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Is Glasner the problem?

Lanzo-Ad said:
It is great news if true, Glasner needs the players for his tactics to work, but we have 8 matches before the Jan window opens, by that time we could be adrift and Glasner will have 18 months left on his contract, i hope, but don't see the board splashing the cash, unless a couple of the high value players leave, in short at least 8 points is needed in the next 8 matches to stay in touch
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Glasner's position could of course become untenable should we fail to retain the requisite points and we find ourselves rooted firmly in the 'Relegation Zone' several points away from safety.

I believe that the scenario whereby he will still be in situ even if results to the end of the year are disappointing pending a splurge in the January 'Window' is I would suggest somewhat fanciful.
 
It seems likely that a lot of our transfer business was predicated on the gamble of Newcastle caving in and paying the asking price for Guehi and had brought in replacements/cover expecting him to leave.
He might well go in January when we'll have LaCroix, Richards & Riad, who is something of an unknown entity.
If that combination doesn't work would Glasner persist with the current tactics or adjust them to suit the players we have or have brought in? Only time will tell.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
It seems likely that a lot of our transfer business was predicated on the gamble of Newcastle caving in and paying the asking price for Guehi and had brought in replacements/cover expecting him to leave.
He might well go in January when we'll have LaCroix, Richards & Riad, who is something of an unknown entity.
If that combination doesn't work would Glasner persist with the current tactics or adjust them to suit the players we have or have brought in? Only time will tell.
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Richards has not played a game for the club for 2 months.
Riad has only played in 1 PL game.
 
Willo said:
Glasner's position could of course become untenable should we fail to retain the requisite points and we find ourselves rooted firmly in the 'Relegation Zone' several points away from safety.

I believe that the scenario whereby he will still be in situ even if results to the end of the year are disappointing pending a splurge in the January 'Window' is I would suggest somewhat fanciful.
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Your final paragraph raises a valid point.

Perhaps the current transfer planning for the window has 2 plans;

Plan A with Glasner at the helm
Plan B with a new manager in post if the results between now and January are poor.


If Glasner remains in place a move for Chilwell makes sense as an attacking LWB.
However, it may not makes sense if a new manager is in place who favours a flat back 4 and is happy with Mitchell in this role.

Furthermore, none of us know what finances are available, and whether it would be necessary to sell to raise funds if we wanted to make expensive purchases to bolster our forward options.
Lots of unknowns.
 
PatrickA said:
Your final paragraph raises a valid point.

Perhaps the current transfer planning for the window has 2 plans;

Plan A with Glasner at the helm
Plan B with a new manager in post if the results between now and January are poor.


If Glasner remains in place a move for Chilwell makes sense as an attacking LWB.
However, it may not makes sense if a new manager is in place who favours a flat back 4 and is happy with Mitchell in this role.

Furthermore, none of us know what finances are available, and whether it would be necessary to sell to raise funds if we wanted to make expensive purchases to bolster our forward options.
Lots of unknowns.
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Indeed, and therefore speculation is merely that, speculation. The reality on the ground is that the club needs points on the board. Given the overall current predicament I can't see where they are coming from. Actually from the beginning of the season, with those players departed, those players brought in, the lack of sufficient time for them to gel, and now a long list of injuries and the side sitting uncomfortably in the relegation zone, I thought "This is it, this is the season we go down." A pessimistic outlook to be sure, and it needs something special for us to dig ourselves out of this hole we have made for ourselves.
Miracles do happen.
 
PatrickA said:
Your final paragraph raises a valid point.

Perhaps the current transfer planning for the window has 2 plans;

Plan A with Glasner at the helm
Plan B with a new manager in post if the results between now and January are poor.


If Glasner remains in place a move for Chilwell makes sense as an attacking LWB.
However, it may not makes sense if a new manager is in place who favours a flat back 4 and is happy with Mitchell in this role.

Furthermore, none of us know what finances are available, and whether it would be necessary to sell to raise funds if we wanted to make expensive purchases to bolster our forward options.
Lots of unknowns.
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An in-form Chilwell would certainly fit the bill but he's reportedly on £200,000 a week and is contracted for another 3 years. If Chelsea want to cut their losses and he'd accept whatever we can pay he's a possibility but he also ruptured his cruciate a couple of seasons ago which may be an issue with our injury record.
 
PatrickA said:
Your final paragraph raises a valid point.

Perhaps the current transfer planning for the window has 2 plans;

Plan A with Glasner at the helm
Plan B with a new manager in post if the results between now and January are poor.


If Glasner remains in place a move for Chilwell makes sense as an attacking LWB.
However, it may not makes sense if a new manager is in place who favours a flat back 4 and is happy with Mitchell in this role.

Furthermore, none of us know what finances are available, and whether it would be necessary to sell to raise funds if we wanted to make expensive purchases to bolster our forward options.
Lots of unknowns.
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Transfer planning. You're funny 🤣
 
NEILLO said:
And the above is one of the reasons why Glasner has earned more time.

We can all be wise after the event, but I don't recall widespread discontent at the decisions to let Ayew, Edouard and Ahamada leave. Financially understandable as well. Ozoh and JRS were allowed to leave to continue their development.

Olise, out of our hands as you say. Andersen becomes more understandable as time goes by and Lacroix settles in. Chalobah was welcomed as a quality addition.

However, the other incomers are where the problems are. Kamada is fairly and squarely on Glasner. Nketiah and Sarr on the club - in my opinion.

It's hard to see a way back for Kamada, but the other two have a better chance in time given that they are at least used to playing at this level. Neither had a pre season and it's to be hoped that they can turn current form around.
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This is a fair summary. There has to b a collective responsibility for the mistakes made in the summer including SP and the board, Dougie Freeman, and Glasner. Added to this we’ve not had the rub of the green with injuries, loss of form, and some dubious refereeing decisions! Injuries heal and form can change quickly. Our luck will turn and if all three work to rectify the mistakes of the summer in January we will have a strong second half of the season and most likely finish in our usual place.
The biggest risk to Glasner is unrest on the terraces. If that happens and the club needs a scapegoat, rest assured it won’t be SP or DF!
 
Palacesince64 said:
This is a fair summary. There has to b a collective responsibility for the mistakes made in the summer including SP and the board, Dougie Freeman, and Glasner. Added to this we’ve not had the rub of the green with injuries, loss of form, and some dubious refereeing decisions! Injuries heal and form can change quickly. Our luck will turn and if all three work to rectify the mistakes of the summer in January we will have a strong second half of the season and most likely finish in our usual place.
The biggest risk to Glasner is unrest on the terraces. If that happens and the club needs a scapegoat, rest assured it won’t be SP or DF!
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A very well reasoned post and agreed the media noises and terraces seem to be where the unrest is germinating.

Bottom line is we signed three forward players (Sarr; Nketiah; Kamada). None of them have scored in the league this year. So we have struggled for points purely because of goals scored. Fix that and we fix our form.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
An in-form Chilwell would certainly fit the bill but he's reportedly on £200,000 a week and is contracted for another 3 years. If Chelsea want to cut their losses and he'd accept whatever we can pay he's a possibility but he also ruptured his cruciate a couple of seasons ago which may be an issue with our injury record.
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Clickbait has been mentioning Chilwell, but, they are also mentioning Mudryk . . . Crystal Palace make approach over signing Chelsea flop on loan

Anyone see the 'flaw' in these?
 
dreamwaverider said:
One big difference from us to Brighton is that Tony Bloom is like a successful second hand car trader, he buys and sells fast and efficiently. We are like some kind of second hand furniture salesman who hoards most of their stock which anyway drops in value.
Plus, Bloom is a billionaire and owns the club outright.
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You need to check your facts, Bloom has never been involved in the motor trade.
 
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