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Whilst this thread is about Edouard, quite a lot of angst seems pointed at Eddy Nketiah, with most of that suggesting that we paid way too much for him -

One suggests: A super sub, below 10 million would have been appropriate.

I would be interested to know what others think would have been a reasonable / acceptable price to pay, for Nketiah, in a competitive market, bearing in mind what it costs these days to buy a 23 year old striker, from a top 6 club with any number of PL minutes & some goals to their name.


Its not unusual in the current market to see PL clubs spending 15 million for squad players / benchwarmers
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
That's not minutes on the pitch though is it, 12mins at the end of the game is not an appearance is it, a goal every 202 minutes on the pitch is a fact. get a grip.
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That puts him in the sub bracket though, wouldn't you say? That is what Arsenal defined his role to be, given his attributes. I think the manager of Arsenal knows better than you, having worked with the player. In other words, we paid £25m plus £5m add-ons, on a five year deal. For a substitute. No way he will displace JPM whilst he is here. Worth mentioning that Nketiah earns vastly more than JPM too, no wonder Mateta is looking for a new deal. Good work Dougie! Crazy.
You've been banging on about Nketiah for some while, perhaps you can't admit that your judgement is flawed.
 

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park the bus said:
That puts him in the sub bracket though, wouldn't you say? That is what Arsenal defined his role to be, given his attributes. I think the manager of Arsenal knows better than you, having worked with the player. In other words, we paid £25m plus £5m add-ons, on a five year deal. For a substitute. No way he will displace JPM whilst he is here. Worth mentioning that Nketiah earns vastly more than JPM too, no wonder Mateta is looking for a new deal. Good work Dougie! Crazy.
You've been banging on about Nketiah for some while, perhaps you can't admit that your judgement is flawed.
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No, it puts him behind Giroud, Sanchez, Lacazette, Aubameyan, Jesus and Havertz, always since 2017 until he left, 2 players in front of him, all better than him at the time
 
Dubai Eagle said:
Whilst this thread is about Edouard, quite a lot of angst seems pointed at Eddy Nketiah, with most of that suggesting that we paid way too much for him -

One suggests: A super sub, below 10 million would have been appropriate.

I would be interested to know what others think would have been a reasonable / acceptable price to pay, for Nketiah, in a competitive market, bearing in mind what it costs these days to buy a 23 year old striker, from a top 6 club with any number of PL minutes & some goals to their name.


Its not unusual in the current market to see PL clubs spending 15 million for squad players / benchwarmers
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I think somewhere around £10m to £13m plus add ons would have been about right. As you say that’s the market for a 25 year old player with some experience. Crazy but it is what it is. Paying him £90k a week is a lot as well. That seems over the odds for a squad player. Makes you think we thought JPM was moving on and Nketiah was his replacement. Let’s hope he comes good and turns into the player some on here think he can be.
 
Neither good enough to be a starting striker in the premier league , in my opinion.
If JPm leaves we would need to buy a replacement, that would start games, 50 million ish.
Eduoards wages seem too high, when you think where he came from. Nketiah blew a big lump of the Olise money on him, for a striker who the DOF wanted for ages , but doesn’t fit our system. Our best buys have been buying youngsters between 10-20m from the championship recently, also the wages aren’t ridiculous. Would have rathered gone down that route for a back up striker.



Lanzo-Ad said:
Come on me old Mucker, the stats speak for themselves, 5 assists, disgraceful
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Dubai Eagle said:
Whilst this thread is about Edouard, quite a lot of angst seems pointed at Eddy Nketiah, with most of that suggesting that we paid way too much for him -

One suggests: A super sub, below 10 million would have been appropriate.

I would be interested to know what others think would have been a reasonable / acceptable price to pay, for Nketiah, in a competitive market, bearing in mind what it costs these days to buy a 23 year old striker, from a top 6 club with any number of PL minutes & some goals to their name.


Its not unusual in the current market to see PL clubs spending 15 million for squad players / benchwarmers
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chelsea gave us Loftus Cheek and Gallagher..........both mustard

arsenal gave us Sanogo and a load of other broken fools.
 
JHB said:
I want Nketiah to do well but his career record is one of a bit part player at this level. I don’t think Edouard is exactly the second coming of Ian Wright but he scored more goals last league season than Nketiah has ever scored in his career including on loan in the Championship. So while I wouldn’t be delighted with Edouard as back up to JPM I don’t see he would be any worse than Nketiah and also meant we wouldn’t have forked out £25m. We can say Nketiah hasn’t been given a run but he was in the starting eleven at the start of the season and wasn’t good enough so was dropped. Just like Kamada. He had lots of chances at Arsenal but wasn’t good enough to establish himself. Maybe, after several seasons in the EPL we just have to conclude he isn’t good enough to be more than a sub.
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He's not a 10 or a winger. So i'm not sure though he was given a starting role, it is that telling. He's a no 9 - when he plays there consistently, we'll know what he can do for us. Would help if Eze is on form and Wharton back as well. Those opening matches were not exactly fruitful for JPM either...
 
JHB said:
I think somewhere around £10m to £13m plus add ons would have been about right. As you say that’s the market for a 25 year old player with some experience. Crazy but it is what it is. Paying him £90k a week is a lot as well. That seems over the odds for a squad player. Makes you think we thought JPM was moving on and Nketiah was his replacement. Let’s hope he comes good and turns into the player some on here think he can be.
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JPM goes in the summer, for sure. He'll have two years left on his contract and he wont sign a new one. Sarr might become the big man up front in a new line up.
 
If it’s true we could get £15m for Jeff Schlupp the it shows what a poor deal we did for Nketiah.
No matter which way you cut it paying £25m and £90k a week is a bad deal and leads to dressing room issues when far more important and better players are paid well less.
 
kevlee said:
If it’s true we could get £15m for Jeff Schlupp the it shows what a poor deal we did for Nketiah.
No matter which way you cut it paying £25m and £90k a week is a bad deal and leads to dressing room issues when far more important and better players are paid well less.
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£15m for Schlupp ??!

I don’t think so….
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
That's not minutes on the pitch though is it, 12mins at the end of the game is not an appearance is it, a goal every 202 minutes on the pitch is a fact. get a grip.
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lol…yes it is!

If you keep on spouting nonsense like that, none is going to to take any notice of your posts.
 
It took time for JPM to become the asset he is today, but he had the essentials in his toolkit, Edouard is never going to make it, so time to cut losses and Eddie doesn't look like he is going to make it either so maybe two for the price of one!
 
taylors lovechild said:
When asked previously about Eduoard being sent back OG clammed up like the customer service desk at M&S when someone looks to return an item without a receipt. For the life of me I do not understand why he was given a new contract, but maybe we'll do ok out of it in the end. From OE's perspective, he would probably do well in the MLS or another lifestyle league where he can earn top dollar without breaking a sweat. Tekkers was the leading goal scorer in the MLS last season ahead of Messi and Suarez.
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radicalsteve said:
It took time for JPM to become the asset he is today, but he had the essentials in his toolkit, Edouard is never going to make it, so time to cut losses and Eddie doesn't look like he is going to make it either so maybe two for the price of one!
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Trouble is these days with only the one central striker you can’t be too lightweight, you’ve got to be able to rattle defenders and put yourself about as well as be able to put the ball in the net. Much as everyone loved Dwight Gayle, he just couldn’t do it on his own up there. Even the great Ian Wright has admitted he thinks he would struggle, much as he did put himself about, he says he was lucky that he played with two of the best centre forwards around in Brighty and Alan Smith at Arsenal.

This is a defence of Nketiah by the way, not Edouard, Edouard is just plain rubbish 🤣
 
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