Glasner Out

How about suspended on full pay pending a club investigation into potential gross misconduct?

That would show how seriously the club take his behaviour and the damage it has done to the football club and our prospects for the rest of the year and in terms of player retention and recruitment beyond that

There should be non-disparagement clauses in his relating to conduct - they are pretty standard especially with jobs with media facing duties

I expect Parish is checking through these options with the lawyers though whether he would implement such an action would take careful thought and agreement with the majority shareholders

Could do without something like that hanging around unresolved.
Clean cut is needed ,he leaves or he stays .
After the interview and because of that interview I’m for him leaving .
 
Glasner publicly said when he arrived that he'd told Parish he didn't come to the club if its only ambition was consolidation. True to his word, when the club failed to invest in the squad in the summer he decided they were unwilling or unable to match that ambition and he told them he would leave at the end of the season. I imagine this came after the club looked to replace Eze on the cheap. Glasner's exit would probably have ended amicably were it not for the lack of investment resulting in us ending up with only 12 fit senior players and our form plummeting. We didn't stop winning because Glasner's tactics were found out, we stopped winning because we only had one player left on the pitch who could score, and he is carrying a knee injury.

I've always backed Glasner because it's hard to argue against the success he has brought us, and all while playing pretty decent football, but I can't understand what yesterday's outburst achieves for anyone. He seems to have real issues with accepting defeat, which in some ways is probably behind his success, but right now the fans needed some calm-headedness after a turbulent 24 hours and he let us down. Given the circumstances, he has put himself in an untenable position, whether intentionally or not.

While a lot of disgruntlement will be targeted at Glasner today, the sad fact is the club have made a right hash of their transfer business this season. If you don't have much money was it really the best decision to sign two players with no experience (Uche and Canvot)? To sign a left-back who has been out of form for two years? To sign a right winger to replace a left-sided attacking midfielder? What should have been an amazing year for us has been let down by poor decisions and now we will have to try and limp over the line. If the board also decide to sell JP this month then they might want to stay away from the ground for a few months.
When did we last play pretty decent football, its been slow and turgid this season, same plug and play 3 at the back even when we didn't have the players to play that way, even yesterday chasing the game he sat on his hands and watched them dominate us,
 
We spent £26m on a Spain international. Ok he’s struggled but it’s not like we replaced Eze with a teenager from the academy. What did people expect? That we went and invested £50m on a player? That was never going to happen.

If OG said we should have had more cover at RWB and a back up for JPM then I’d agree. Continuing to raise Eze, a player who wanted to go, we got a record fee for and replaced with a player who has more international caps and more international goals than Eze is not really a great case.
We had Kporha and then Cardines on the bench that could have come on for 15-20 mins here and there to ease munoz load, cardines has no prem minutes,
 
We spent £26m on a Spain international. Ok he’s struggled but it’s not like we replaced Eze with a teenager from the academy. What did people expect? That we went and invested £50m on a player? That was never going to happen.

If OG said we should have had more cover at RWB and a back up for JPM then I’d agree. Continuing to raise Eze, a player who wanted to go, we got a record fee for and replaced with a player who has more international caps and more international goals than Eze is not really a great case.
No, I don't think anyone expected a £50m spend on one player.

And you can't like for like replace Eze.

As for Pino, the following is an interesting read ;

 
I thought Glasner's comments were remarkably open and honest (in his opinion). It's refreshing to see a Manager pulling no punches. You can't build a racing car when some of the tyres are worn, and someone's stolen your engine.
Football is a rather unique business, where heart often rules the head. I still think Glasner is the best option for seeing out the season, because getting someone else at short notice is going to be a panic solution. A big wedge of luck would be needed.
I've said worse to my bosses, to their face(s). Some bosses left before me, sometimes I was out the door soon after.
Whatever happens next is going to be great viewing. I'm thinking retaining Glasner at this point might be difficult, only because of the reactions of Palace fans on match days.
At least it's distracted me from issues like Greenland and Starmer. Palace is far more interesting 😀
 
You make some valid points about his recent record and his petulance.

My point related to the fact he's gone from being viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst person in the world in two short months which seems a tad excessive.

And standing back from the situation, do you genuinely believe the squad he has been given is fit for purpose over a 60 plus game season?
Not everyone thought that, yes the squad was the greatest thing since sliced bread, the manager is a seriously different matter, it was always going to end in tears, is this the moment i said i told you all six months ago, probably not
 
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Could do without something like that hanging around unresolved.
Clean cut is needed ,he leaves or he stays .
After the interview and because of that interview I’m for him leaving .
And, when Eze left, Glasner was critical of his weaknesses. Do a deal with Frank, put Glasner on ‘gardening leave’ until the end of the season and stuff Spurs!
 
I am not angry at Glasner or parish. When Glasner arrived I am not the only one that thought this could be a highly successful appointment with risks of it later on falling apart, he has a track record of both. He used us to leverage his platform after unceremoniously leaving his last job. He achieved that and more and now wants a big club move. He kept raising the pressure on the club to succeed and outgrew the owners who feel we need to develop the stadium to survive.

Selling Guehi I am still not seeing the benefit at just £20m. Surely the different between 4th from bottom and potential top 8 as well as European adventure outweighs the £20m. I feel there is more to come from this story. The problem with Glasner going and some saying get paddy in is we lose all our coaches with Glasner. Tough few weeks ahead and can only hope Parish has a good contingency plan
 
We spent £26m on a Spain international. Ok he’s struggled but it’s not like we replaced Eze with a teenager from the academy. What did people expect? That we went and invested £50m on a player? That was never going to happen.

If OG said we should have had more cover at RWB and a back up for JPM then I’d agree. Continuing to raise Eze, a player who wanted to go, we got a record fee for and replaced with a player who has more international caps and more international goals than Eze is not really a great case.
We replaced Eze with a player who doesn't even play in his position. We got over £60 million for Eze and Pino (apparently) only cost £21 million (with the rest being add ons) and who has a completely different profile. The club then spent £35 million on Johnson in January, so we clearly had more money, plus we already have Sarr and Pino who prefer to play on the right. It just doesn't make sense to me, even taking Glasner out of this, as we now have three right wingers and no player whose strongest position is on the left.
 
I still maintain that yesterday was the final straw for Glasner himself.

Not saying I am correct however all this noise and his comments could be a result of the fact he is not getting results, has no idea how to change things, and is making every excuse possible to avoid taking responsibility and pin the blame on others for the sake of his own career.

I really cannot envisage how him staying works for any party, and most concerningly for my football club.

Like any fan, at the end of the day, I just want to see my team compete in football matches. We have not been for a few months. I’ve lost all faith in Glasner’s team to the extent each matchday holds little to no interest for me.

As soon as Glasner is out, my interest will be rekindled. My memories of Glasner will exist in two separate moulds. The glory year and a half and the absolute shambles.
 
No, I don't think anyone expected a £50m spend on one player.

And you can't like for like replace Eze.

As for Pino, the following is an interesting read ;


there was an article last week with quotes saying that the greek winger had wanted to join us after we bid big on him. The problem was that bruges turned our offer down so then we did what most clubs do and went after a different target.
 
Not everyone thought that, yes the squad was the greatest thing since sliced bread, the manager is a seriously different manager, it was always going to end in tears, is this the moment i said i told you all six months ago, probably not
I don't agree and I'm not trying to/ expect you to change your view.
He got improved performances from players that I doubt the players even thought they were capable of.

He moulded us into a team that didn't fear anybody , even the likes of Manchester City and Liverpool who we managed to beat to achieve the only major trophies in our history .
Earlier in the season he managed us to be the team with the longest unbeaten run in Europe - yes, longer than even giants Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG, Man City.

I understand you dislike him but to disparage his achievements so vehemently and claim it's just the squad that achieved them?
That seems a little unfair.
Glasner had a good track record before joining Palace, and I'm sure he'll continue with a good track record when he leaves.
 
No one has turned on Glasner. It’s Glasner who had turned on Palace.

After all the dreadful recent results we kept faith with him but yesterday’s outburst was unforgivable. If that’s truly where he is at in his head then we are better off without him.
What did he say? Unfortunately, I don't have the possibility to watch english TV in Austria and my lack of talent with doing proper online research in combination isn't helpful 😂
 
I still maintain that yesterday was the final straw for Glasner himself.

Not saying I am correct however all this noise and his comments could be a result of the fact he is not getting results, has no idea how to change things, and is making every excuse possible to avoid taking responsibility and pin the blame on others for the sake of his own career.

I really cannot envisage how him staying works for any party, and most concerningly for my football club.

Like any fan, at the end of the day, I just want to see my team compete in football matches. We have not been for a few months. I’ve lost all faith in Glasner’s team to the extent each matchday holds little to no interest for me.

As soon as Glasner is out, my interest will be rekindled. My memories of Glasner will exist in two separate moulds. The glory year and a half and the absolute shambles.

Before Sunderland only West Ham were below us in the form table for the previous 5 games. Even Wolves above us.

After Sunderland we are ranked bottom over the last 7 games

And we lost to Macclesfield

If this had continued, with Glasner having already confirmed his decision to leave in October, then he would be facing the sack based on the team's performance

In that context you could see his petulant outburst as a way of distracting from how badly the team was doing and that this could be disrupting his career plan of stepping up to a big club in the summer.

I do think that any big club looking at what happened yesterday would be reconsidering any interest they had with him. But I'm sure it won't put off lots of other medium sized clubs who would quite like a transformational coach who could win silverware even if it all goes sour two years down the line.
 

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