Labour Party politics

[chris123]

I fully agree with the stance that the economic case for the EU is widely over pushed by EU fans.

You just need to look at the current EU economies for the reality.

So I'm fully in agreement.

In terms of a metric that France could be better than us? Energy prices? Because of better decisions regarding nuclear in the past.....but that has nothing to do with the EU.

Hotter women?

Michael Olise too.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Michael Olise too.

It's unfortunate that he was injured so often when he was with us.

 

[chris123]

It's unfortunate that he was injured so often when he was with us.

Once while on duty for the French U21s I think

 

[HKOwen]

Why stop when you are having fun......

Never heard of a dry sea?

Facts are often interpretation

Small giants is actually an interesting read it's a book about business.

The exodus of millionaires is something that has been ongoing for a long time as the rich can afford to live somewhere or indeed nowhere at a whim.

Thanks for the laugh, please google the meaning of tautology

 

[Runningman]

Thanks for the laugh, please google the meaning of tautology

Free gift…is an example…

 

[orpingtoneagle]

Thanks for the laugh, please google the meaning of tautology

My pleasure and fear not as I have an English degree or three Inam fully aware of the etymology of tautology

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Money plus institutions.....Farage or whoever has to sack a lot of people who will act as institutional inertia. deliberately slowing and blocking plans. He has to have their replacements ready.....He might have to change a law or two first though.

He will get nowhere working with the system.

This will be a major factor. Farage must remove the lunatics running the asylum in the background. It won't be easy.
There also cannot be economic incompetence. Britain has to find a way export more and import less. It has to cut welfare. It has to create better paths for students to employment. There must be an eye to the future instead of the election cycle. We must start having more children and reduce our reliance on foreign labour. That's just for starters.

 

[Racehorse-80s]

Burnham will struggle to win Makerfield , It’s going to be a shite show of a leadership campaign for Labour assuming anyone actually has the balls to stand if Makerfield goes to Reform .

 

[Willo]

Burnham will struggle to win Makerfield , It’s going to be a shite show of a leadership campaign for Labour assuming anyone actually has the balls to stand if Makerfield goes to Reform .

At this juncture I have a 'Feeling in my water' that he will be elected in Makerfield.

 

[Stirlingsays]

This will be a major factor. Farage must remove the lunatics running the asylum in the background. It won't be easy.
There also cannot be economic incompetence. Britain has to find a way export more and import less. It has to cut welfare. It has to create better paths for students to employment. There must be an eye to the future instead of the election cycle. We must start having more children and reduce our reliance on foreign labour. That's just for starters.

Cutting welfare off for foreigners and subversives.

Not cutting welfare off for British boomers and youth.

But I suspect that Farage not being Lowe, it'll just be about cutting welfare for the most vulnerable regardless.....It won't be ethnic (which is what the welfare system was set up to be).

 

[Stirlingsays]

At this juncture I have a 'Feeling in my water' that he will be elected in Makerfield.

You could just need a trip to see the GP.

 

[georgenorman]

At this juncture I have a 'Feeling in my water' that he will be elected in Makerfield.

No he won't. Reform will win it fairly easily.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You could just need a trip to see the GP.

Or a plumber.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Cutting welfare off for foreigners and subversives.

Not cutting welfare off for British boomers and youth.

But I suspect that Farage not being Lowe, it'll just be about cutting welfare for the most vulnerable regardless.....It won't be ethnic (which is what the welfare system was set up to be).

The rules for recent arrivals need to be changed. The incentives to come here must be reduced.
Welfare was designed for the poor and infirm, not for sponging economic migrants.

 

[Spindle]

I'd rather Carr be PM. He's on point with so much.

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[silvertop]

The UK has a larger economy than France by quite a bit.

We're 6th they're 7th. We tend to swap places with us currently ahead.

The reason we are ahead is better economic management

 

[silvertop]

This is your typical political persecution that the left and social liberals have become known for all over Europe. Farage wasn't an MP at the time......this wouldn't be happening against anyone else.

These whores know they are unpopular and will do anything to stay in power. Starmer is a chief example of it over here.....Literally has no shame at all, he only cares about power.

It's different from the time when I was growing up. You did get resignations from real power, there were lines that mattered. Thatcher for example resigned rather than put herself forward for a grubby leadership contest. She knew the time had come.

Nothing like that with Starmer and Macron types.

They are full of hate for people like me and that fuels them.....They don't care that their politics has been rejected.

We'll see if Starmer does the decent thing or not. He has not blocked a certain Manc from standing in that by election. If Burnham wins and then gets the numbers..?

Remaining with Starmer there are a few things the right hate about him (it's a long list) but chucking civil servants under the bus is beyond the pale for me. Politicians fall on their swords through duty. Something that has sadly been lost.

All politicians are whores. Give them power and they will fight tooth and nail to keep it. Why just target those a bit left of me because you don't like their policies?

 

[silvertop]

No he won't. Reform will win it fairly easily.

Depends. Reform are strong, but perhaps the middle and left won't make an effort?

Right now Labour could not defeat Reform even if they went against them alone. But Burnham might. He has a lot of traction up there.

 

[silvertop]

Cutting welfare off for foreigners and subversives.

Not cutting welfare off for British boomers and youth.

But I suspect that Farage not being Lowe, it'll just be about cutting welfare for the most vulnerable regardless.....It won't be ethnic (which is what the welfare system was set up to be).

Define "subversives"

Are we drifting into despotism here?

 

[beak]

We'll see if Starmer does the decent thing or not. He has not blocked a certain Manc from standing in that by election. If Burnham wins and then gets the numbers..?

Remaining with Starmer there are a few things the right hate about him (it's a long list) but chucking civil servants under the bus is beyond the pale for me. Politicians fall on their swords through duty. Something that has sadly been lost.

All politicians are whores. Give them power and they will fight tooth and nail to keep it. Why just target those a bit left of me because you don't like their policies?

That explains Liz Truss. 😉 👍 I always wondered why she had a dominatrix moniker.