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Is Glasner the problem?

I'm thinking Glasner has possibly turned a corner now. I imagine he learned far more during this bad run of results that he'd ever learn about this team, its character and capabilities when everything is going well. We rode our luck last night at times and I thought Kamada was awful right up to about ten minutes before he scored. Hopefully that goal may also be a turning point.
I've been too busy today to look up any news. Does anyone know the status of Eze or Wharton? To lose both for the Wolves game is a big blow but we saw the game out at Villa without them last night so hopefully they will be lifted by that knowledge.
If we can keep the press high and keep it in Wolves half as much as possible we will give them problems.
 
Looks like Eze and Wharton will miss Wolves.
Eze hamstring and Wharton groin.
I really think the medical people should get Wharton operated on once and for all.
 
Looks like things are improving.

Didn't agree with the subs Clyne and Schlupp coming on think he should have played Agbinone and F. Umeh to give them minutes. I know Glasner has gone with experience but Clynes not a attacker and Schlupp looks like he's been eating 1 or 2 pie's.
 
He might not be all of the problem but he clearly isn’t the solution either. For whatever reasons there was clearly a breakdown in the summer between what he wanted in terms of players and what he got. It’s now too late to give him the players he wants so I think we have to bring in somebody who can get something more from the players we have. That is clearly very harsh on OG but we are where we are and that is being in desperate trouble. Something has got to change
 
JHB said:
He might not be all of the problem but he clearly isn’t the solution either. For whatever reasons there was clearly a breakdown in the summer between what he wanted in terms of players and what he got. It’s now too late to give him the players he wants so I think we have to bring in somebody who can get something more from the players we have. That is clearly very harsh on OG but we are where we are and that is being in desperate trouble. Something has got to change
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Who would you bring in?
 
JHB said:
Good question. At this point I am not sure it is so important who it is just that we make a change to galvanise us. Well I say that but so long as it’s not Pardew …
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You see, you don't actually know, and that's not a criticism of your opinion, just like many others you are confused and upset by the current predicament, particularly when last season we finished in such splendid style - I heard no such criticism of Glasner then.
But stand back and take a look at what happened close season and the usual suspects emerge - Parish and Freedman, with a rash of poor signings, late signings, releasing players who it might have been wise to hold onto, holding onto the wrong players, lack of a proper pre-season etc etc.
And it's not just Glasner who has been stymied, all our recent managers have had to deal with these two clowns in one way or the other. One could say "Well, that's the nature of it" and yes it is, but don't blame the manager too much.
Personally I think it would be a big mistake to get rid of Glasner now. We beat Spurs, remember?
 
I think Glasner is the closest we've come to the real thing in a long time (and that includes Roy). A proven manager that has recently won at least one major trophy. I believe that he can turn this round and I remember the end of last season as perhaps the best I have seen Palace play over a run of 7 games in the top division.

He joined us before he thought he would and missed out on a pre-season. Similarly this year the pre-season was disjointed with some top players either leaving or missing. Plus new players coming in after the season started. This has to have a major affect on a club like ours with a usually "thin" squad.

As for purchases, I suspect he had little or no involvement in Sarr and Nketiah who we seem to have been after for years. Neither has shone yet. Kamada and Lecroix were probably signed on his recommendation or at his request. Kamada has been a big disappointment so far but, apart from today's glaring error, Lecroix is looking the real deal. I am prepared to consider Glasner in credit on those deals and maybe Kamada will still come good.

I thought we looked good against spurs and should have won at wolves. I think if we could have put out a better team today, then we would be saying that we have turned a corner.

I think there will be at least 3 teams worse than us this year - Ipswich, Southampton, Leicester, Everton, Wolves to name a few. I believe that we will still finish in the 12th-15th range this season. Some will say that is not good enough but I would not be considering a replacement (please god not Southgate) until well into the New Year.
 
Is Glasner a good manager?
His track record at previous clubs would say yes, and he's also had Palace playing some of our best football.

Is Glasner the right manager for a struggling Premier League team?

Now that's a different question.

It seems for him to get results everything has to click.
Players fit and in form, the system working like a well oiled machine.
He's not a manager to grind out results, defending for 89 minutes and scoring a fluky goal.
I'm not suggesting that I would prefer that, just making the observation.

We have very good defenders now, but I felt more confident of keeping a clean sheet under Pulis.
We have expensive forwards now who don't seem to know what to do with the ball in the final third.
We are not efficient in either penalty area which makes it very difficult to win games, even if it produces the occasional draw.
 
park the bus said:
You see, you don't actually know, and that's not a criticism of your opinion, just like many others you are confused and upset by the current predicament, particularly when last season we finished in such splendid style - I heard no such criticism of Glasner then.
But stand back and take a look at what happened close season and the usual suspects emerge - Parish and Freedman, with a rash of poor signings, late signings, releasing players who it might have been wise to hold onto, holding onto the wrong players, lack of a proper pre-season etc etc.
And it's not just Glasner who has been stymied, all our recent managers have had to deal with these two clowns in one way or the other. One could say "Well, that's the nature of it" and yes it is, but don't blame the manager too much.
Personally I think it would be a big mistake to get rid of Glasner now. We beat Spurs, remember?
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As I say I don’t necessarily blame him for where we are and I am very critical of our summer transfer business. Unfortunately though we can’t change that now and we have to look at getting the best set of results from where we are.

As somebody else has said it’s not a question of whether OG is a good manager as whether he is the right manager for the current situation and squad we have. So far the evidence is that he isn’t. We can’t just keep doing what we are doing as that will get us relegated, which would be a disaster for a club like us.

The only thing we can change at this stage is the manager. Does that make OG a bit of an unfair victim of circumstances? Quite probably. Is doing nothing an option? Not really
 
JHB said:
As I say I don’t necessarily blame him for where we are and I am very critical of our summer transfer business. Unfortunately though we can’t change that now and we have to look at getting the best set of results from where we are.

As somebody else has said it’s not a question of whether OG is a good manager as whether he is the right manager for the current situation and squad we have. So far the evidence is that he isn’t. We can’t just keep doing what we are doing as that will get us relegated, which would be a disaster for a club like us.

The only thing we can change at this stage is the manager. Does that make OG a bit of an unfair victim of circumstances? Quite probably. Is doing nothing an option? Not really
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But you still can't name a replacement.
I would say that any manager who has the quality and experience to find a way out of this self made mess will probably be asking for sizable transfer funds, a say on who comes in, and more than likely, is already employed. Which leaves the others. Don't say Moyes please.
 
park the bus said:
But you still can't name a replacement.
I would say that any manager who has the quality and experience to find a way out of this self made mess will probably be asking for sizable transfer funds, a say on who comes in, and more than likely, is already employed. Which leaves the others. Don't say Moyes please.
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I feel about as enthusiastic about Moyes’ style as you do but I also think if we had him we’d have more points than we do right now. At the moment we are getting less than a point a game. In terms of results it cannot get much worse so while somebody like Moyes would be met with a collective groan it would almost certainly be more effective. We can’t just persist with something that is failing and one of our worst starts ever because we don’t have a perfect alternative
 
I'm not gonna knock Glasner today, we have 9 players injured and have been let down by SP not recruiting the players we needed ie a good number 10.

Should have brought smith-rowe, Hudson and decent backups for RWB n LWB

It's gonna be a tough season
 
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