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Crystal Palace v Fulham match thread

How many times are we going to be at full strength though? Maybe one game in five? We have to have somebody who can fight for points with what is on the pitch not just when everything is set up perfectly. I like OG but it’s clear the squad doesn’t work in his system and he won’t change his system. I really don’t see what we lose from making a change. We have to do something different. Right now we are on pace for fewer than 30 points and relegation. We are in crisis
 
I'm sorry but Henderson pretty much pulled out on committing on both of their goals. Could have been saved. f*** it. Football is not enjoyable to watch anymore, so bring on the Championship!
 
I think today was the first time we looked structural a disaster from minute 1. Some of the positional changes did baffle me and there was no fluidity at all.

Who would have thought Glasner would be relying on Hughes to bail him out of a very bad situation. There were some solid performances, but also several that offered nothing. That will never win a game in the PL, even against Southampton.
 
The bottom line is that we just dont have a big enough squad of good enough players . Recent weeks have been encouraging with the high tempo high press football but today with a few first choice or even second choice players out we just were not strong enough ,good enough or capable enough to trouble what is a decent mid table team.

The international break will for once do us a favour , give us a chance to regroup maybe get a few more bodies repaired and go again .

The club need to be looking to get Kamada out of the club ,just take a hit on the contract ,try and recoup a little with a fee , just get him gone . The bloke is an embarrassment and he knows it ,that tackle was born out of the frustration he feels about himself ,he is not good enough and he knows it .

Well done to all the kids that played today ,at least they didn't let themselves down
 
We competed reasonably well for 44 mins and even created a few half chances without their keeper being really troubled.

And then our best player in the first half, Lacroix, made an error which Fulham scored from.

At the beginning of the second half Glasner reshuffled the players, shifting Guehi from midfield (where he had given us a competitive edge ) to left of the back 3.
This meant a central midfield of Kamada and Devenny which Fulham ran through at will and they totally dominated the second half and should have scored more.
The reshuffle really didn't work.

Kamada's woes are well
documented, but Sarr is a major disappointment.
I thought he was quick and strong, but I lost count of how often he was outpaced and outmuscled today.

It's fine saying we'll be ok when our players are back, but even then there has to be a question mark where our goals are going to come from.
 
The thing is….
We knew we had a depleted team
We kind of expected to lose
But the one thing OG is supposedly famed for is his organisation - and today was a shambles…
In the past, there has always been a minor miracle where we win games like this ……but this never looked likely

In truth, even at full strength, we are still a poor team. There are teams in the Championship that could turn out better performances than us.

Today was like lambs to the slaughter
 
ASCPFC said:
I wasn't sure why Devenny was subbed and not Kamada. Surely a young player like that would play the 90 pretty easily. And ultimately Kamada was sent off not long afterwards. If I'm going to criticise Glasner it's for this firstly. Surely he can see that.
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I think he can also be criticised for not changing the system today given how many players were out. Today really was crying out for a back four with Clyne at right back and then a midfield four with Munoz on the right and Sarr on the left. Kamada had to play today given injuries but should have been in a number 10 role ahead of the midfield and behind Mateta.

All a bit academic now and we know OG won’t change his system for anything.
 
PatrickA said:
We competed reasonably well for 44 mins and even created a few half chances without their keeper being really troubled.

And then our best player in the first half, Lacroix, made an error which Fulham scored from.

At the beginning of the second half Glasner reshuffled the players, shifting Guehi from midfield (where he had given us a competitive edge ) to left of the back 3.
This meant a central midfield of Kamada and Devenny which Fulham ran through at will and they totally dominated the second half and should have scored more.
The reshuffle really didn't work.

Kamada's woes are well
documented, but Sarr is a major disappointment.
I thought he was quick and strong, but I lost count of how often he was outpaced and outmuscled today.

It's fine saying we'll be ok when our players are back, but even then there has to be a question mark where our goals are going to come from.
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I don't know why we chased Sarr for so long. He's never been particularly good, frankly. And there was no point even pretending that he replaced Olise.
The only thing I'll find acceptable about our crap transfers is if we stay up and actually do the main stand.
I also wonder if we have an option to buy on Chalobah as otherwise it's going to be a Gallagher situation. Which seemed to go on as long as Nugent and McCormack.
 
VinceHilaire said:
The thing is….
We knew we had a depleted team
We kind of expected to lose
But the one thing OG is supposedly famed for is his organisation - and today was a shambles…
In the past, there has always been a minor miracle where we win games like this ……but this never looked likely

In truth, even at full strength, we are still a poor team. There are teams in the Championship that could turn out better performances than us.

Today was like lambs to the slaughter
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This is why I think we should probably make a managerial change. It’s just not working. OG isn’t getting organisation out of the team, he isn’t getting fight, he sure isn’t getting goals. Of course it could have been different and with the right set up OG could have pushed us on. Ideally we wouldn’t be starting from here with this squad. But we are where we are and we have to change it. Just doesn’t look to me like he’s the right person for a relegation battle. I think he’d rather stick to his principles and formation and get relegated than be pragmatic and change things to get points.
 
Positives from the game.

Devenney had a decent debut
Kamada Suspended
I feel it in my loins Glasner is about to have a hol esque flounce.
 
ASCPFC said:
I don't know why we chased Sarr for so long. He's never been particularly good, frankly. And there was no point even pretending that he replaced Olise.
The only thing I'll find acceptable about our crap transfers is if we stay up and actually do the main stand.
I also wonder if we have an option to buy on Chalobah as otherwise it's going to be a Gallagher situation. Which seemed to go on as long as Nugent and McCormack.
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That’s the really frustrating thing with both the Sarr and Nketiah transfers. It’s not like they’ve regressed. They are just playing at the level they have their whole careers. So the question is why did we try so hard to get them and spend so much of our budget on them? Do we really think the squad would be worse with Ayew and Eduoard in their place?
 
My only thoughts from today are that with that 11 selected to start which was our best 11 available was that we would be beaten by a much stronger Fulham team. And that’s how it turned out. Positive's were the youngsters that came on and of course the one that started. I just hope that Glasner knows that Kamada and Schlupp when our missing players are back don’t ever get a look in again and the youngsters are in front of them for selection including the bench.
 
G O Eagle said:
Let us be positive. We have won a game this season. Like Derby some years ago. Hell will freeze over before we win again.
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Enchanted words G.O. Like you, I am going to remain positive too.

REMEMBER we have participated in 4 ardious full-length soccer matches since our alarm clock woke us up a fortnight ago, and bar a comforting perfectly good last-chance saloon winning score being unfastened by the British Video Assistant Referee, we would have tasted 3 victories in 4 which is easily construed as the form of EPL "leading 4"

For those Crystal PFC folk not following the virtues of Manchester CFC, you can rest easy over the next 12 hours or so feeling the warm solace they have been defeated 3 on the foxtrot. And yes, whilst many of us will feel sad at the current form of the 2024 EPL championship team, we can feel better knowing our form trumps that of our championship team.

Stay positive fellow Crystals, the future is very bright for us all and life is too short to worry about one defeat today, which truth told flattered them as a zero zero or one to one score card wouldn't have looked out of place either.

And finally, another positive from today was the performance of J Devenny who made his maiden appearance today and held his own.

Mr Devenny joined us from Scottish Highland soccer sides Airdrieonians Kilmarnock FC

Kind Regards everyone, keep the faith.
 
palace chick said:
My only thoughts from today are that with that 11 selected to start which was our best 11 available was that we would be beaten by a much stronger Fulham team. And that’s how it turned out. Positive's were the youngsters that came on and of course the one that started. I just hope that Glasner knows that Kamada and Schlupp when our missing players are back don’t ever get a look in again and the youngsters are in front of them for selection including the bench.
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Very warm and wise words, Sir.
Just what we all need over the next 12 hours to help us over todays minor blip.
Rgds
 
JHB said:
That’s the really frustrating thing with both the Sarr and Nketiah transfers. It’s not like they’ve regressed. They are just playing at the level they have their whole careers. So the question is why did we try so hard to get them and spend so much of our budget on them? Do we really think the squad would be worse with Ayew and Eduoard in their place?
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Makes me laugh, we release Ayew but keep Schlupp who looks like he's been assisting at the pie stall.
Eduoard was always crap and lazy so no loss there.
But Nketiah and Sarr? These two are mediocre at best.
 
Honey Gee said:
Enchanted words G.O. Like you, I am going to remain positive too.

REMEMBER we have participated in 4 ardious full-length soccer matches since our alarm clock woke us up a fortnight ago, and bar a comforting perfectly good last-chance saloon winning score being unfastened by the British Video Assistant Referee, we would have tasted 3 victories in 4 which is easily construed as the form of EPL "leading 4"

For those Crystal PFC folk not following the virtues of Manchester CFC, you can rest easy over the next 12 hours or so feeling the warm solace they have been defeated 3 on the foxtrot. And yes, whilst many of us will feel sad at the current form of the 2024 EPL championship team, we can feel better knowing our form trumps that of our championship team.

Stay positive fellow Crystals, the future is very bright for us all and life is too short to worry about one defeat today, which truth told flattered them as a zero zero or one to one score card wouldn't have looked out of place either.

And finally, another positive from today was the performance of J Devenny who made his maiden appearance today and held his own.

Mr Devenny joined us from Scottish Highland soccer sides Airdrieonians Kilmarnock FC

Kind Regards everyone, keep the faith.
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I'm worried about the 7 losses in 11.
Each to their own though...
 
Watched the game - why disrupt the back 3 that was just starting to look decent - we needed to be solid at the back - given our injuries and try and grind out a result.

Guehi is never a CDM - that was proved first half totally overrun in midfield - if Dacoure is fit enough to be on the bench he’s fit enough to start.!!

Those are both on OG - and I’m quickly losing faith - he’s wedded to his formation irrespective of the players he has available - just has no plan B..!!

Transfer strategy was a shambles - Kamada and Sarr just not good enough - jury out on Nketiah. Business done too late, selling Andersen 2 days before the close of the window - ludicrous. Not bringing in a left footed attacker to replace Olise - beggars belief..!! That’s all Parish and DF..!!

Then this is the outcome, yes injuries haven’t helped - but you could see it coming..!!

IMO we’re going to continue down this path until Parish steps aside his time is done and race is run..!!

Only positives from today Devenny looks like he may have something - Lacroix mistake aside getting better all the time - looks a real leader..

That aside awful - Mitchell can’t pass, Munoz runs around a lot but no quality - tactics woeful - just awful..!!

Be interesting to see if Parish pulls the trigger on Glasner - but/when really the major issues lie with him..!!
 
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