Kamada will be an asset

[Spindle]

He's f***ing s***. Funny how some players get this continual backing that they'll come good but players who actually look like they have some talent are written off, like Nketiah for example.

He'll never work out, not good at anything, I prefer Schlupp.

 

[ASCPFC]

He's f***ing s***. Funny how some players get this continual backing that they'll come good but players who actually look like they have some talent are written off, like Nketiah for example.

He'll never work out, not good at anything, I prefer Schlupp.

Truth on this is, you probably have a point about Schlupp. However, when you consider it, we had Hughes available and I fail to see why Devenny doesn't get more time. Lad's done well.
Mitigation is perhaps Brighton where Kamada was quite good. I also wonder if Kamada is like De Bruyne in training.

 

[Spindle]

Truth on this is, you probably have a point about Schlupp. However, when you consider it, we had Hughes available and I fail to see why Devenny doesn't get more time. Lad's done well.
Mitigation is perhaps Brighton where Kamada was quite good. I also wonder if Kamada is like De Bruyne in training.

Deveney is a tidy player, can move, get stuck in, pass it well. Just had things to add that Kamada doesn't

 

[Casual]

I’m not a Kamada fan at all, would play Hughes instead of him every game.
Hes not worth a place in the starting eleven,but is less sh*t than when he started
But…..
Johnson was better than Henderson. Look at him now.
JPM was absolute dogsh*t for 18 months.
Hughes was pony at the start.
AJ was useless til the Brighton Hatrick.
Jedinak wasn’t good enough for ages.
Ian Wright was a super sub and never got a start.

Some players get more chances, because of how they have done in the past , Kamada/Meyer

He's f***ing s***. Funny how

some players get this continual backing that they'll come good but players who actually look like they have some talent are written off, like Nketiah for example.

He'll never work out, not good at anything, I prefer Schlupp.

 

[mart.denman]

I’m not a Kamada fan at all, would play Hughes instead of him every game.
Hes not worth a place in the starting eleven,but is less sh*t than when he started
But…..
Johnson was better than Henderson. Look at him now.
JPM was absolute dogsh*t for 18 months.
Hughes was pony at the start.
AJ was useless til the Brighton Hatrick.
Jedinak wasn’t good enough for ages.
Ian Wright was a super sub and never got a start.

Some players get more chances, because of how they have done in the past , Kamada/Meyer

Kamada just winds me up as hated him since his first game.
He doesn't bring much,
Don't run with ball, loves a back pass,
Today was his stupid challenge which gave away the free kick which completely changed the game.
Ok it could have been anyone, but it wasn't it was him.

 

[Casual]

I agree. Think he’s pony. I wouldn’t start him. If we need to sure things up I’d bring on deveney, before him. If we need a goal/assist Esse would be better. But others have took time.
No way he can start in the semi final, surely.

Kamada just winds me up as hated him since his first game.
He doesn't bring much,
Don't run with ball, loves a back pass,
Today was his stupid challenge which gave away the free kick which completely changed the game.
Ok it could have been anyone, but it wasn't it was him.

 

[thai-eagle]

I agree. Think he’s pony. I wouldn’t start him. If we need to sure things up I’d bring on deveney, before him. If we need a goal/assist Esse would be better. But others have took time.
No way he can start in the semi final, surely.

Why? What is the pupose of Kamada andwhy is OG picking him game after game? There must be someone in the Palace camp - coaches, Parish, reorter, whoever -that ask the manager about his love for the Japanese inernational. Last game (2-5) he was still on, still rubbish after JPM, Wharton, Eze and Michell were substituted. Kamada is on par with Aki A and Gabbiadini. His contributions (positive) are close to zero, running around in No-Man-Land, pushed off the ball all the time, never wins a tackle. Still, back in the line-up for the bext game - it feels like we are playing with 10 men. PS! Would think some of his teammates are pretty p...sed too...

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

We don't have Doucoure and we have been missing a centre half in recent games meaning that Lerma filled in.
If Doucoure, Hughes, Lerma and Wharton were available I don't see Kamada starting. If Doucoure does not come back to full fitness then we will need another quality midfielder next season. Kamada is not strong enough. He has improved, but he struggles with the pace and physicality of the Premier League.

 

[taylors lovechild]

I watched him when he was off the ball yesterday and he was doing a lot of pointing but often he didn't seem to be confident in where he was supposed to be and was marking space, allowing KdB to have acres of room to pick his passes, which you can't allow. Glasner has been so good for us that I keep wanting to believe he knows something we don't, but it is becoming harder and harder to see what that might be other than being tidy on the ball.

 

[GeorgeF89]

I watched him when he was off the ball yesterday and he was doing a lot of pointing but often he didn't seem to be confident in where he was supposed to be and was marking space, allowing KdB to have acres of room to pick his passes, which you can't allow. Glasner has been so good for us that I keep wanting to believe he knows something we don't, but it is becoming harder and harder to see what that might be other than being tidy on the ball.

Yep he is pony.

I was one of the few who disagreed with the delusions of fans from the last game who apparently thought Kamada was 'sensational'. He wasn't. Granted he put a performance in but some on the forums were going on like he was going to suddenly be our new CM star. LOL. I have been going Palace almost 30 years and I can see a good player from bad. We have seen him all season and he offers nothing.

Glasner needs to get rid of him as it will be his downfall otherwise.

Sub at absolute best. Starting in CM is basically a free pass for the oppo.

 

[Willo]

I watched him when he was off the ball yesterday and he was doing a lot of pointing but often he didn't seem to be confident in where he was supposed to be and was marking space, allowing KdB to have acres of room to pick his passes, which you can't allow. Glasner has been so good for us that I keep wanting to believe he knows something we don't, but it is becoming harder and harder to see what that might be other than being tidy on the ball.

Clearly we have not seen the best version of Kamada which Glasner witnessed at Eintracht Frankfurt.

In a recent conversation with some kind soul who is 'Au Fait' with the qualities of Kamada, he asserted that he described the player as a "Playmaker" and was complimentary about his ability to read the game, knowing when to expect a pass and where he's going to pass the ball to setup a teammate.

 

[PatrickA]

Yes, he conceded the free kick from which De Bruyne scored and launched the comeback.
But it was a poorly organised wall in which Wharton turned his back that enabled the goal.
The centre backs and Henderson didn't cover themselves in glory for the other goals.
Nonetheless, Kamada is the only one who gets the brickbats for yesterday.

I'm not defending Kamada, who has been poor this season, and doesn't warrant a starting place in my view, and he's unlikely to have one with players returning.

As he can't play as one of the 2 central midfield roles or one of the roles in the front 3 , he doesn't appear to be a natural fit for Glasner's system.
However, we don't have the biggest squad so he will continue to get minutes and he's more likely to contribute without the ongoing heckling.

 

[BuzzBeats]

When we play Kamada as a central midfielder, we really lack any presence in the middle of the park.

I’ve also noticed how Kamada very often over commits himself into challenges in the middle of the park that leave us totally exposed. He’ll go for a tackle that isn’t there, lose out and then he’s ahead of the ball and we’re suddenly stretched. Just hasn’t got the positional awareness to play there.

As an attacker in a ‘free’ role you can see he has potential and qualities that may one day bear fruit.

 

[Jameston88]

Weird that in Glasner's post match press conference, he openly criticised Mateta,but has never to my knowledge openly criticised Kamada.

 

[Willo]

Yes, he conceded the free kick from which De Bruyne scored and launched the comeback.
But it was a poorly organised wall in which Wharton turned his back that enabled the goal.
The centre backs and Henderson didn't cover themselves in glory for the other goals.
Nonetheless, Kamada is the only one who gets the brickbats for yesterday.

I'm not defending Kamada, who has been poor this season, and doesn't warrant a starting place in my view, and he's unlikely to have one with players returning.

As he can't play as one of the 2 central midfield roles or one of the roles in the front 3 , he doesn't appear to be a natural fit for Glasner's system.
However, we don't have the biggest squad so he will continue to get minutes and he's more likely to contribute without the ongoing heckling.

I accept that Kamada's performances have in the main been disappointing resulting in an avalanche of opprobrium but it was not too long ago that similar sentiments were raised in respect of Mateta who many deemed was not of PL standard.

I have not, at this juncture, concluded that Kamada will never be a positive influence in the team.

 

[Palacesince64]

Weird that in Glasner's post match press conference, he openly criticised Mateta,but has never to my knowledge openly criticised Kamada.

Glasner didn’t “openly criticise” Mateta. He was asked why he subbed him and gave an honest answer. Had anyone asked him about Kamada’s performance or indeed any of the rest of the team he’d have answered accordingly. I doubt there were many who would have received a positive appraisal!

I hope Kamada goes at the end of the season. He’s not performing at his best in the PL for sure, but he gets dogs abuse here for just being on the bench!

 

[ASCPFC]

Glasner didn’t “openly criticise” Mateta. He was asked why he subbed him and gave an honest answer. Had anyone asked him about Kamada’s performance or indeed any of the rest of the team he’d have answered accordingly. I doubt there were many who would have received a positive appraisal!

I hope Kamada goes at the end of the season. He’s not performing at his best in the PL for sure, but he gets dogs abuse here for just being on the bench!

The reasoning was non sensical and I find myself annoyed with Glasner for it. He said Mateta specifically didn't do enough closing down, then the team in general didn't close down well enough. Yet...
He picked Kamada who patently cannot press. And left out Hughes who is good at it. As far as I'm concerned, this is on Glasner - which I think he's kind of admitted.
I'm once again reminded of Kamada fully closing a goalie down but then just standing there looking to Glasner for instruction. Not the first time he'd done that either. The free kick where Glasner had to tell him what to do. Which was embarrassing and, frankly, pathetic. Not what I want in a team.
If you want to press, and moan about our press, then perhaps pick players able to do that.
I'm presuming Ollie has learnt something but if he's learnt that some of the team are unhappy with a teammate - he's learnt the wrong lesson.
My guess on Mateta's substitution was his clear pop at Kamada. I also reckon Hughes not playing was that he's said something similar. We've seen it with Holding - there is no going against the party line. I agree largely with Holding - as he's s***. However, Mateta and Hughes both mean miles miles more to the team than Kamada, in my opinion.
Let's put it this way - would we lose anything if Kamada were not here? For a start we'd save 95k a week and we could use Devenny. And I'll put this on record - past performances in Germany are meaningless. No team can afford to lose points to let someone integrate. The Premier league is either integrate quickly or f*** off. Just the way that it is. Better players than Kamada have come and gone double quick. Devenny is better despite Kamada's pedigree. The evidence of it in front of my face - rather than some future "might be" will suffice.

 

[SnapperKain]

Let's put it this way - would we lose anything if Kamada were not here? For a start we'd save 95k a week and we could use Devenny.

Actually, I think you've hit the nail bang on the head here. If Kamada did his hamstring or something and wasn't available for a month, would we even notice beyond breathing a sigh of relief? When he was banned for that red card, I can't once think of a game when I thought "oh we really could have done with Kamada there".

I know there's a sentiment that he might come good some day and I could agree with that with someone coming through the academy like Devenny or Kphora, but with someone with years of experience and on £95k a week? Nah, I don't think so.

 

[Willo]

Kamada has played in over 125 games in the 'Bundesliga' and in nearly 30 games in 'Serie A', accordingly it would appear that we have not seen the best version of him. Perhaps he can be filed under 'Slow Burner'.

 

[PatrickA]

Kamada has played in over 125 games in the 'Bundesliga' and in nearly 30 games in 'Serie A', accordingly it would appear that we have not seen the best version of him. Perhaps he can be filed under 'Slow Burner'.

I would come at it from a slightly different perspective.

If Kamada returned to the Bundesliga or Serie A he may well flourish in those environments as he has done in the past.

However, the Premier League presents a different series of challenges for players, even if they have thrived in overseas leagues previously.
Not all succeed over here.

From what I’ve observed Kamada has reasonable control and movement, but doesn’t influence proceedings in any meaningful way( some may dispute this with the free kick concession yesterday).

To use the acid test employed by Pulis with regard to players,
‘What does he give me?’

The answer at the moment has to be , ‘not a lot.’