Is Glasner the problem?

[premier fan]

I just read an online article (sorry I dont know how to put it up on here) written by a Journalist that has close contacts at Palace.
The gist is that the club have no intention of removing Glasner and are instead fully focussed on rectifying mistakes made in the last transfer window.
It looks like rather than sack him they are preparing to spend in January.

Great news if true.
There are a number of variables affecting our position. We’re also one win away from climbing a couple of places. So a few positive results and we’re making progress.
The two week break will serve us well - come back and put a spurs type performance on Newcastle and then turnover Ipswich.
Yes, I’m being positive but I’m sure we’ll get through this sooner or later.

 

[Painter]

I just read an online article (sorry I dont know how to put it up on here) written by a Journalist that has close contacts at Palace.
The gist is that the club have no intention of removing Glasner and are instead fully focussed on rectifying mistakes made in the last transfer window.
It looks like rather than sack him they are preparing to spend in January.

Sounds like the dreaded vote of confidence.

No positive results by Xmas and he will be gone.

 

[Palacesince64]

Bein sport is an illegal channel, there is no link, but the interview is also on some European channels apparently which i didn't see, but i saw the Bein sports link

As I recall he said he didn’t think tactics were the problem. It was mentality due to lack of confidence leading to few goals, therefore he didn’t believe 4-4-2 was the answer to the problem.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

As I recall he said he didn’t think tactics were the problem. It was mentality due to lack of confidence leading to few goals, therefore he didn’t believe 4-4-2 was the answer to the problem.

You are correct he did say that, and also That the tactics he prefers he will stick with.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Great news if true.
There are a number of variables affecting our position. We’re also one win away from climbing a couple of places. So a few positive results and we’re making progress.
The two week break will serve us well - come back and put a spurs type performance on Newcastle and then turnover Ipswich.
Yes, I’m being positive but I’m sure we’ll get through this sooner or later.

It is great news if true, Glasner needs the players for his tactics to work, but we have 8 matches before the Jan window opens, by that time we could be adrift and Glasner will have 18 months left on his contract, i hope, but don't see the board splashing the cash, unless a couple of the high value players leave, in short at least 8 points is needed in the next 8 matches to stay in touch

 

[Vaibow]

My question, will the club say what those mistakes in the summer were, learn from them and rectify in what way?

We sold Anderson and Eyew when we didn't need to.

 

[dreamwaverider]

We must be cash positive and I would also sell Kamada. He has only had a couple of ok matches as he seems to get played out of position most of the time. (Which in itself is very odd.)
I doubt anyone would come close to his salary but even half of it would save us some money.
We desperately need a left back and two goal scorers.
Sell Nketiah and buy a right winger.

 

[dreamwaverider]

One big difference from us to Brighton is that Tony Bloom is like a successful second hand car trader, he buys and sells fast and efficiently. We are like some kind of second hand furniture salesman who hoards most of their stock which anyway drops in value.
Plus, Bloom is a billionaire and owns the club outright.

 

[PatrickA]

My question, will the club say what those mistakes in the summer were, learn from them and rectify in what way?

We sold Anderson and Eyew when we didn't need to.

In terms of mistakes in the summer, there is at least some information in the public domain.

Firstly, Glasner has made his feelings clear about bringing four players at the end of the window losing the opportunity for them to participate in training and integrate.

Secondly, both Glasner and Parish made clear in the summer about the desire to add more cover at LWB and this didn’t happen.

There may be additional mistakes acknowledged by the club that I have missed.

Olise seems to have been out of the club’s hands and I assume Anderson , Edouard, Ayew, Ahamada, JRS and Ozoh would not have departed without Glasner’s approval.

In an interview in the summer Glasner said ,as Olise couldn’t be replaced directly, the decision was taken to bring in 2 players i.e a technical one in Kamada and a more pacy direction option in Sarr who would both be used depending upon the opposition.

Clearly at the moment that strategy has not worked.
They have had minimal impact on games where they have featured , and the same could be said about Nketiah.
The return of Eze and Wharton may lead to enhanced contributions from Nketiah and Sarr, but there’s no guarantee of that.

 

[JHB]

In terms of mistakes in the summer, there is at least some information in the public domain.

Firstly, Glasner has made his feelings clear about bringing four players at the end of the window losing the opportunity for them to participate in training and integrate.

Secondly, both Glasner and Parish made clear in the summer about the desire to add more cover at LWB and this didn’t happen.

There may be additional mistakes acknowledged by the club that I have missed.

Olise seems to have been out of the club’s hands and I assume Anderson , Edouard, Ayew, Ahamada, JRS and Ozoh would not have departed without Glasner’s approval.

In an interview in the summer Glasner said ,as Olise couldn’t be replaced directly, the decision was taken to bring in 2 players i.e a technical one in Kamada and a more pacy direction option in Sarr who would both be used depending upon the opposition.

Clearly at the moment that strategy has not worked.
They have had minimal impact on games where they have featured , and the same could be said about Nketiah.
The return of Eze and Wharton may lead to enhanced contributions from Nketiah and Sarr, but there’s no guarantee of that.

Sarr and Nketiah are playing to the level of their whole careers. Neither is a youngster with lots of upside. These are the players they are. Sarr I can understand as a purchase but he should have been as a squad player. Nketiah I don’t understand at all. £25m for a player with a poor goal scoring record who isn’t good enough to feature in our best eleven. Really poor piece of business

 

[HKOwen]

It is great news if true, Glasner needs the players for his tactics to work, but we have 8 matches before the Jan window opens, by that time we could be adrift and Glasner will have 18 months left on his contract, i hope, but don't see the board splashing the cash, unless a couple of the high value players leave, in short at least 8 points is needed in the next 8 matches to stay in touch

Hard to see 6 points more before year end

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Hard to see 6 points more before year end

Sadly yes

 

[NEILLO]

Bein sport is an illegal channel, there is no link, but the interview is also on some European channels apparently which i didn't see, but i saw the Bein sports link

Oh !

How convenient / inconvenient *

* delete as applicable

 

[MrRobbo]

My question, will the club say what those mistakes in the summer were, learn from them and rectify in what way?

We sold Anderson and Eyew when we didn't need to.

It was good business, and Lacroix looks ace. To keep pinning the current issues selling these 2 players is madness.

 

[Badger11]

My question, will the club say what those mistakes in the summer were, learn from them and rectify in what way?

We sold Anderson and Eyew when we didn't need to.

Still at least we kept Tigger. 😀

 

[NEILLO]

In terms of mistakes in the summer, there is at least some information in the public domain.

Firstly, Glasner has made his feelings clear about bringing four players at the end of the window losing the opportunity for them to participate in training and integrate.

Secondly, both Glasner and Parish made clear in the summer about the desire to add more cover at LWB and this didn’t happen.

There may be additional mistakes acknowledged by the club that I have missed.

Olise seems to have been out of the club’s hands and I assume Anderson , Edouard, Ayew, Ahamada, JRS and Ozoh would not have departed without Glasner’s approval.

In an interview in the summer Glasner said ,as Olise couldn’t be replaced directly, the decision was taken to bring in 2 players i.e a technical one in Kamada and a more pacy direction option in Sarr who would both be used depending upon the opposition.

Clearly at the moment that strategy has not worked.
They have had minimal impact on games where they have featured , and the same could be said about Nketiah.
The return of Eze and Wharton may lead to enhanced contributions from Nketiah and Sarr, but there’s no guarantee of that.

And the above is one of the reasons why Glasner has earned more time.

We can all be wise after the event, but I don't recall widespread discontent at the decisions to let Ayew, Edouard and Ahamada leave. Financially understandable as well. Ozoh and JRS were allowed to leave to continue their development.

Olise, out of our hands as you say. Andersen becomes more understandable as time goes by and Lacroix settles in. Chalobah was welcomed as a quality addition.

However, the other incomers are where the problems are. Kamada is fairly and squarely on Glasner. Nketiah and Sarr on the club - in my opinion.

It's hard to see a way back for Kamada, but the other two have a better chance in time given that they are at least used to playing at this level. Neither had a pre season and it's to be hoped that they can turn current form around.

 

[JHB]

It was good business, and Lacroix looks ace. To keep pinning the current issues selling these 2 players is madness.

I don’t think anyone is putting all the blame on selling those two. I think it is difficult to argue though that them out and the players we got in have made the squad anything but weaker.

As I have said the issue isn’t Lacroix vs Andersen. The issue is we broke up an effective and key partnership at the back and did it with the most disruptive timing possible. I am also convinced Lacroix was intended to be a Guehi replacement not an Andersen one. His attributes are much more similar to Guehi and we have lost Andersen’s passing from the back which was so important. While our back three is taking shape and we aren’t conceding a lot, we are much less effective in passing out and building attacks.

As for Ayew. Not a starter but contributed more than any of Sarr, Nketiah and Kamada. We could have kept him and invested the £40m we’ve sunk into those three into somebody who actually makes the team better.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Still at least we kept Tigger. 😀

And a couple who are complete Pooh.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Oh !

How convenient / inconvenient *

* delete as applicable

Are you calling me a liar, because i am to you, i have seen it, just because you havent and many have is not my fault

 

[Willo]

Hard to see 6 points more before year end

At the end of the year we will have played 19 League games.

Should we not attain 6 pts in the remaining 8 matches this will equate to less than 13 pts for the season and we will be well and truly in the mire staring forlornly at the relegation trapdoor.