Teddy Eagle
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It was just a comment on football finances in general but fair enough if it's not strange to give someone a lottery win a year for not doing anything in particular.
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Kamada will be an asset
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I thought they were? EMR say there is a 2 year waiting list.
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grumpymort
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As I said before that is down to fans its why so much money is in the game.
It's nothing like a lottery win not sure how you can even compare that (maybe you should train for a sporting event and you will get a partial experience)
To be a professional sports person means you have to dedicate your life to that & for football this starts at a very early age.
Teddy Eagle
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I didn't compare the effort or dedication involved. It's like a lottery win because £3 m a year is the equivalent of a lottery win.
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It's not down to fans quite clearly. It's players, agents and TV money. Fans think footballers earn too much - and they do. Fans have no control over the game these days.
think Meyer was on £125k a week and Kamada £105k.
The discrepancies are often as the club/agent might ask for a bosman bonus or a relocation fee. The club will no doubt divide it over the contract, but i suspect it is a guaranteed amount that must be paid.
Sol Campbell had a £10m 'bosman' fee paid over his 5 year contract at Arsenal, so £40k a week extra (on top of his £60k salary) and Klinsmann at Spurs was given a relocation fee so his wages stayed within the club's wage structure.
If these deals were happening 20 years ago it is clear they will be common place today.
Meyer was a disaster - cost the club over £20m in total - so let's not say we got him for 'free'.
Kamada is clearly over paid, and i suspect that's why the club only gave him a 2 year contract.
Incidentally i suspect Lerma's reported £70k a week is on the low side as i suspect his agent has added on a bosman bonus. Else why would he come to us when he was already on £50k a Bournemouth.
I avoid television usually has this Bosman replaced Bruce Forsyth.
If fans stopped paying for TV subscriptions en masse then football wages would halve overnight. Fans may say they think footballers earn too much but fans also continue to do the things that make this happen.
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I’ve been re-reading this thread to see how comments have aged. Generally the swing is towards Kamada not being up to it at all at this level.
I think his only tenable position is as one of a forward three in a 4-3-3 and as we don’t play that formation he shouldn’t be in the team at all. He is a total liability in midfield.
I think his only tenable position is as one of a forward three in a 4-3-3 and as we don’t play that formation he shouldn’t be in the team at all. He is a total liability in midfield.
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Teddy Eagle
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They do, don't they?
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The EPL is a Global business.
Even if there was a major downturn in UK subscriptions the money would still come rolling in.
Even if there was a major downturn in UK subscriptions the money would still come rolling in.
Daichi Kamada is an attacking midfielder by trade. Why Glasner uses him in other positions where he is of less use is baffling. Saturday being a prime example using Kamada as any type of defensive midfielder was a disaster.
He would have been much better playing further forward closer to Mateta.
In terms of Kamada's salary players that are signed out of contract and no transfer fee has been paid to a club for them always receive a higher % salary.
As for the racial abuse, which has absolutely no place in football anywhere in the world. I hope it can be traced and found not to be from an actual 'Palace supporter' as thay would only brings shame on us all.
He would have been much better playing further forward closer to Mateta.
In terms of Kamada's salary players that are signed out of contract and no transfer fee has been paid to a club for them always receive a higher % salary.
As for the racial abuse, which has absolutely no place in football anywhere in the world. I hope it can be traced and found not to be from an actual 'Palace supporter' as thay would only brings shame on us all.
I also heard many of the home fans cheering loudly when Kamada was sent off. That really surprised me.
I had been going to Rapid Vienna for decades, both home and away. Their fans are notorious, including for occasionally loudly criticizing their own team's poor performances. Several times I've heard the whole ground chanting “We want to see Rapid” (and I've joined in) when performances on the pitch have been poor. But I've never heard an individual player from the team you support being cheered when he was sent off, and I don't understand that, even if I do understand the disappointment at his performance and the poor performance of the whole team that day.
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And that choice was made by fans?
Our very own fanatics protested the paying for football on TV.
The fans would prefer football on free to air TV. Do they have that choice?
Not directly of course. But indirectly yes. If enough people refuse to pay for Sky and TNT then their revenue would collapse and they wouldn’t bid for the Preimer League rights or would bid at a much lower level. That would lower the cost of the rights and mean free to air broadcasters could afford them. It’s just a market and the consumers ultimately determine price and value in that market.
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That could be true - I'd largely agree but it would be after the fact. The original choice was made by The Premier League. There was probably some token fan involvement but they weren't listened to. Fans aren't going to choose to have to pay, or pay more, and fans don't clamour for footballers to get high wages.
Yes I agree. Nobody wants to pay increasing amounts just to be able to watch football. If enough actually put up with it and do pay though then prices will keep going up
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I'll be honest. I think Kamada could be the first Palace player I was pleased to see get a straight red.
He is a Glasner choice and a bad one. What makes matters worse is that he is generally played deeper than he wants. If he doesn't replace Eze then he shouldn't be on the field. Doucoure, Hughes and Devenney will have carry the load until Lerma and Wharton get fit.
This is what concerns me. Glasner is a good guy and a good manager, but he has no experience of a Premier League dog fight. You can't always play expansive football. Sometimes you have to defend first, stay solid and attack with caution. We have lost games where we should have got points.
It looks like we will be one of 6 teams who can go down, and right now we are one of the favourites. We have to get points against the teams around us. A stronger squad would help. Eze, Sarr and Nketiah are simply not enough.
He is a Glasner choice and a bad one. What makes matters worse is that he is generally played deeper than he wants. If he doesn't replace Eze then he shouldn't be on the field. Doucoure, Hughes and Devenney will have carry the load until Lerma and Wharton get fit.
This is what concerns me. Glasner is a good guy and a good manager, but he has no experience of a Premier League dog fight. You can't always play expansive football. Sometimes you have to defend first, stay solid and attack with caution. We have lost games where we should have got points.
It looks like we will be one of 6 teams who can go down, and right now we are one of the favourites. We have to get points against the teams around us. A stronger squad would help. Eze, Sarr and Nketiah are simply not enough.