Glasner Out

[Jacey]

OG,will be gone in the Summer to very likely,United,with their unlimited resources.

Why on earth would be want to stay with our inability to make adequate signings and lack of ambition,when one of the most famous clubs in the World come calling???

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

 

[JHB]

OG,will be gone in the Summer to very likely,United,with their unlimited resources.

Why on earth would be want to stay with our inability to make adequate signings and lack of ambition,when one of the most famous clubs in the World come calling???

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

I think a lot will depend on our form in the second half of the season. If our current awful form continues it will put Man Utd off. Just from a PR point of view they won’t want to hire a manager who is delivering 1 point from 15. If our form returns to what it was and we finish strong in EPL and Europe then it makes him leaving more likely. If he wants the job he will also not make any more statements on transfers etc. Man Utd sacked Amorim in part because he wouldn’t tow the line on transfers so again they will want a compliant manager, at least in public.

Either way hopefully it is some added incentive for OG to focus on getting us the most points he can.

 

[mtp1958]

OG,will be gone in the Summer to very likely,United,with their unlimited resources.

Why on earth would be want to stay with our inability to make adequate signings and lack of ambition,when one of the most famous clubs in the World come calling???

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

because utd are a crap team and squad and signings and owners , and he will be pulling his hair out asking what can i do with this shower of sh#t , why do you think nobody's lining up to go there , dont let there lge position fall you

 

[MrRobbo]

because utd are a crap team and squad and signings and owners , and he will be pulling his hair out asking what can i do with this shower of sh#t , why do you think nobody's lining up to go there , dont let there lge position fall you

Like it of not, they still have huge pull.

 

[Jacey]

because utd are a crap team and squad and signings and owners , and he will be pulling his hair out asking what can i do with this shower of sh#t , why do you think nobody's lining up to go there , dont let there lge position fall you

Think The Daily Telegraph is a reliable source and OG,is clearly the favourite to take over in the Summer:

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

 

[mtp1958]

Think The Daily Telegraph is a reliable source and OG,is clearly the favourite to take over in the Summer:

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

its recycled news before the season started he was favorite like ever player we have has been sold by the papers

 

[rikz]

My thoughts are that Ollie’s halo has well and truly slipped. I agree we should have done business better in the summer and can understand why Ollie had the hump.

However if he were to go now, well that would show a lack of class that I didn’t think was Ollie. He has not set the world alight with his tactical knowledge while we had our injury and afcon nightmare Xmas period. in fact as others have said we have basically shown relegation form and that is on the manager. He has to work with what he has and make it work. I knew we would be bad during this period but nobody could have seen such a fall from grace. We didn’t so much drop in the league as plummet.

He owes it to us to get us back firing and winning or his legacy’s could be in trouble. He gave us the greatest day in our history but may now seems a long time ago.

By the way… I want him to stay and sign a new deal but he does have to stop moaning about our lack of transfer because that’s just who we are.

So how much tactical knowledge would he need to get through like you've pointed out, a tough period ? You can have all the tactical knowledge in the world, sometimes its just as simple as it coming down to quality. Newcastle had 200 million to come off the bench, a 70 million pound striker, we cant even afford a 70 million pound player let alone one to sit on the bench.

Pep said he never coached Messi, when talking about Alonso, Henry said rightly or wrongly you don't coach at a club like barca or Madrid, you've got a group of players who already know they're the best in the world, telling them we're going through drills at 9am just isnt going to work, its all about man management otherwise they will just get you sacked.

You'll get the odd surprise here and there but generally league position correlates with wage bill. Being a tactical genius is irrelevant if you dont have the players.

The one thing I missed about the championship for years, was having a genuine expectation of getting a result, regardless who we played. Going to a game, to make up the numbers, expecting to lose is as bad as it gets. Do I expect us to win every game, of course not, but I now know we're going to be competitive in every game I watch and any result is possible. For a club our size playing in the top division, thats as good as it gets and that's entirely because of Glasner.

 

[park the bus]

So how much tactical knowledge would he need to get through like you've pointed out, a tough period ? You can have all the tactical knowledge in the world, sometimes its just as simple as it coming down to quality. Newcastle had 200 million to come off the bench, a 70 million pound striker, we cant even afford a 70 million pound player let alone one to sit on the bench.

Pep said he never coached Messi, when talking about Alonso, Henry said rightly or wrongly you don't coach at a club like barca or Madrid, you've got a group of players who already know they're the best in the world, telling them we're going through drills at 9am just isnt going to work, its all about man management otherwise they will just get you sacked.

You'll get the odd surprise here and there but generally league position correlates with wage bill. Being a tactical genius is irrelevant if you dont have the players.

The one thing I missed about the championship for years, was having a genuine expectation of getting a result, regardless who we played. Going to a game, to make up the numbers, expecting to lose is as bad as it gets. Do I expect us to win every game, of course not, but I now know we're going to be competitive in every game I watch and any result is possible. For a club our size playing in the top division, thats as good as it gets and that's entirely because of Glasner.

When you're under the cosh and a player is treading water you don't keep him on hoping he'll come good you make a change. Sticking to the same routine hasn't helped and it's there in the stats, relegation form. As others have mentioned, it's Glasner's job to find a solution, that's what he's paid for. All well and good when things are rosy but what happens when things get rough? Are you up to the challenge? We'll find out soon enough.

 

[NEILLO]

A feature of this recent bad run is the number of goals conceded from set pieces.

Glasner was quoted as saying that he needs to find a solution for that. Probably not going to be out on the training ground as at the moment the playing schedule doesn't enable much time for that.

It's a results business of course and when results are poor then the manager comes under scrutiny and the expectation is that they find a way to improve things. If they don't then we know how the story ends.

What Glasner rightly has - and Amorin didn't - was ' collateral '. Glasner has won us trophies and a record number of points. While operating on a comparative shoestring financially.

In my opinion what this season is demonstrating is that when we have that rarity of all the players being available, we are a formidable team. But take the number of key players that we currently have out and what we are left with to fill those gaps are either the highly average - Nketiah, Sosa, Uche, Devenney, Esse - the potential prospects such as Pino and Canvot - and then some untried Academy players. We also have Nat Clyne who I think in the circumstances is doing a fine job.

And it's not unusual for Palace to pad the bench out with two goalkeepers.

Hopefully we will add more players this month.

 

[Dogburger]

Think The Daily Telegraph is a reliable source and OG,is clearly the favourite to take over in the Summer:

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

All utd ex players and supporters have been banging on about in the last couple of days is getting a manager with the 'Utd identity' whatever that is . I'm pretty sure its not sitting in a structured defensive shape 3-4-3 with a work ethic ,two defensive midfielders and hitting teams on the break though .

Glasner is great for us ,suits our 'identity' and is perfect for a team that CAN win games though I'm not at all confident that he would be as well suited to a team that's EXPECTED to win games . (sorry for the big letters I just thought it needed highlighting )
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on our gaffer but all his success has come with teams like us on the fringes not the ones with unlimited resources .

I don't know if he stays at Palace but Utd's not the team or the club that would suit him IMO

 

[dreamwaverider]

Think The Daily Telegraph is a reliable source and OG,is clearly the favourite to take over in the Summer:

Next Man Utd manager: Job 'provides huge appeal' to PL manager

Next Manchester United manager latest as the Red Devils search for their new head coach after sacking Ruben Amorim

www.manchesterworld.uk

I can't see Man Utd going half a season again without a permanent manager. Ratcliff is the type who will want sharp action not a slow drift. When they elevated Rangnick a few years ago from 'consultant' to temp manager he has since proven to his word to be a very good manager for Austria. Having him (even as the alleged 'founder' of the high press game) it was never going to work in a temporary capacity at Man Utd.

 

[MrRobbo]

All utd ex players and supporters have been banging on about in the last couple of days is getting a manager with the 'Utd identity' whatever that is . I'm pretty sure its not sitting in a structured defensive shape 3-4-3 with a work ethic ,two defensive midfielders and hitting teams on the break though .

Glasner is great for us ,suits our 'identity' and is perfect for a team that CAN win games though I'm not at all confident that he would be as well suited to a team that's EXPECTED to win games . (sorry for the big letters I just thought it needed highlighting )
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on our gaffer but all his success has come with teams like us on the fringes not the ones with unlimited resources .

I don't know if he stays at Palace but Utd's not the team or the club that would suit him IMO

100% agree. Like or not his style has a ceiling.

His CV reads as defying the odds and overachieving at every club.

If you are a mid table team, Glasner is the man to win you a cup.

 

[rikz]

When you're under the cosh and a player is treading water you don't keep him on hoping he'll come good you make a change. Sticking to the same routine hasn't helped and it's there in the stats, relegation form. As others have mentioned, it's Glasner's job to find a solution, that's what he's paid for. All well and good when things are rosy but what happens when things get rough? Are you up to the challenge? We'll find out soon enough.

If any manager lost sarr, munoz and Richards, one whole side of our team, they would be in trouble, add kamada and Nketiah, 2 players that would be pushing for a start, at the very least expected to come on if we need to change things.

Honestly what would you want him to do, because if you think switching to a 433 with uche up top, esse as a no 10, with devenny out wide and expect things to be even better, then they wont, they'll be even worse.

 

[JHB]

If any manager lost sarr, munoz and Richards, one whole side of our team, they would be in trouble, add kamada and Nketiah, 2 players that would be pushing for a start, at the very least expected to come on if we need to change things.

Honestly what would you want him to do, because if you think switching to a 433 with uche up top, esse as a no 10, with devenny out wide and expect things to be even better, then they wont, they'll be even worse.

I think everyone expected this period to be tough. Losing key players was always going to make things hard. Anyone expecting us to get north of ten points from the last five games had unrealistic expectations. However, I don’t think one point from fifteen was on the radar either. I don’t think it was unreasonable to expect better than what we’ve had. Somewhere around 6 or 7 points.

I also don’t think OG can be entirely absolved of blame. We all looked at this period and knew it would be tough with lots of games. That’s why plenty of people recommended squad rotation in Europe (not like we ripped it up with the first team). Also you might have thought there would have been a plan B developed from the start of the season

 

[park the bus]

If any manager lost sarr, munoz and Richards, one whole side of our team, they would be in trouble, add kamada and Nketiah, 2 players that would be pushing for a start, at the very least expected to come on if we need to change things.

Honestly what would you want him to do, because if you think switching to a 433 with uche up top, esse as a no 10, with devenny out wide and expect things to be even better, then they wont, they'll be even worse.

Well he hasn't really tried anything but more of the same, and the points tally and league position in these trying times reflect his decisions, as well as the competency of the players available. Yes, we know it's difficult.

 

[taylors lovechild]

Well he hasn't really tried anything but more of the same, and the points tally and league position in these trying times reflect his decisions, as well as the competency of the players available. Yes, we know it's difficult.

He's had 13-14 fit first-team players, one of which is now going out on loan because he seemingly isn't ready for the first team. Of that bunch JP is apparently carrying a knee injury, Clyne is being asked to play more than he has in years, and Devenny is having to fill more slots than Leonardo Di Caprio at an 18-24 cruise. After Lerma went off at Newcastle we only had two fit central midfielders but three fit centre-backs, so we'd have been forced to revert back to a back 5 anyway.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

If any manager lost sarr, munoz and Richards, one whole side of our team, they would be in trouble, add kamada and Nketiah, 2 players that would be pushing for a start, at the very least expected to come on if we need to change things.

Honestly what would you want him to do, because if you think switching to a 433 with uche up top, esse as a no 10, with devenny out wide and expect things to be even better, then they wont, they'll be even worse.

Imagine the grizzling from Peparteta in a similar situation. They get one player injured and they're running around with their hair on fire - well, not Pep but Captain Scarlet anyway.

 

[mtp1958]

been speaking to local man u fans I live up north , they dont see OG as there next manager , I reckon Bournemouth guy would be better suited or silva they sort of agreed , to be honest they dont know who they want

 

[rikz]

He's had 13-14 fit first-team players, one of which is now going out on loan because he seemingly isn't ready for the first team. Of that bunch JP is apparently carrying a knee injury, Clyne is being asked to play more than he has in years, and Devenny is having to fill more slots than Leonardo Di Caprio at an 18-24 cruise. After Lerma went off at Newcastle we only had two fit central midfielders but three fit centre-backs, so we'd have been forced to revert back to a back 5 anyway.

Add onto that, the club reportedly don't want to trigger uches obligation to buy, so he can't even start him if he wanted.

 

[Willo]

been speaking to local man u fans I live up north , they dont see OG as there next manager , I reckon Bournemouth guy would be better suited or silva they sort of agreed , to be honest they dont know who they want

I for one do not envisage Oliver Glasner being the next Man Utd manager.