Labour Party politics

[cryrst]

Depends. Reform are strong, but perhaps the middle and left won't make an effort?

Right now Labour could not defeat Reform even if they went against them alone. But Burnham might. He has a lot of traction up there.

He did try to implement a lot of changes with the town centre and they didn’t go down well.

 

[georgenorman]

Depends. Reform are strong, but perhaps the middle and left won't make an effort?

Right now Labour could not defeat Reform even if they went against them alone. But Burnham might. He has a lot of traction up there.

What the Left don't seem to understand is that the overwhelming majority of the country detest their policies.

 

[ASCPFC]

He did try to implement a lot of changes with the town centre and they didn’t go down well.

Less or more security barriers?

 

[chris123]

What the Left don't seem to understand is that the overwhelming majority of the country detest their policies.

Current debt interest £111 billion and burgeoning welfare spend

 

[ASCPFC]

British firm vying to build next Red Arrows jets goes into administration

Aeralis was hoping the UK government would award it a contract to replace the Hawk jets currently flown by the RAF.

www.bbc.com

Just emblematic of the shambles.

 

[cryrst]

Less or more security barriers?

Probably less but it was about no drive zones and charges etc I think.

 

[silvertop]

What the Left don't seem to understand is that the overwhelming majority of the country detest their policies.

Not sure what you mean by Left or indeed what echo chamber you sit in to determine "overwhelming majority"

And I'm not sure I understand what policies are so detested?

The last regime - a Brexit government - oversaw loss after loss and even had one incumbent removed by the City she was so inept. Not in my lifetime have I witnessed that. This government lacks any political nouse and they will never get my precious vote but at least the economy has grown in every quarter they have been in power.

It isn't Labour and it isn't the Tories or their policies that are detested, it is the self serving political duopoly people are out of love with. That is why - if there were a general election tomorrow - we would see a face off between Green and Reform. The status quo is stale and boring. Let's try anything new.

 

[silvertop]

He did try to implement a lot of changes with the town centre and they didn’t go down well.

And a lot that did.

Those inclined to Reform will read only the negatives on the platforms they read.

Find a less leaning source and you will find the locals know about the crap stuff but, on balance, still like him for the good stuff.

And remember, this is the 21st century. The X will go not on who has the best policy but who is currently trending. That is Reform, the Greens and Burnham (not Labour).

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It looks increasingly likely that Labour will bite the bullet they have been eyeing for some time. Streeting has openly called for closer ties with the EU leading to us eventually rejoining. Burnham has said similar things in the past.

When 48% didn’t want to leave in 2016 and more have shifted since this is the vote catcher they need. The point of stark difference that would enable them to retain enough seats to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and SDP. Unless the Tories stop following Reform and move back to the centre they will be finished.

For many being in the EU is the paramount political necessity so it would be a game changer.

This being something I have forecasted for a while.

How strong is UK support for rejoining the European Union?

YouGov data tracks British public opinion on our future relationship with the EU

yougov.com

 

[Teddy Eagle]

What the Left don't seem to understand is that the overwhelming majority of the country detest their policies.

Many of their own MPs aren't desperately keen on how they're being implemented either.

 

[chris123]

Not sure what you mean by Left or indeed what echo chamber you sit in to determine "overwhelming majority"

And I'm not sure I understand what policies are so detested?

The last regime - a Brexit government - oversaw loss after loss and even had one incumbent removed by the City she was so inept. Not in my lifetime have I witnessed that. This government lacks any political nouse and they will never get my precious vote but at least the economy has grown in every quarter they have been in power.

It isn't Labour and it isn't the Tories or their policies that are detested, it is the self serving political duopoly people are out of love with. That is why - if there were a general election tomorrow - we would see a face off between Green and Reform. The status quo is stale and boring. Let's try anything new.

A couple, NI and decarbonising

 

[silvertop]

A couple, NI and decarbonising

Oh I dare say you personally will find policies you don't like. I was talking about massive structural shifts in voting patterns.

 

[silvertop]

It looks increasingly likely that Labour will bite the bullet they have been eyeing for some time. Streeting has openly called for closer ties with the EU leading to us eventually rejoining. Burnham has said similar things in the past.

When 48% didn’t want to leave in 2016 and more have shifted since this is the vote catcher they need. The point of stark difference that would enable them to retain enough seats to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and SDP. Unless the Tories stop following Reform and move back to the centre they will be finished.

For many being in the EU is the paramount political necessity so it would be a game changer.

This being something I have forecasted for a while.

How strong is UK support for rejoining the European Union?

YouGov data tracks British public opinion on our future relationship with the EU

yougov.com

I agree everything up to the unnecessarily smug last line!

BTW while the various parties are expected to have mixed views on rejoining, Reform practically exists as a Leave platform. 11% of their support want to rejoin!!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It looks increasingly likely that Labour will bite the bullet they have been eyeing for some time. Streeting has openly called for closer ties with the EU leading to us eventually rejoining. Burnham has said similar things in the past.

When 48% didn’t want to leave in 2016 and more have shifted since this is the vote catcher they need. The point of stark difference that would enable them to retain enough seats to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and SDP. Unless the Tories stop following Reform and move back to the centre they will be finished.

For many being in the EU is the paramount political necessity so it would be a game changer.

This being something I have forecasted for a while.

How strong is UK support for rejoining the European Union?

YouGov data tracks British public opinion on our future relationship with the EU

yougov.com

With Albania lined up to join we'll have better access to all their doctors and nurses. As long as the gangsters stay at home that has to be a winner.

 

[chris123]

Oh I dare say you personally will find policies you don't like. I was talking about massive structural shifts in voting patterns.

Sorry I thought I was answering a question in your post

We spend more on welfare than we raise in income tax

 

[cryrst]

It looks increasingly likely that Labour will bite the bullet they have been eyeing for some time. Streeting has openly called for closer ties with the EU leading to us eventually rejoining. Burnham has said similar things in the past.

When 48% didn’t want to leave in 2016 and more have shifted since this is the vote catcher they need. The point of stark difference that would enable them to retain enough seats to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and SDP. Unless the Tories stop following Reform and move back to the centre they will be finished.

For many being in the EU is the paramount political necessity so it would be a game changer.

This being something I have forecasted for a while.

How strong is UK support for rejoining the European Union?

YouGov data tracks British public opinion on our future relationship with the EU

yougov.com

If they have a vote we will see what direction the uk wants to go. Maybe you didn’t see that many thousands yesterday protested about a lack of direction we are going in. The eu one is definitely a hill going down wards.

 

[georgenorman]

It looks increasingly likely that Labour will bite the bullet they have been eyeing for some time. Streeting has openly called for closer ties with the EU leading to us eventually rejoining. Burnham has said similar things in the past.

When 48% didn’t want to leave in 2016 and more have shifted since this is the vote catcher they need. The point of stark difference that would enable them to retain enough seats to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and SDP. Unless the Tories stop following Reform and move back to the centre they will be finished.

For many being in the EU is the paramount political necessity so it would be a game changer.

This being something I have forecasted for a while.

How strong is UK support for rejoining the European Union?

YouGov data tracks British public opinion on our future relationship with the EU

yougov.com

Rejoining the EU would be the final nail in our coffin. It is incredible that anyone can think it would be of benefit - it would be catastrophic. Only fools would not recognise this.

 

[georgenorman]

Oh I dare say you personally will find policies you don't like. I was talking about massive structural shifts in voting patterns.

You don't think the local council results were a massive shift in voting patterns?

 

[Common Sense Club]

It looks increasingly likely that Labour will bite the bullet they have been eyeing for some time. Streeting has openly called for closer ties with the EU leading to us eventually rejoining. Burnham has said similar things in the past.

When 48% didn’t want to leave in 2016 and more have shifted since this is the vote catcher they need. The point of stark difference that would enable them to retain enough seats to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and SDP. Unless the Tories stop following Reform and move back to the centre they will be finished.

For many being in the EU is the paramount political necessity so it would be a game changer.

This being something I have forecasted for a while.

How strong is UK support for rejoining the European Union?

YouGov data tracks British public opinion on our future relationship with the EU

yougov.com

Perhaps wait 40 years before giving the public a chance to reverse the decision…seeing that is a precedent that’s already been used by the government (of all colours).

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Perhaps wait 40 years before giving the public a chance to reverse the decision…seeing that is a precedent that’s already been used by the government (of all colours).

It was open to any government to have taken us out. It’s now open to any government to take us back in. There’s no need for another referendum, just as there was never any need for the last. Referendums have no status in our democratic system. So if Labour make a clear commitment at a General Election that they intend to rejoin, subject to satisfactory terms, then they would have the mandate they need.