Leeds v Crystal Palace Match Thread

Palace supporters arrived at Elland road full of hope and expectation. The first20/30 minutes were dire. We were awful. Nothing created. Mateta and nketiah toothless.Pino a neat industrious lightweight. But still it was only Leeds we were playing. Then we forgot how to defend for the first time in 2 seasons. And Leeds looked like they would score every time the ball was launched towards our box. Players and Olly Glasner rightly should be embarrassed Test of OLlys metal to see if he can get a response against the arsenal on Tuesday. A repeat would lead to another (much bigger) thrashing. Seems we can’t compete with 3 first choice absentees ( kamada munoz Saar )…bit like the spuds. But isn it always like this with palace. We will look back on this past 2 years as absolute golden times. Business more like usual ahead I suspect. Chairman really has a tough job to navigate the decisions made in the next 6 months. COYP!
 
Players that are left standing are shattered and whoever we play at the moment in the prem will beat us. We should have concentrated on the KUPS and Arsenal matches with KUPS saving us two further matches and Arsenal leaving a break before the Spurs match to recover. Now we have knackered players after yesterday playing at Arsenal followed by Spurs at home. It should have been managed better but saying that there’s no guarantee of winning again for a while with our squad as it is with injuries / Afcon / out of form players and such small squad. Yesterday was all the problems I mentioned as well as a poor display and Leeds looking fresh and up for it :-(
 
OneStevePerrin said:
Can’t say that wasn’t expected after all the matches we have played this season especially with such a small squad. My annoyance is that we screwed up against KUPS by not putting out a stronger team to automatically put us into the next round. Now we have two extra games in that competition, prem games, FA cup plus a Carabo cup match on Tuesday. If we had won Thursday today wouldn’t have mattered so much and now we go into a most probable defeat on Tuesday. I’m annoyed at this as we should have won on Thursday and taken the hit today - grrrr!
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A small club like Grimsby Town would have beaten KuPS on that night.
 
Rainforest said:
A small club like Grimsby Town would have beaten KuPS on that night.
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I doubt but we will never know. KuPS have been regular starters in Europe for several seasons. While not performing great they probably got a feeling how to try to annoy even bigger guns than Grimsby.
 
Hannes said:
I doubt but we will never know. KuPS have been regular starters in Europe for several seasons. While not performing great they probably got a feeling how to try to annoy even bigger guns than Grimsby.
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We actually discussed this the other night, some of these small European clubs we’ve been looking down our noses at have a lot of European football experience, where as we’re novices. Larneca certainly played like a team that knew how to grind a result out of better opposition
 
OneStevePerrin said:
Players that are left standing are shattered and whoever we play at the moment in the prem will beat us. We should have concentrated on the KUPS and Arsenal matches with KUPS saving us two further matches and Arsenal leaving a break before the Spurs match to recover. Now we have knackered players after yesterday playing at Arsenal followed by Spurs at home. It should have been managed better but saying that there’s no guarantee of winning again for a while with our squad as it is with injuries / Afcon / out of form players and such small squad. Yesterday was all the problems I mentioned as well as a poor display and Leeds looking fresh and up for it :-(
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I'm so tired of seeing this pathetic excuse. 1. Every other club manages to deal with fixture congestion. Some have been racked with injuries for longer than us. 2. Not one of the players that started last night started on Thursday. Most played less than 20 mins or none at all which means the last time they played was 14th December. A week ago! FFS, if thats not enough time to get in some rest there's something wrong with them. Its embarrassing to keep whining that our players are tired.
The bottom line is (as others have pointed out) there are a couple of key players out that are essential to us. Munoz and Sarr being the main ones. But JPM has been poor for weeks now. They say he's carrying a knee injury. If thats true then bench him for Christ sake.
Yes we need to bring in players in January and yes we need Munoz and Sarr back asap but the players on the pitch that we have are still capable of far better than the tripe they served up last night. Defensively we were appalling and up front we offered very little.
That was by a country mile the worst performance we have put in since Glasner took over. They let us fans down (particularly those that spent their hard earned money at Christmas travelling to Yorkshire to watch them), they let Glasner down but most of all they let themselves down and they know it.

One thing I have loved about OG being in charge has been a total professional attitude towards every game where we always believe we can win regardless who we are playing and we never take anyone lightly regardless of how shite they are. Leeds are NOT a decent team. The league table doesn't lie. We were an embarrassment last night and sadly I can now only see a drubbing at Arsenal on Tuesday. As OG has always said, he is not a magician. He'd have to be Yoda to get us through on Tuesday!
 
est1905 said:
I'm so tired of seeing this pathetic excuse. 1. Every other club manages to deal with fixture congestion. Some have been racked with injuries for longer than us. 2. Not one of the players that started last night started on Thursday. Most played less than 20 mins or none at all which means the last time they played was 14th December. A week ago! FFS, if thats not enough time to get in some rest there's something wrong with them. Its embarrassing to keep whining that our players are tired.
The bottom line is (as others have pointed out) there are a couple of key players out that are essential to us. Munoz and Sarr being the main ones. But JPM has been poor for weeks now. They say he's carrying a knee injury. If thats true then bench him for Christ sake.
Yes we need to bring in players in January and yes we need Munoz and Sarr back asap but the players on the pitch that we have are still capable of far better than the tripe they served up last night. Defensively we were appalling and up front we offered very little.
That was by a country mile the worst performance we have put in since Glasner took over. They let us fans down (particularly those that spent their hard earned money at Christmas travelling to Yorkshire to watch them), they let Glasner down but most of all they let themselves down and they know it.

One thing I have loved about OG being in charge has been a total professional attitude towards every game where we always believe we can win regardless who we are playing and we never take anyone lightly regardless of how shite they are. Leeds are NOT a decent team. The league table doesn't lie. We were an embarrassment last night and sadly I can now only see a drubbing at Arsenal on Tuesday. As OG has always said, he is not a magician. He'd have to be Yoda to get us through on Tuesday!
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We are 'Birds on the same twig' on this matter.
Appalling performance and a total embarrassment.
A significant slide down the table in the coming weeks is highly probable.
I suspect we will go down faster than 'Billy Bunter' on a bungee jump.
 
est1905 said:
I'm so tired of seeing this pathetic excuse. 1. Every other club manages to deal with fixture congestion. Some have been racked with injuries for longer than us. 2. Not one of the players that started last night started on Thursday. Most played less than 20 mins or none at all which means the last time they played was 14th December. A week ago! FFS, if thats not enough time to get in some rest there's something wrong with them. Its embarrassing to keep whining that our players are tired.
The bottom line is (as others have pointed out) there are a couple of key players out that are essential to us. Munoz and Sarr being the main ones. But JPM has been poor for weeks now. They say he's carrying a knee injury. If thats true then bench him for Christ sake.
Yes we need to bring in players in January and yes we need Munoz and Sarr back asap but the players on the pitch that we have are still capable of far better than the tripe they served up last night. Defensively we were appalling and up front we offered very little.
That was by a country mile the worst performance we have put in since Glasner took over. They let us fans down (particularly those that spent their hard earned money at Christmas travelling to Yorkshire to watch them), they let Glasner down but most of all they let themselves down and they know it.

One thing I have loved about OG being in charge has been a total professional attitude towards every game where we always believe we can win regardless who we are playing and we never take anyone lightly regardless of how shite they are. Leeds are NOT a decent team. The league table doesn't lie. We were an embarrassment last night and sadly I can now only see a drubbing at Arsenal on Tuesday. As OG has always said, he is not a magician. He'd have to be Yoda to get us through on Tuesday!
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Look at it again and you'll see our tactics were all wrong for the players we had available. Without Munoz in particular there is no point expecting runs from both wing backs. Without Sarr, there is no out ball on one side. Hence, when you look back at it, Leeds marked Mateta - who already didn't look great. Pino runs down blind alleys so they stand off him - notice how there are always two or three guys in front of him in the end. That leaves Nketiah and he's not at his best out wide. He was largely isolated - the front three were not close enough together all match.
In addition, Wharton looked like he was under instruction to burst forward. It was nice to see. However, that left Hughes exposed in front of the back three. Leeds largely by passed that anyway by playing wide. They ran at Clyne in particular. Often, he wasn't there to run at. He was too far up the pitch. We were constantly chasing them down the wings and people were having to cover from the center. We were being pulled side to side.
A formation change could have perhaps countered that. But it didn't look like we were fully at the races anyway.
I'd say 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 would have let us progress through the middle and covered the gaps out wide. Even then, our approach was wrong. We should have been defensive but we were very attacking. We underestimated them and they not only out fought us, they also put thought us. Glasner has a tonne of credit in the bank but this was largely down to him.
 
ASCPFC said:
Look at it again and you'll see our tactics were all wrong for the players we had available. Without Munoz in particular there is no point expecting runs from both wing backs. Without Sarr, there is no out ball on one side. Hence, when you look back at it, Leeds marked Mateta - who already didn't look great. Pino runs down blind alleys so they stand off him - notice how there are always two or three guys in front of him in the end. That leaves Nketiah and he's not at his best out wide. He was largely isolated - the front three were not close enough together all match.
In addition, Wharton looked like he was under instruction to burst forward. It was nice to see. However, that left Hughes exposed in front of the back three. Leeds largely by passed that anyway by playing wide. They ran at Clyne in particular. Often, he wasn't there to run at. He was too far up the pitch. We were constantly chasing them down the wings and people were having to cover from the center. We were being pulled side to side.
A formation change could have perhaps countered that. But it didn't look like we were fully at the races anyway.
I'd say 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 would have let us progress through the middle and covered the gaps out wide. Even then, our approach was wrong. We should have been defensive but we were very attacking. We underestimated them and they not only out fought us, they also put thought us. Glasner has a tonne of credit in the bank but this was largely down to him.
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In the final analysis we were culpable at set-pieces and I somehow doubt that any formation change would have made any difference in this respect.
It was a tale of woe, a night to forget.We crumbled like Caerphilly cheese and hopefully we will not witness the cresta run of a significant football descent.
 
Willo said:
In the final analysis we were culpable at set-pieces and I somehow doubt that any formation change would have made any difference in this respect.
It was a tale of woe, a night to forget.We crumbled like Caerphilly cheese and hopefully we will not witness the cresta run of a significant football descent.
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We might not have been constantly conceding the set pieces in the first place. We may have been under far less pressure. We were constantly having to chase back but we also didn't have the pace to do that. Leeds stretched us, it was obvious from about twenty, thirty minutes in that we needed to change. They were countering down the wing and by passing our press.
 
and the melt down begins , we was awful yes , everything we was good at , we didn't do well couldn't do , reminds of last season let in 10 goals without reply in in 2 match's , last night was nothing todo with tired players they more or less had a full weeks recovery .
windows coming up we need a RWB cant replace inured Munoz , like cant replace Eze and Olise like for like ,
Best we can do is get someone at least 80/ 85% as good as a good stand in , another goal scorer midfield preferred easy said than done , another CB maybe striker so thats 4 , with couple of the kids showing promise can turn this round , more than likely do something stupid on Tuesday and win the good old palace way , we have done it so many times ,

So heads up keep the faith we have been sploit the past year as fans COYP
 
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