Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

One of the Sky Sports channels have an interview with Mary Knickers tonight at 10:30.

(I had another look, and it appears to be from last December)

Can't wait for him to be asked about the ship full of heroin and what happened to the witnesses.
 
One of the Sky Sports channels have an interview with Mary Knickers tonight at 10:30.

(I had another look, and it appears to be from last December)

At 10.31 the chair breaks.
 
Added to which, how could "the Board" (collective) at Palace get their house in order even if they saw the need to? The issue was shareholdings connected to one board member, not the collective.
But so far we have seen no evidence that Textor was holding out from any pressure from Parish to put his shares in blind trust. I'm more inclined to the collective 'Oh my God we screwed up' hypothesis
Of course, if it is all down to Textor, it only shows that he has a 'decisive influence' which we are trying to argue against
 
One of the Sky Sports channels have an interview with Mary Knickers tonight at 10:30.

(I had another look, and it appears to be from last December)

I recorded the show, and got an interview with Cucurella instead. I checked, and I had not made a mistake. They showed a totally different program!
 
But so far we have seen no evidence that Textor was holding out from any pressure from Parish to put his shares in blind trust. I'm more inclined to the collective 'Oh my God we screwed up' hypothesis
Of course, if it is all down to Textor, it only shows that he has a 'decisive influence' which we are trying to argue against
nobody on here knows what evidence and arguments we have to prove our point , we are all guessing , we are not privy to UEFA or Palaces brief on the case so everyone needs to stop guessing , and since page 50 we have gone round in circles , with the odd click bait thrown in , conspiracy's dream
 
In all the various arguments and hypothesises being suggested here I wonder if something fundamental is being overlooked.

The guiding principle of CAS is to ensure they dispense natural justice. For their own procedures that means the same standards apply as in a Court. The right to a fair trial, the right for both sides to be heard, for full disclosure of evidence, all to be heard by an independent Adjudicator, or panel of Adjudicators.

However, they can also look at whether the behaviour of regulatory bodies, such as UEFA, also applies natural justice and it seems to me that we must have a strong case in claiming that the way UEFA treated us did not. On a number of grounds.

Just as a Company cannot write Terms & Conditions that are demonstrably unfair and expect them to protect them against unreasonable behaviour nor can a sports authority write rules that are demonstrably unfit for purpose, being unable to achieve their stated aims. This conflicts with natural justice.

A Judge can rule that an unfair clause in a Company’s T &C can be disregarded and I think that CAS could possibly do the same with an unfair rule. Especially any that have been slated for revision due to their inappropriateness.

All the arguments that we have no chance of success because UEFA have decided we have broken their rules and CAS will have no choice other than to agree with them, whatever the morality involved (read some of the Forest forums), fall at the first fence if I am right.
 
In all the various arguments and hypothesises being suggested here I wonder if something fundamental is being overlooked.

The guiding principle of CAS is to ensure they dispense natural justice. For their own procedures that means the same standards apply as in a Court. The right to a fair trial, the right for both sides to be heard, for full disclosure of evidence, all to be heard by an independent Adjudicator, or panel of Adjudicators.

However, they can also look at whether the behaviour of regulatory bodies, such as UEFA, also applies natural justice and it seems to me that we must have a strong case in claiming that the way UEFA treated us did not. On a number of grounds.

Just as a Company cannot write Terms & Conditions that are demonstrably unfair and expect them to protect them against unreasonable behaviour nor can a sports authority write rules that are demonstrably unfit for purpose, being unable to achieve their stated aims. This conflicts with natural justice.

A Judge can rule that an unfair clause in a Company’s T &C can be disregarded and I think that CAS could possibly do the same with an unfair rule. Especially any that have been slated for revision due to their inappropriateness.

All the arguments that we have no chance of success because UEFA have decided we have broken their rules and CAS will have no choice other than to agree with them, whatever the morality involved (read some of the Forest forums), fall at the first fence if I am right.
As I often say, it doesn’t matter how morally correct or legally correct you are, if somebody further up the food chain doesn’t agree then there is little you can do about it. That is relevant in most things in life, not just football. If we lose…if…then I hope the HF and the fans maintain the abuse in UEFA’s direction for many years to come, particularly with our presence in UEFA’s own competition.
 
But so far we have seen no evidence that Textor was holding out from any pressure from Parish to put his shares in blind trust. I'm more inclined to the collective 'Oh my God we screwed up' hypothesis
Of course, if it is all down to Textor, it only shows that he has a 'decisive influence' which we are trying to argue against
If Crystal Palace “screwed up” then so surely did Lyon since they didn’t do anything at this point either. So why would Palace be punished but not Lyon The answer is that it’s supposed to be our “joint” owner that is being punished by one of his teams being barred - but ooops he has long gone! So punishing us can’t serve any purpose now.
 
If Crystal Palace “screwed up” then so surely did Lyon since they didn’t do anything at this point either. So why would Palace be punished but not Lyon The answer is that it’s supposed to be our “joint” owner that is being punished by one of his teams being barred - but ooops he has long gone! So punishing us can’t serve any purpose now.
Especially so since Lyon are a “Founder Member” of the ECA and would have received all the notifications and advisory correspondence from both the Association and Uefa. In this last respect the department of Uefa responsible for sending out their notifications to Clubs is the responsibility of the Secretary General, Theodore Theodorakis, son in law of Marinakis. Funny how they managed to send these to the wrong Email address!
 
Especially so since Lyon are a “Founder Member” of the ECA and would have received all the notifications and advisory correspondence from both the Association and Uefa. In this last respect the department of Uefa responsible for sending out their notifications to Clubs is the responsibility of the Secretary General, Theodore Theodorakis, son in law of Marinakis. Funny how they managed to send these to the wrong Email address!
I'd picked up on this bit of information too. It's all very suspect. I fear Notts Forest absolutely have (so far) succeeded in picking our pocket. I really hope they keep signing players, get demoted, lose the c. £25m for Europa league, breach PSR and get no where near the Champions league
 
But so far we have seen no evidence that Textor was holding out from any pressure from Parish to put his shares in blind trust. I'm more inclined to the collective 'Oh my God we screwed up' hypothesis
Of course, if it is all down to Textor, it only shows that he has a 'decisive influence' which we are trying to argue against
No it doesn't - It shows he had a decisive influence over what happened to his shares, which of course he did, they were his shares. I doesn't show he had any influence over how the club was run.
 
I really can't wait until Monday, just so we can end all the pointless speculation.

And so we might actually sign some more players.
 

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