Main Stand redevelopment thread

[mars]

Nothing will ever happen with the current plan, if the stand as it is has ballooned to £200mil we would have to give Sainsbury's £60mil for almost nothing.
Even Woody with his billions would be a fool to do that.

The current plan is not going to happen.

 

[mars]

It’s the lack of communication between The Club (Parish) and us the fans that is the most annoying aspect.
Let’s hope there’ll be an announcement soon, perhaps via Woody, that we’re gonna build a new 60k capacity stadium!

 

[dreamwaverider]

So, upping our capacity by about 8 thousand from 26 thousand to 34 thousand at the approximate cost of 200 million quid to put 8 thousand more bums on seats, that makes very sound financial sense that.

....and that's if you get capacity.

 

[dreamwaverider]

I hope you are right. From my perspective living in the are the only sensible site is Crystal Palace Park. Woody Johnson, having already built a fabulous stadium, has the organisation to see the project through. As a former US Ambassador, he also has the political know how to twist arms to get permission if Mayor Khan gets on his soap box.

Upper Norwood is where many young people look to buy their first property and thus have less connection with the area as most move out eventually. I believe objections would not be as vocal as many expect as the nearest housing is more than 300 metres away. There are few objections to the tens of thousands attending pop concerts, festivals and fireworks already taking place. Further more, with four stations and 16 bus routes, public transport to a prospective stadium would be better than nearly every Premier League side other than West Ham. And then there is the carrot of a new tram link to Croydon.

The advantage to the Club would also be the development value of Selhurst Park for hundreds of new homes with shopping, transport and schools already in place.

I still live in hope!

This has to be the solution. Take Crystal Palace home. Over a century overdue.
I can hear a song coming on.

 

[johnny the eagle]

....and that's if you get capacity.

Well, if we can't get a capacity of 34 thousand, being based where we are, the board might as well sell up and do one. We do play in the Premier League in London and not in Division 3 North of the Outer Mongolian league, don't we?

 

[est1905]

It’s the lack of communication between The Club (Parish) and us the fans that is the most annoying aspect.
Let’s hope there’ll be an announcement soon, perhaps via Woody, that we’re gonna build a new 60k capacity stadium!

60,000 is too big for Palace at this moment in time. Dont get me wrong. The catchment area is big enough to sustain an Arsenal sized club in South London. But all the pieces of the puzzle have to fit to make this happen. First success on the pitch which will increase fanbase both here and overseas. More kids asking for a Palace shirt for Christmas and seeing the red n blue out and about (instead of Liverpool/Man U shirts. Then there's sustained investment in the team. It would inadvertently help our cause even more if Charlton and Millwall continue to fail and stay out of the Prem (lessening rival club interest in the area)
Right now I think Palace would be well suited to a 40/45,000 seater stadium. But where? This has been talked to death. Local government doesn't care about Palace and has never done a thing to help us in this regard. In my view there must be somewhere we could build a brand new stadium if the will is there on all sides to get it done. The Selhurst Depot has been touted, Land near East Croydon Station. Purley Way. Even going out to Gatwick Airport (which would be handy for Euro fixtures).

I never wanted Palace to leave the borough but with local authority seemingly uninterested in helping the club stay, a stadium which is more outdated every season that goes by and a need for bigger and better facilities I cant personally see how the club ends up avoiding moving to a new site and starting again.

 

[Eagleman13]

Well, if we can't get a capacity of 34 thousand, being based where we are, the board might as well sell up and do one. We do play in the Premier League in London and not in Division 3 North of the Outer Mongolian league, don't we?

True, BUT, you get moorish Yak burgers there. Knocks our concourse one's for 6 & some.

 

[rikz]

60,000 is too big for Palace at this moment in time. Dont get me wrong. The catchment area is big enough to sustain an Arsenal sized club in South London. But all the pieces of the puzzle have to fit to make this happen. First success on the pitch which will increase fanbase both here and overseas. More kids asking for a Palace shirt for Christmas and seeing the red n blue out and about (instead of Liverpool/Man U shirts. Then there's sustained investment in the team. It would inadvertently help our cause even more if Charlton and Millwall continue to fail and stay out of the Prem (lessening rival club interest in the area)
Right now I think Palace would be well suited to a 40/45,000 seater stadium. But where? This has been talked to death. Local government doesn't care about Palace and has never done a thing to help us in this regard. In my view there must be somewhere we could build a brand new stadium if the will is there on all sides to get it done. The Selhurst Depot has been touted, Land near East Croydon Station. Purley Way. Even going out to Gatwick Airport (which would be handy for Euro fixtures).

I never wanted Palace to leave the borough but with local authority seemingly uninterested in helping the club stay, a stadium which is more outdated every season that goes by and a need for bigger and better facilities I cant personally see how the club ends up avoiding moving to a new site and starting again.

Whatever issues we have with Croydon council, we would have with any other local council, its not the councils job to help the club, if the club wants to redevelop Selhurst, then they have to commit to improving and investing in the local area. Thats just how it is.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

It’s the lack of communication between The Club (Parish) and us the fans that is the most annoying aspect.
Let’s hope there’ll be an announcement soon, perhaps via Woody, that we’re gonna build a new 60k capacity stadium!

That would be phenomenal, but it would cost a billion quid. That is a big investment.
It would also mean several more years of planning, objections and all the other red tape.

In our attendance heyday, we never really got more than 42k for a game, except for Burnley, and that included a good chunk of away fans. 40K would do with the possibility of expansion.

Selhurst could get near that with a rebuilt Whitehorse and new main stand. What you can't do is turn it into our version of the Spurs ground. That is the standard.

 

[rikz]

Its so important for the club to remain competitive over the long term. Just look at the clubs we're competing against, newcastle, Everton and West ham all get over 50k now, villa and Leeds both have plans to extend to 50k, Sunderland have a massive fan base.

Half the teams in the championship have stadiums with a capacity of atleast 30k.

Outside the top 6 you have Newcastle, Everton, West ham, villa and leeds, who're far bigger than the rest. After that there's about 30 clubs who're generally similar in size, Sunderland would probably argue they're the biggest, with Southampton just behind but there's really nothing in it. I belive having a 40k stadium puts us equal to, if not above Sunderland.

Over the next 50 years if we want to be a predominantly top tier team instead of 2nd, then we need a bigger stadium.

 

[becky]

I hope you are right. From my perspective living in the are the only sensible site is Crystal Palace Park. Woody Johnson, having already built a fabulous stadium, has the organisation to see the project through. As a former US Ambassador, he also has the political know how to twist arms to get permission if Mayor Khan gets on his soap box.

Upper Norwood is where many young people look to buy their first property and thus have less connection with the area as most move out eventually. I believe objections would not be as vocal as many expect as the nearest housing is more than 300 metres away. There are few objections to the tens of thousands attending pop concerts, festivals and fireworks already taking place. Further more, with four stations and 16 bus routes, public transport to a prospective stadium would be better than nearly every Premier League side other than West Ham. And then there is the carrot of a new tram link to Croydon.

The advantage to the Club would also be the development value of Selhurst Park for hundreds of new homes with shopping, transport and schools already in place.

I still live in hope!

I doubt that you would actually get 100's of new homes on the site since, as I understand it, there are legal covenants in place that prohibit any building on what is the pitch area, and they can be very, very hard to get set aside . This would severely restrict the design & layout of what could be built there.