with a mickey taking bid, they have no one to blame but themselves. I can’t believe this saga went on for as long as it did.

Quite funny in retrospect that they seemed to think they're Real Madrid and could just crook a finger to get any player running to them with the selling club flattered to do business with them.
As has been said it's the Daniel Levy tactic -
"We want your player"
"Here's the price"
"What????? We're not being held to ransom just because we're a big club"
"Well do one then".
Without getting into the issue of buy out clauses hopefully we've put down a marker with this to show we're not going to get mugged off by clubs with rich owners.

 

[Nicholas91]

The whole problem started when Newcastle came in with a mickey taking bid, they have no one to blame but themselves. I can’t believe this saga went on for as long as it did.

They've said 'they wouldn't be taken advantage of'.

It carries the same weight as when I argued the exact same point to a shelf stacker in Sainsburys about the price of Olive Oil.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

They've said 'they wouldn't be taken advantage of'.

It carries the same weight as when I argued the exact same point to a shelf stacker in Sainsburys about the price of Olive Oil.

Surely Popeye gets a say in that?

 

[Eagleman13]

Surely Popeye gets a say in that?

Not with Brutus as her boss.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Not with Brutus as her boss.

He's gone back to making jeans.

 

[silvertop]

Feels pragmatic to me.

Yeah wouldn't be ideal to lose both CBs, but if you get offered 100m for the pair, it would be crazy not to take it.

Anyone who doesn't agree that we aren't a destination club needs to give their head a wobble.

That's my take.

We have come a long, long way in 14 years but we are still tiny compared to the division's giants; and also pretty small beside the likes of Villa, West Ham, Everton and Newcastle.

Anyone who thinks that we are suddenly big enough to resist predation by bigger richer clubs who can offer the outgoing player twice the salary is getting ahead of themself.

But we have arrived at a good destination play wise. Finally safe mid table with possible sorties into Europe and the cups now not just a dream. Our players are noticed and 9 are now off on international duty, including 5 finalists in recent continental tournaments.

Parish has made clear that all our players are for sale, but while we are a relatively successful EPL team, buyers will have to pay through the nose.

 

[est1905]

That's my take.

We have come a long, long way in 14 years but we are still tiny compared to the division's giants; and also pretty small beside the likes of Villa, West Ham, Everton and Newcastle.

Anyone who thinks that we are suddenly big enough to resist predation by bigger richer clubs who can offer the outgoing player twice the salary is getting ahead of themself.

But we have arrived at a good destination play wise. Finally safe mid table with possible sorties into Europe and the cups now not just a dream. Our players are noticed and 9 are now off on international duty, including 5 finalists in recent continental tournaments.

Parish has made clear that all our players are for sale, but while we are a relatively successful EPL team, buyers will have to pay through the nose.

We are not small compared to West Ham or Everton. Villa are growing again through success on the pitch. Newcastle because of their wealth. While due to history, stadium and one or two other things I accept they are bigger than us I'm not having it that we are small in comparison. SmallER but not small.

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

We are not small compared to West Ham or Everton. Villa are growing again through success on the pitch. Newcastle because of their wealth. While due to history, stadium and one or two other things I accept they are bigger than us I'm not having it that we are small in comparison. SmallER but not small.

Like us they have operated between the Premiership and the Championship in modern times, which they seem to forgotten about also they have never got into the “ big 6” bracket. So they are really perennial under achievers as it stands. They certainly will not be playing Champions League footy again any time soon….

 

[NEILLO]

Like us they have operated between the Premiership and the Championship in modern times, which they seem to forgotten about also they have never got into the “ big 6” bracket. So they are really perennial under achievers as it stands. They certainly will not be playing Champions League footy again any time soon….

The cracks are small at the moment, but they are cracks nevertheless in terms of Newcastles internal workings....

 

[ex hibitionist]

Palace are a 'small club' compared to the top six or Villa, even Everton, but clubs and supporters like Newcastle (or West Ham at times) are deluded if they think someone earning a big salary in a team that is thriving in a place which had the faith in him to let him show what he can do at premier league level will consider a move to their place because they are 'bigger'. Their ground has a bigger capacity and that's it - no trophies, no Europe, not much pedigree apart from a few champions league forays under Bobby Robson, sure his salary would increase, but he won't have to wait long before a genuinely big club which can offer him success as well as more money will come in. I really thought MG would go to Liverpool and we'd get Gomez - if MG doesn't sign a new contract with us, and I don't think he will, then that move could happen in January. Parrish is being very strong, but if he plays poker too much we could risk losing MG for a much lower transfer fee.

 

[Houston Eagle]

it’s clear the window has shut but disruptive stories still percolate around daily. It will never end and unfortunately those clubs good enough for PL football but not in the hunt for trophies will always be the feedstock for speculation.

The road to sustained successes will come with many disappointments. My stance is similar to Parish’s that we want a fair return on our assets who either want to leave or are “poached” by other clubs. Time will tell but replacing Anderson and Ayew for example for Lacroix and Sarr with a few million in the bank is extremely good business IMHO.

Fan forums are just that but unless I see gross negligence I trust the job our leadership are doing.

On Mark Guehi, I thought £65M was fair but leaving for free in 2 years represents gross negligence in my book. You sell high when you can.

 

[dg1937]

it’s clear the window has shut but disruptive stories still percolate around daily. It will never end and unfortunately those clubs good enough for PL football but not in the hunt for trophies will always be the feedstock for speculation.

The road to sustained successes will come with many disappointments. My stance is similar to Parish’s that we want a fair return on our assets who either want to leave or are “poached” by other clubs. Time will tell but replacing Anderson and Ayew for example for Lacroix and Sarr with a few million in the bank is extremely good business IMHO.

Fan forums are just that but unless I see gross negligence I trust the job our leadership are doing.

On Mark Guehi, I thought £65M was fair but leaving for free in 2 years represents gross negligence in my book. You sell high when you can.

But IF Newcastle were the only club bidding and IF Guehi didn’t want to go there, then Palace’s options were pretty limited.

In an ideal world MG signs a new contract but, from his point of view, it makes sense to wait for a bigger club to come in offering him a bumper deal and guaranteed CL football. A club paying a reduced fee to Palace can shovel some of the money they save in Marc’s direction.

 

[Houston Eagle]

But IF Newcastle were the only club bidding and IF Guehi didn’t want to go there, then Palace’s options were pretty limited.

In an ideal world MG signs a new contract but, from his point of view, it makes sense to wait for a bigger club to come in offering him a bumper deal and guaranteed CL football. A club paying a reduced fee to Palace can shovel some of the money they save in Marc’s direction.

I think the way this specific sequence of events went was correct for Marc and Palace. In January or next year the circus will start again. Like Olise it is probably only a matter of time before the player leaves, hopefully to a CL team, such as Bayern Munich (unless our project is so appealing the player wants to stay). I'm sure a contract extension with release clause will be put on the table. If not signed, then we will have to take the money and move on.

 

[taylors lovechild]

Maybe Parish also looked at the fact that Newcastle sold Minteh and Elliot Andersen for over £30 million each – one player without a single PL appearance and one who was a bit part squad player with a bad back. Maybe he thought, well if they've been sold for that then one of England's standout performers at the Euros must be worth at least double that. I imagine most Palace fans would think anything north of £60 million for Guehi would be a good deal, but perhaps with Andersen going it was bad timing. Newcastle's biggest mistake seems to have been all about timing, possibly thinking his price would come down rather than go up as the window progressed. They seemingly got that embarrassingly wrong.

Marc still has two years left on his deal, so he would be mad not to accept a big increase in his salary to sign a new deal. He would then have security; if he plays well enough, he'll get his move next summer. If he doesn't, he can be thankful he signed a new deal! I'd wager a bet a new deal will be signed by the end of the month.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

I think knowing and realising what your club can achieve is the key, we are not and never will be a Champions League team, but we should be a comfortable 8 to 14 team, with hopefully a cup thrown in, we are i would say at the moment at the maximum we can afford, the better players you have or become want more money, we cant afford 200k for Guehi or 150k for Mateta or 120 for Mitchell, all of them in their last or second last, so sell big and buying smaller but quality is the only way, career players are a thing of the past, but West Ham, Everton and Aston Villa think they are top 6 candidates, but they are not, Villa had a good season last year, but with a massive outlay on signings and new contracts, i see major problems for them in FFP and Sustainability in the next few years, are Leeds, Sunderland, etc big clubs?