Marc Guéhi

Frickin Saweet said:
without doubt Guehi is important to us but getting £30m in now could allow us to strengthen the team overall to help us in the competitions we're in this season. We're not exactly killing it in defence right now. Glasner's issue was that we didn't have a replacement lined up, not necessarily with the general idea of selling Guehi.
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I agree with you, but I'd also point out that Richards and Muñoz are a huge loss for us defensively. I think Canvot can be very useful, but like anyone, he's better when he's surrounded by better teammates.
 
Badger11 said:
Yup if City really want him then then make Ake will be part of the deal.
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We don't have enough room in the medical room to facilitate Ake and his ongoing injury issues, he is never fit for more than 4 or 5 games.
Guehi won't go to City with Bayern and Real M showing interest. It's his choice not Parish's now, he will see his contract out, then get a huge signing on fee. Good luck to him, he has acted impeccably in this whole saga.
 
Painter said:
We don't have enough room in the medical room to facilitate Ake and his ongoing injury issues, he is never fit for more than 4 or 5 games.
Guehi won't go to City with Bayern and Real M showing interest. It's his choice not Parish's now, he will see his contract out, then get a huge signing on fee. Good luck to him, he has acted impeccably in this whole saga.
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I agree Mark has demonstrated great professionalism. But I also think he wants to go to the bin dippers (God knows why 🙏 !! ) and if we could manage the situation where they feel they will miss out (especially to City) then we could create the pressure for them to make a big offer.
As a fan I would be delighted to see Mark stay till the end of the season, but money talks.
 
At yesterday's press conference Glasner acknowledged that Guehi will go in January if an acceptable offer comes in and if Guehi wants to leave.
Man City have a number of defensive injuries and are rumoured to be considering a bid.
If Guehi had told the club he was not interested in any move until the summer at least, then Glasner could have quashed any speculation, so perhaps Guehi would be open to a move if the terms were right although you would imagine that financially he would be in the most advantageous position in the summer when there would be no transfer fee to pay.
 
I assume the stance is the same as it was in the Summer; That we'll need a replacement before we can sanction any move, tho I haven't seen many rumours involving defenders for this January....
 
Why would Mark go anywhere now? Im sure he will be looking for a signing on fee of at least £15m, (which as a free agent would be at least double that in the summer).
So if Palace want £30m, the deal will cost a club £45m. Really? Why not just wait to the summer?
 
PatrickA said:
At yesterday's press conference Glasner acknowledged that Guehi will go in January if an acceptable offer comes in and if Guehi wants to leave.
Man City have a number of defensive injuries and are rumoured to be considering a bid.
If Guehi had told the club he was not interested in any move until the summer at least, then Glasner could have quashed any speculation, so perhaps Guehi would be open to a move if the terms were right although you would imagine that financially he would be in the most advantageous position in the summer when there would be no transfer fee to pay.
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It wouldn't have quashed speculation which is quite happy to thrive away on nothing but conjecture as it is. On the other hand, since unsettling gossip is inevitable encouraging the most blatantly ill-founded would make some sense.
 
Charles said:
It wouldn't have quashed speculation which is quite happy to thrive away on nothing but conjecture as it is. On the other hand, since unsettling gossip is inevitable encouraging the most blatantly ill-founded would make some sense.
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I think this is one of those sagas that has gone on so long that no one really cares about the gossip anymore.
 
dreamwaverider said:
Why would Mark go anywhere now? Im sure he will be looking for a signing on fee of at least £15m, (which as a free agent would be at least double that in the summer).
So if Palace want £30m, the deal will cost a club £45m. Really? Why not just wait to the summer?
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Who knows if its B/S or not these days ? there is so much written, rewritten & churned out as
"exclusive update" I struggle to take any of it seriously anymore.

In terms of why not wait until the summer - We are getting to the business end of the season (I know very little about Man City) Maybe they need to strengthen to bolster their PL challenge as they are still 6 points short of Arsenal, Rodri seems to be injured more often these day, they are still in all of the competitions, so the schedule will become relentless (although Marc would be cup tied for the Carabou Cup - no idea if our European Conference adventure makes him ineligible for the Champions League) with their financial investment if they don't win at least 2 trophies a year its seen as a poor season & of course there is the fear of seeing Marc going to Liverpool one of their biggest rivals.

I think when Real Madrid paid Liverpool £10 million just to get TAA a few weeks earlier so he could play in that world club cup thingy it set just another example of how desperate clubs can be to see any form of success & the trappings that go with it.
 
and now Arsenal , got Zaha written all over it how many clubs was he sold to by the papers every window , Marc is a very special guy in todays age , his work ethic is 2nd to none , he will do it right not when the pundits and papers say , will be glad for Marc when this whole saga is over , the media are trying to ruining a good man to massage there own egos
 
All this talk about the huge signing on fee and wages Marc will earn is, in my opinion, twaddle. Every team has limits with goal scorers being the best paid. The backs are down the pecking order when it comes to money. Clubs will not want their players to feel hard done by a newcomer. Yes he will get a nice welcome payment of £1m or so and a substantial weekly wage in the region of £150-200k plus bonuses. He will also get big endorsement from companies associated with his employer. By our standards its massive but until he has proved himself over time the he will not yet be among the best paid centre backs in the world.

Guehi has his limitations. At only 6.0ft he is not a towering dominant header of the ball and his distribution out of defence is limited. We see this demonstrated weekly by his reluctance to play balls to forward to advanced players preferring to put short passes to Lacroix or Mitchell and occasionally Wharton/Hughes/Lerma who come right back to receive it. His attraction to other teams is his speed, tackling, reading of the game and calmness under pressure. He is very much in the Vincent Kompany mould and therefore of particular interest to Manchester City.

We took on Marc when others didn’t want him, gave him an opportunity to improve his defensive skills under Roy’s experienced eye and game time to hone them. He has received a good wage (£2.5m pa) and been offered a substantial increase, not to stop his ambition of moving to a top club but to help us get a replacement. Was that too much to ask? I wish him well but also that he might have had the good grace to do as Olise and Eze had and thank former clubs for the help they gave.
 
Norbury Old Git said:
All this talk about the huge signing on fee and wages Marc will earn is, in my opinion, twaddle. Every team has limits with goal scorers being the best paid. The backs are down the pecking order when it comes to money. Clubs will not want their players to feel hard done by a newcomer. Yes he will get a nice welcome payment of £1m or so and a substantial weekly wage in the region of £150-200k plus bonuses. He will also get big endorsement from companies associated with his employer. By our standards its massive but until he has proved himself over time the he will not yet be among the best paid centre backs in the world.

Guehi has his limitations. At only 6.0ft he is not a towering dominant header of the ball and his distribution out of defence is limited. We see this demonstrated weekly by his reluctance to play balls to forward to advanced players preferring to put short passes to Lacroix or Mitchell and occasionally Wharton/Hughes/Lerma who come right back to receive it. His attraction to other teams is his speed, tackling, reading of the game and calmness under pressure. He is very much in the Vincent Kompany mould and therefore of particular interest to Manchester City.

We took on Marc when others didn’t want him, gave him an opportunity to improve his defensive skills under Roy’s experienced eye and game time to hone them. He has received a good wage (£2.5m pa) and been offered a substantial increase, not to stop his ambition of moving to a top club but to help us get a replacement. Was that too much to ask? I wish him well but also that he might have had the good grace to do as Olise and Eze had and thank former clubs for the help they gave.
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Guehi is by far the best ball-playing centre-back Palace have ever had, in fact the best England have.

His confidence carrying the ball out from the back and effectively operating as an extra midfielder is outstanding.

We saw it against Villa in a move that nearly led to a goal: he stepped into midfield, took a fizzed pass from Wharton on the turn, and played a perfectly weighted through ball to Johnson all in one motion. Johnson then flashed it across the box for Mateta.

Funny old game, how two opinions can differ so wildly. It will be sad to see him go, but he’s one player I have absolutely no doubt will be comfortable at the very top, competing for the biggest honours.
 
Norbury Old Git said:
All this talk about the huge signing on fee and wages Marc will earn is, in my opinion, twaddle. Every team has limits with goal scorers being the best paid. The backs are down the pecking order when it comes to money. Clubs will not want their players to feel hard done by a newcomer. Yes he will get a nice welcome payment of £1m or so and a substantial weekly wage in the region of £150-200k plus bonuses. He will also get big endorsement from companies associated with his employer. By our standards its massive but until he has proved himself over time the he will not yet be among the best paid centre backs in the world.

Guehi has his limitations. At only 6.0ft he is not a towering dominant header of the ball and his distribution out of defence is limited. We see this demonstrated weekly by his reluctance to play balls to forward to advanced players preferring to put short passes to Lacroix or Mitchell and occasionally Wharton/Hughes/Lerma who come right back to receive it. His attraction to other teams is his speed, tackling, reading of the game and calmness under pressure. He is very much in the Vincent Kompany mould and therefore of particular interest to Manchester City.

We took on Marc when others didn’t want him, gave him an opportunity to improve his defensive skills under Roy’s experienced eye and game time to hone them. He has received a good wage (£2.5m pa) and been offered a substantial increase, not to stop his ambition of moving to a top club but to help us get a replacement. Was that too much to ask? I wish him well but also that he might have had the good grace to do as Olise and Eze had and thank former clubs for the help they gave.
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I don't agree with any of the above.

Clubs will pay fees and wages according to their needs and requirements at the time. City are in dire need of a centre back. Guehi would represent value for money at a reduced fee and including any signing on fee that he asks for - rumoured to be in the region of £10m for the signing on fee.

I don't know why you are pointing out what you perceive to be his '' limitations '' . Every player has strengths and weaknesses. So what ?

As for your last paragraph, as I've written on here many times in the past, players responsibility is to their careers not to the the wellbeing of the club. He's fulfilled his contract to date, and the way he has conducted himself since his summer move fell through has been widely admired and commented on by the football community and evidenced by his performances on the pitch. Olise and Eze signed new deals that inserted release clauses into their contracts - you're thanking Olise for negotiating a £50m fee - did you think he was helping the club by doing so ?
 
NEILLO said:
I don't agree with any of the above.

Clubs will pay fees and wages according to their needs and requirements at the time. City are in dire need of a centre back. Guehi would represent value for money at a reduced fee and including any signing on fee that he asks for - rumoured to be in the region of £10m for the signing on fee.

I don't know why you are pointing out what you perceive to be his '' limitations '' . Every player has strengths and weaknesses. So what ?

As for your last paragraph, as I've written on here many times in the past, players responsibility is to their careers not to the the wellbeing of the club. He's fulfilled his contract to date, and the way he has conducted himself since his summer move fell through has been widely admired and commented on by the football community and evidenced by his performances on the pitch. Olise and Eze signed new deals that inserted release clauses into their contracts - you're thanking Olise for negotiating a £50m fee - did you think he was helping the club by doing so ?
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Apparently Olise got a £10m signing on fee at Bayern.
Like you say, I would expect Guehi to negotiate at least that.
 
dreamwaverider said:
Why would Mark go anywhere now? Im sure he will be looking for a signing on fee of at least £15m, (which as a free agent would be at least double that in the summer).
So if Palace want £30m, the deal will cost a club £45m. Really? Why not just wait to the summer?
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every signing has a signing on fee, it is usually rolled up into the quoted weekly wages.

I suspect MG's agent is demanding at least £200k a week wages. I suspect that could be say £150k a week for a 5 year contract and maybe £10m to £15m as a signing on bonus.

In the summer the agent's wage demands will only go up
 
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