NEILLO
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There's a world of difference in expectations between signing Pardew for £7500 from non-league Yeovil and signing a full international that's played in Serie A and European football !
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Kamada will be an asset
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park the bus
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In all honesty he needed to step up after a slow start. It can only be good for him and the club, so long may it continue!
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And that's the rub. Expectation. Hughes was only going to be a squad player who is brought on to solidify midfield and slow things down by running around booting people. Taking cards for the team. It's why he is still some fans nominee for POTY as the tune Glasner got out of him was something far above that. It was a revelation.
But this guy. I expected Pirlo, but we got... me! People were entitled to be disappointed. But I reckon next season he is going to be the dog's cajones.
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He’s becoming an asset now. Took longer than I expected!
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We expected something like Son but we got son of Son. But he's not the second coming - more like a gradual bedding in before we truly believe.
'He's not the Messiah.
He's a very naughty boy.'
Yes and no. You make a valid point...but expectation aside, Hughes has just been so much better in every facet of the game than Daichi.
If the final was tomorrow, and assuming Wharton is fit, who should partner him in midfield?
They all have claims/strengths/weaknesses.
Kamada holds the position currently, has improved, gets around the field and is tidy on the ball.
Hughes was a contender of player of the season until suspension/illness.
He still seems to be the best partner for Wharton in terms of how they dovetail together.
Lerma is the best defensive midfielder amongst them,the most physical and the best in the air.
Personally I would go with Lerma to start to try and counteract the early threat of DeBruyne/ Kovacic/ Foden.
Changes could then be made depending upon how the game is going.
I don't think Glasner will start Lerma though.
They all have claims/strengths/weaknesses.
Kamada holds the position currently, has improved, gets around the field and is tidy on the ball.
Hughes was a contender of player of the season until suspension/illness.
He still seems to be the best partner for Wharton in terms of how they dovetail together.
Lerma is the best defensive midfielder amongst them,the most physical and the best in the air.
Personally I would go with Lerma to start to try and counteract the early threat of DeBruyne/ Kovacic/ Foden.
Changes could then be made depending upon how the game is going.
I don't think Glasner will start Lerma though.
Kamada had a solid game again last night. He's clearly not the World class Japanese international we thought we were getting but I am now starting to get why Glasner wanted him.
I can see him starting in the final. One thing I have noticed about him from day one, even when he was struggling. Nothing phases him
I can see him starting in the final. One thing I have noticed about him from day one, even when he was struggling. Nothing phases him
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That could be because as the saying goes - if you can keep your head while all around are losing their's you've clearly misunderstood the situation.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed but fear he will make a crucial mistake in the final. He lost out on a tackle that led to Elanga's chance in the first half (good save by Hendo) and Pep will surely get his midfielders to hassle him
Im pretty sure that Kamada will start.
I think its clear, at least to me, what Glasner's preferred starting 11 is. Good chance we'll see the same starting tame against Spurs.
I get the chat about dove tailing with Wharton etc, but I think Glasner is showing that he is prioritising technical ability. As a pair, they may lose a few tackles that Lerma/Hughes would have got, but we'll transition better and hopefully create more chances.
Pretty solid analysis. I'd go with Hughes and Wharton...but Lerma isn't a bad shout. I think when it's a final you also have to take into consideration who our leaders are...who's going to bleed for the shirt etc. That man is Will Hughes. Is Daichi going to bust a lung to get back and throw himself in front of a shot...unlikely.
Glasner will almost definitely go with Kamada. And if we win and Kamada has a blinder...I'll eat humble pie. I just can't see it.
Glasner has stated he prefers a left footer and right footer in midfield. He has been waiting for Kamada to find his feet in the Premier, now its Wharton and Kamada as first choice.
I heard him say that and it surprised me.
I would have thought that the determining factor would be which partnership was the most effective rather than which foot they kicked with.
Whenever I’ve seen Wharton and Hughes feature together it appears very natural with good understanding between them. Which foot they kick with has been immaterial and does not appear to have hampered their play.
Perhaps I’m missing something.
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The whole Kamada thing continues to mystify. Yes he had his best game in the semi final and the other night wasn't his worst performance. But the bar is fairly low with him.
I feel so sorry for Hughes. I thought he made an immediate impact Monday night, much as he has done throughout the season. Maybe the left foot/right foot is relevant for a 30yd plus pass, but there are not too many in a game.
I want Hughes to play, but accept, injuries aside, he won't. Maybe Glasner doesn't like the yellow cards he attracts and the resultant risk of a second. I'm clutching at straws now.
I feel so sorry for Hughes. I thought he made an immediate impact Monday night, much as he has done throughout the season. Maybe the left foot/right foot is relevant for a 30yd plus pass, but there are not too many in a game.
I want Hughes to play, but accept, injuries aside, he won't. Maybe Glasner doesn't like the yellow cards he attracts and the resultant risk of a second. I'm clutching at straws now.
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The card thing could actually be the issue. Our midfield do get a few and Hughes generally in the first half hour which means a potential red for an hour or so. OG must feel DK can play and not have this risk so Hughes gets the super sub role on 70 odd minutes.
IMO its nothing like this, though that likely doesn't help.
Hughes and Lerma, are attack dogs, they often look good, even when they are not. Flying into tackles looks good, even if they miss them. The crowd loves the intention. (Same as a striker running all over the place trying to close down).
From a coaches perspective, this isn't always going to be what they want.
With Kamada I think he's tactically better out of possession, not tearing around everywhere, but knowing when to engage and when to hold position. He's also technically excellent. Rarely needs more than 1 touches, great weight of pass etc.
If I could be bothered and had the skill, I'd put together some video tactical examples.
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Hughes is most definitely not a fly in and kick the man up in the air merchant. He is an intelligent footballer with a decent first touch and a lot of his yellows are as a result of professional fouls where he breaks up dangerous counter attacks.
If there are concerns about red cards then he should be taken off as soon as he picks up a yellow. We have both Lerma and Kamada (and also Devenny) who can take his place, he should however start as he frees up Wharton to do his thing and as he showed when he came on against Forest, the team looks better with him on the pitch.
I’m sorry but I really do not subscribe to the idea that Kamada standing around watching is tactically astute, maybe so if we played a midfield 3, however as a two, if he doesn’t get stuck in then who does?
If there are concerns about red cards then he should be taken off as soon as he picks up a yellow. We have both Lerma and Kamada (and also Devenny) who can take his place, he should however start as he frees up Wharton to do his thing and as he showed when he came on against Forest, the team looks better with him on the pitch.
I’m sorry but I really do not subscribe to the idea that Kamada standing around watching is tactically astute, maybe so if we played a midfield 3, however as a two, if he doesn’t get stuck in then who does?
I accept points raised in the penultimate paragraph.
However, I think Kamada is a reckless tackler, on occasions approaching from the side or going to ground and sliding in leading to inevitable free kicks ( think Man C for the De Bruyne goal).
He's more reckless in the tackle than Lerma from my perspective.