Newcastle vs. Crystal Palace match thread

[Willo]

I’m as pissed off with the way JP is playing but honestly, who do we bring in. Eddie is always injured and Uche… chicken without a head springs to mind. Full of energy but not sure he knows what to do with it.

Are there any fantastic strickers available for £10 million at the moment 😂

I am in agreement with your judgement apropos Uche.

 

[ripleyeagle]

The fella with the sunbed tan next to the geordie manager… every time I see him he looks like he might have farted and followed through. Always has that look about him.

Managed Bournemouth after Eddie Howe left.

 

[samprior]

If we start to wilt around the 65-70 minute mark, and the opposition take advantage, and Glasner is aware of the failing, then he needs to do something about it before the inevitable. Except he does so after the inevitable, which means he reacts rather than takes charge. So obvious that Mateta shouldn't be on the pitch after 60 odd minutes, if at all in current form, yet he persists, and waits, and waits. As someone said above, it's like he wants to be proven wrong. No plan B.

I find it odd, earlier in the season he was actually subbing players around 60 mins when they were getting fatigued. Now, in the super congested run his plan has been start almost the same attacking 3 players and run them into the ground.

It was the same today as Fulham, wait until the players were completely shattered, lose all momentum and concede then make an attacking change. The games where Uche has actually been given time he's looked useful (certainly more useful than a shattered Mateta), and how Pino continues to start I don't know. Yes I like his attitude and he'll not stop trying but at the same time nearly everything he tries at the moment is not working.

We knew the run would be tough, plus the injuries and I can accept lackluster performances but I feel Glasner's squad decisions have made it even tougher for us.

Here's hoping for some positive injury news and potential incomings, because we desperately need both!

 

[Willo]

Managed Bournemouth after Eddie Howe left.

Jason Tindall.
I know someone who is a good friend of his. Courtesy of Jason I have been treated to hospitality at 'Dean Court', 'Bubbles' champagne bar and complimentary tickets ! 😀

 

[Honey Gee]

A reality check-in now and again never hurt anyone. NUFC fans will confirm that after, like us, last season delivered silverware never seen by most (if not all) fans inside the Newcastle Arena watching today.

Anyone associated with CPFC will remember we are CURRENTLY enjoying the most favourable period for over 50 years.

My advice is to pour yourself a drink, keep the glass half full knowing that today is still one of those days over Christmas when you have to scratch your head to remember what day of the week is.

Finally let's all keep our recent successes never far from our thoughts either!

Edward Howe just said "Take nothing away from today's victory, especially with Palace being such a quality quality side" and his comments then being echoed by our own head coach saying "it was a good performance today, just without a result"

The words of these two managers are the ones that count after all.

Every quality side has a dense patch, so perhaps we have just had ours and will now push on and end the season with a top half finish, a major European trophy and another season in Europe next season which will us to continue to attract the quality players that we do.

We are Palace of London.
Up the Palace.

 

[Eaglecoops]

Agreed the squad lacks depth and of course it will be more difficult with key players missing. But that is all the more reason to do something different to try and get results. At the moment we set up exactly the same way, with the same players in the same positions and get beaten in the same way. That’s not good enough from the manager. Maybe drop an extra man into midfield so we don’t keep getting overrun? Maybe play with an out and out winger to get some crosses in and challenge their centre halves? Maybe play a flat back four with full backs when we are missing our only recognised wing back? Maybe try two up top so JPM isn’t always isolated.

If you don’t have the players available who make your system work your job as a manager is to find a way to get results with the players you have. It won’t always work, it won’t be easy but that’s why managers are paid what they are.

Right now it’s like we are being managed by an AI programmed to do one thing.

I’ve been saying this for some time. You don’t have to reinvent the wheel, however an extra man in midfield 4-3-3 or two strikers playing close to one another with 4 midfield supporting 4-4-2 can provide a different challenge to the opposition but even more so if it better suits the personnel we currently have available.

We know that Glasner likes to play to the strengths of his squad and has settled on his adaptation of 3-4-3 or 5-2-3 depending on how you look at it. He has however previously said he prefers other systems so why we have seen no changes I am unsure.

Basically, it appears our 5/6 player missing “second” team seems incapable of being competitive at this level, so maybe it makes not a blind bit of difference what he does and he knows this. It’s certainly how it feels when you watch it.

 

[Honey Gee]

Jason Tindall.
I know someone who is a good friend of his. Courtesy of Jason I have been treated to hospitality at 'Dean Court', 'Bubbles' champagne bar and complimentary tickets ! 😀

Our own Steve Lovell. He is also the half brother of Edward H.

Let's not forget Edward Howe was also the first manager to sacrifice his wages during the pandemic which led to an array of other commanders following.

My hat was tipped then and remains tipped now. Such a lovely gesture.

 

[Paul Salvage]

If we start to wilt around the 65-70 minute mark, and the opposition take advantage, and Glasner is aware of the failing, then he needs to do something about it before the inevitable. Except he does so after the inevitable, which means he reacts rather than takes charge. So obvious that Mateta shouldn't be on the pitch after 60 odd minutes, if at all in current form, yet he persists, and waits, and waits. As someone said above, it's like he wants to be proven wrong. No plan B.

In defence of OG, I do not see he has any choice but to start with JP. Yes Uche will bring energy to the team, but I just don’t currently see a player that is ready to lead the line in the premier league.
The other issue with starting Uche is that the buy out clause kicks in after ten starts and I do not believe the club want to proceed with his purchase. (Just a guess)

I think one of the issues JP is having is that he is receiving the ball much closer to the half way line and facing his own goal. When he was on form and fully fit he would spin the defender and then run through on goal. I just don’t see him currently doing this through either a lack of fitness or the knee injury. The other issue is the lack of players running off him and supporting him. Hopefully this will change with the return of Sarr and Johnson getting up to speed.
I don’t believe a good player suddenly becomes sh!t, and no one can deny his numbers over the past year.

 

[Paul Salvage]

Can't fault the effort - just lack of ball control. Even Guehi was misplacing his passes
Our last 3 visits to Newcastle aggregate 0-11 - it's a difficult place to play. Our goal difference has slumped from +9 to -1
Hats off to the intrepid Palace supporters - you deserve medals.

I really think that Mateta needs a rest.
Henderson knocks long balls to him but he gets muscled off them nearly every time. Johnson gave him a good chance which he scuffed. He lacks pace and is an embarrassment while his resale value is plummeting.

I think Pino will be a great player when he settles in and he does try hard even if he is hassled and falls over a lot. Wharton is not at his best but is still our best passer and will have better times ahead.
Canvot played adequately but without Lerma and Richards we have no long-throw options.

If we can get Richards, Sarr, Munoz, Lerma and Kamada back we will be better balanced and should be OK.

Plus a couple more decent imports (or loans) and a long term replacement for Guehi is, or will be, needed.

Criticism of Henderson is very misplaced, he is after all England's No.2

 

[Willo]

In defence of OG, I do not see he has any choice but to start with JP. Yes Uche will bring energy to the team, but I just don’t currently see a player that is ready to lead the line in the premier league.
The other issue with starting Uche is that the buy out clause kicks in after ten starts and I do not believe the club want to proceed with his purchase. (Just a guess)

I think one of the issues JP is having is that he is receiving the ball much closer to the half way line and facing his own goal. When he was on form and fully fit he would spin the defender and then run through on goal. I just don’t see him currently doing this through either a lack of fitness or the knee injury. The other issue is the lack of players running off him and supporting him. Hopefully this will change with the return of Sarr and Johnson getting up to speed.
I don’t believe a good player suddenly becomes sh!t, and no one can deny his numbers over the past year.

I am not sure that he has ever 'Lead the line' when playing in Spain.
My understanding is that he was deployed as a defensive midfielder at his previous club.

 

[pssguy]

No player is ever undroppable, see Salah, but he's been spoken about as our greatest ever keeper recently, has made no glaring errors, has made 3 saves of the season contenders in recent weeks (another great save as I type this) and the defence in front of him is crumbling.

He's probably top 5 for performers in the last month!

Not by anyone who saw Martyn

 

[Paul Salvage]

Can't fault the effort - just lack of ball control. Even Guehi was misplacing his passes
Our last 3 visits to Newcastle aggregate 0-11 - it's a difficult place to play. Our goal difference has slumped from +9 to -1
Hats off to the intrepid Palace supporters - you deserve medals.

I really think that Mateta needs a rest.
Henderson knocks long balls to him but he gets muscled off them nearly every time. Johnson gave him a good chance which he scuffed. He lacks pace and is an embarrassment while his resale value is plummeting.

I think Pino will be a great player when he settles in and he does try hard even if he is hassled and falls over a lot. Wharton is not at his best but is still our best passer and will have better times ahead.
Canvot played adequately but without Lerma and Richards we have no long-throw options.

If we can get Richards, Sarr, Munoz, Lerma and Kamada back we will be better balanced and should be OK.

Plus a couple more decent imports (or loans) and a long term replacement for Guehi is, or will be, needed.

Criticism of Henderson is very misplaced, he is after all England's No.2

I certainly would not say that JP is an embarrassment. He is in a run of poor form/lack of fitness and is not being supported by the players around him.
So can we assume you would be happy to sell him to Man U if rumours are true?

 

[Willo]

Not by anyone who saw Martyn

A few years ago David Moyes hailed Nigel Martyn as one of his greatest signings.
He made 100 appearances for Everton.
Nigel and his dear wife Amanda are thoroughly decent human beings.

 

[Paul Salvage]

I am not sure that he has ever 'Lead the line' when playing in Spain.
My understanding is that he was deployed as a defensive midfielder at his previous club.

If he was to replace JP to give him a rest he would then have to lead the line!

 

[ASCPFC]

If he was to replace JP to give him a rest he would then have to lead the line!

Annoying that Nketiah is injured. His career seems to never quite take off. He looks ok for a while, then injured. Then needs to come back before getting injured again.

 

[ASCPFC]

A few years ago David Moyes hailed Nigel Martyn as one of his greatest signings.
He made 100 appearances for Everton.
Nigel and his dear wife Amanda are thoroughly decent human beings.

Remember Martyn being over a million and that being a lot. Seems hilarious now.

 

[ripleyeagle]

Unfair to hang the defeat on Wharton, he seemed the only one interested in attacking. Hughes hasn't scored in over 100 games, had 2 reasonable chances, but failed to even hit the target.

I thought he was fantastic in the first half and with better players in front of him would have set up many good goal scoring chances. Faded some what in the second half having to defend too much, he is too good for us I’m afraid.

 

[PatrickA]

Post match Glasner pointed out that in 5 of the last 6 defeats we have conceded goals from.set pieces which makes it difficult to win matches.
He said it's up to him and his staff to provide solutions, but at the same time pointed out the absence of what he called 'our best header of the ball ' Richards, Sarr, Munoz and Lerma who all have the physicality to defend set pieces.
I don't see the situation changing until we get some of these players back.
Clyne, Devenny, Johnson, Canvot etc will not provide the same level of aerial competition or physicality.

 

[samprior]

I am not sure that he has ever 'Lead the line' when playing in Spain.
My understanding is that he was deployed as a defensive midfielder at his previous club.

Majority of his games for Getafe were either in an attacking midfield position or striker. I think he was only ever used as a defensive midfielder in desperate situations.

 

[ASCPFC]

Villa ‘ s bogey team to continue ?

I am praying 🙏