US Politics

[Houston Eagle]

What double standards are there?

That they are perceived doesn’t mean they exist. Trump has always accused others of that he is himself guilty. It’s the standard response to criticism he learned from Roy Cohn.

The puzzle is why so many fall for it.

Yes Biden issued some pardons but they were primarily intended to protect the innocent from malicious, vindictive prosecution. Contrast that with pardoning 1600 people convicted of trying to overthrow democracy.

Trump is still banging on about him being the target of political Lawfare. He says it so often people start to accept it as real. It isn’t. He did things. Charges were correctly brought, which he had the total freedom to defend. The law was in action. Not politics.

Time for me to switch off politics threads for a while. All these threads are going nowhere now....

I'll stick to Palace comments and why Eze has lost his mojo, but still, he is pivotal to our successes going forward.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The pardoning of 1600 rioters, and Trump’s defence of it, are among the worst things we have witnessed from him in the last 2 days. There have been a huge number of very bad things done.

That there isn’t though an outpouring of condemnation from all quarters, whatever their political beliefs, is quite shocking and undermines my belief in the common sense possessed by most people. Perhaps though they need time to process it and now feel ashamed of themselves for defending this man in the past.

One thing I read this morning did restore my faith a little. It was a statement from one of the convicted rioters who Trump pardoned, Pam Hemphill. She has refused to accept the pardon, saying:-

"Accepting a pardon would only insult the Capitol police officers, rule of law and, of course, our nation.

I pleaded guilty because I was guilty, and accepting a pardon also would serve to contribute to their gaslighting and false narrative.

This is rewriting history and I don't want to be part of that.

We were wrong that day, we broke the law - there should be no pardons."

Well done Pam. Your attitude is, with effort and determination, what will save the USA.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Trump’s inauguration revealed the exhaustion of the Democrats

The cultural elites’ agenda is being dismantled with ruthless efficiency.

www.spiked-online.com

 

[Phil’s Barber]

At least one is headed directly to the courts. 18 states have opened a case challenging the executive order that seeks to stop the children of immigrants automatically being US citizens.

The reasoning being that he cannot do that. It’s enshrined in the constitution so the only way to achieve it is through an amendment. Amendments being the responsibility of Congress where a 2/3rd majority is needed in the Senate. So no chance.

It will go to the Supreme Court, if you knew what you were talking about Wissie you would know that. Therefore the 2/3rd majority of both Congress chambers is not the be all and end all.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It will go to the Supreme Court, if you knew what you were talking about Wissie you would know that. Therefore the 2/3rd majority of both Congress chambers is not the be all and end all.

And the Supreme Court has a Republican majority of 6 to 3.

 

[kevlee]

there is a laid down process to amend the constitution under article 5 that has been enshrined for a very long time. If that is followed then that will be that.
Just signing an executive order is unlikely to meet the constitution. I think 38 states need to support it.
Also on Newsweek it says the whitehouse has removed the constitution from its website which looks odd.
He will have to word the removal of citizenship on birth carefully- otherwise JD Vance’s wife might be sent back to India.

 

[Badger11]

there is a laid down process to amend the constitution under article 5 that has been enshrined for a very long time. If that is followed then that will be that.
Just signing an executive order is unlikely to meet the constitution. I think 38 states need to support it.
Also on Newsweek it says the whitehouse has removed the constitution from its website which looks odd.
He will have to word the removal of citizenship on birth carefully- otherwise JD Vance’s wife might be sent back to India.

He wont get a constitutional change that takes years even if Congress and the states are willing. However the current definition has been expanded by the lower courts over the decades I think he has a good chance of rolling that back to a more stricter definition under this SC.

 

[kevlee]

He wont get a constitutional change that takes years even if Congress and the states are willing. However the current definition has been expanded by the lower courts over the decades I think he has a good chance of rolling that back to a more stricter definition under this SC.

I saw his immigration Czar on sky news last night. He said they have a list of suspects that they are starting with. I imagine a large proportion will be convicted criminals from Muslim heritage and not many Americans will be shedding tears if he deports them.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It will go to the Supreme Court, if you knew what you were talking about Wissie you would know that. Therefore the 2/3rd majority of both Congress chambers is not the be all and end all.

The Supreme Court cannot amend the constitution. They can only rule on its application.

From all I have read there is no room for any other interpretation of the constitution than that those born in the USA are automatically citizens. Even a SC hand picked by Trump cannot overturn that.

It needs Congress and that’s not going to happen. Just as impeaching Trump was always symbolic so is this.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

And the Supreme Court has a Republican majority of 6 to 3.

Correct.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Correct.

It could have a majority of 9-0 but not make any difference!

They are still servants of the law and the constitution, whatever debt of personal loyalty they might owe to Trump.

Before he was elected they clarified the ruling that says a sitting President cannot be prosecuted but did not say a former President could not be, which is what Trump was expecting.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

It could have a majority of 9-0 but not make any difference!

They are still servants of the law and the constitution, whatever debt of personal loyalty they might owe to Trump.

Before he was elected they clarified the ruling that says a sitting President cannot be prosecuted but did not say a former President could not be, which is what Trump was expecting.

You are wrong and absolutely deluded if you think that either the Republicans or Democrats having a 9-0 majority in USA Supreme Court would make no difference to outcome or decision making.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You are wrong and absolutely deluded if you think that either the Republicans or Democrats having a 9-0 majority in USA Supreme Court would make no difference to outcome or decision making.

I didn’t say that. Having a majority of conservative Justices on the Court clearly already does make a difference. Just look at the way they overturned Roe v Wade for evidence of that.

They can only though interpret what a constitution requirement means. They cannot rewrite it and all the legal experts I have read on this are suggesting there is only one interpretation. It’s watertight.

 

[Jimenez]

I saw his immigration Czar on sky news last night. He said they have a list of suspects that they are starting with. I imagine a large proportion will be convicted criminals from Muslim heritage and not many Americans will be shedding tears if he deports them.

It would depend on the City/State. In NY/NYC my guess is that they would target Tren De Aguas & MS13 as well as the Mexican Mafia

 

[ASCPFC]

If immigration want to deport people in the states they will. What the constitution says about citizenship won't matter unless they manage to get a lawyer there and then. Which they won't - so it's goodbye or more likely adiós.

 

[Badger11]

It would depend on the City/State. In NY/NYC my guess is that they would target Tren De Aguas & MS13 as well as the Mexican Mafia

If Trump wants a quick win he can deport the prison population that are on short jail sentences or are coming to the end of their jail terms. It's a lot easier as you know where they are and they are criminals.