US Politics

[Wisbech Eagle]

Indeed, executive orders are somewhat problematic. Even Henry VIII used to get push back on some of his decrees. Although say much out loud and you likely lost your head.

The way Trump is punishing those who try to stand in his way, or even voice criticism, that comment is a little ironic.

I have heard some of his supporters call for the death penalty for people like Fauci.

 

[ASCPFC]

The way Trump is punishing those who try to stand in his way, or even voice criticism, that comment is a little ironic.

I have heard some of his supporters call for the death penalty for people like Fauci.

That's relatively ironic in itself as there were constant calls to kill Trump - which may or may not have contributed to an attempt to do so. Does anyone really care about Fauci anymore? I think there are bigger things to deal with in the present.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Exactly and it appears that in many cases this CIA front was just throwing money at people who resent America and in some cases hate them.

Wait until they get to Syria....cus we all know what's happened there.

Some dark, dark and dirty people in the US.

USAID is clearly not a CIA front. It’s a ridiculous assertion. It’s an excuse. Not a reason.

If there are programmes being funded via it that are now seen as undesirable then there are ways of dealing with them without just opening the plug and letting everything, baby and all, flow into oblivion. It’s cruel and ultimately counterproductive.

Congress and the Judiciary must, and I am sure will, act.

 

[Stirlingsays]

That's relatively ironic in itself as there were constant calls to kill Trump - which may or may not have contributed to an attempt to do so. Does anyone really care about Fauci anymore? I think there are bigger things to deal with in the present.

Indeed, just recently we have had some Democrat leaders using language....which when Trump says it ('take to the streets', 'push back') is 'inciting violence', yet when they say it is apparently fine.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That's relatively ironic in itself as there were constant calls to kill Trump - which may or may not have contributed to an attempt to do so. Does anyone really care about Fauci anymore? I think there are bigger things to deal with in the present.

I heard no calls to kill Trump! Prosecute him for his many illegal acts, yes, but always through the law. Some nutters no doubt did, but there are nutters out there, especially in the USA where guns are so widespread.

I bet Fauci and his family care that his protection has been withdrawn and that the level of aggressive misinformation that’s been fed into the minds of Trump’s base means he is at serious risk.

 

[beak]

OK. Are you seriously claiming that if Trump were to "police" Britain that there wouldn't be any complaints?

I am SERIOUSLY suggesting that the biggest country in the world takes responsibility for getting involved in trouble spots in the world. Britain had that mantle a century ago.Britain is not a trouble spot.D'oh!

 

[beak]

What a country spends its taxpayer's money on.....and it needs to be remembered, when you talk about 'policing the world' a huge number of Americans don't agree with that....In fact I doubt many Democrat voters even agree with too much of it....especially with the state of much American infrastructure.

Trump campaigned on auditing American spending and cutting back on funding.....it's not as though this wasn't being said pretty much at every speech and as Trump won all three branches of government he has the right to do all this.

When you hear the outrage that's mainly coming from the US Democratic supporting media or BBC types and the affected workers of this agency.....they are involved in these underhand scams on the taxpayer.

When you hear what America was spending money on....taxpayer money....it's outrageous.....Here's Joe Rogan to list just a snippet.

You have just summed up why the world is in a mess,no policing so sniveling little gits like Putin take advantage.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Indeed, just recently we have had some Democrat leaders using language....which when Trump says it ('take to the streets', 'push back') is 'inciting violence', yet when they say it is apparently fine.

Context is everything.

Pushing back against an imagined election “fraud”, which was totally discredited and admitted to have been an invention to try to retain power, is indeed inciting violence.

Pushing back against unconstitutional executive orders which are attempting to bypass Congress and the constitution, is a constitutional duty.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

I am SERIOUSLY suggesting that the biggest country in the world takes responsibility for getting involved in trouble spots in the world. Britain had that mantle a century ago.Britain is not a trouble spot.D'oh!

Not all American foreign Policy is to be admired.
No exit strategy from Iraq and the rise of IS.
Vietnam
Afghanistan
Noraid
Cuba
the Contras funding.

 

[Stirlingsays]

You have just summed up why the world is in a mess,no policing so sniveling little gits like Putin take advantage.

How does that make sense.

You have had America doing all this massive funding for decades (since Kennedy) and what has it achieved exactly? Other than letting America's infrastructure rot while it hands out vast sums to countries that...in many cases hate it and work against it.

Russia literally has the economic ability of Italy....or California...something like that.

If Putin offends you so much then take yourself off to Ukraine, why should it be America's problem?

All it gets is resentment, same as us when we did it.

Besides this is Trump auditing.....He will just align spending to his actual aims rather than stop it all.....but a lot of that waste that doesn't work for the US taxpayer will stop.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Indeed, executive orders are somewhat problematic. Even Henry VIII used to get push back on some of his decrees. Although say much out loud and you likely lost your head.

I think it's valid to criticise the existent of executive orders just as it's valid to criticise presidential pardons.....At least a system that puts them without number or limit as we see all presidents abuse them now.

However, we note that the people complaining now, were silent on both when they had a Democrat doing it......It was difficult to even get some of them to criticise Biden pardoning his crime family.

However, there is no dictatorship here, nothing Trump is doing is illegal and they are just talking utter claptrap. They might.....all of a sudden.....not like the US system but this has always been their system since way back.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

I heard no calls to kill Trump! Prosecute him for his many illegal acts, yes, but always through the law. Some nutters no doubt did, but there are nutters out there, especially in the USA where guns are so widespread.

Just because YOU didn’t hear them doesn’t mean there weren’t any - There were BTW!

You said Tommy Robinson was not likely to return to the UK to face the courts and then went on to say you hadn’t seen any reports of him returning to the UK - Despite the fact that Two days earlier his return had been LIVE streamed on the internet and then covered and reported on extensively by EVERY major news channel and publication in the UK. 😂

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I am SERIOUSLY suggesting that the biggest country in the world takes responsibility for getting involved in trouble spots in the world. Britain had that mantle a century ago.Britain is not a trouble spot.D'oh!

The point is, Homer, that the decision as to whether Britain or anywhere is a trouble spot would rest with Mr Trump, not us or anyone else.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Context is everything.

Pushing back against an imagined election “fraud”, which was totally discredited and admitted to have been an invention to try to retain power, is indeed inciting violence.

Pushing back against unconstitutional executive orders which are attempting to bypass Congress and the constitution, is a constitutional duty.

Saying executive orders aren't constitutional is misinformation.

*copied from Wikipedia.

'Executive orders are directives issued by the President of the United States that manage the operations of the federal government. While the U.S. Constitution does not explicitly mention executive orders, they are considered constitutional based on the President's broad executive powers granted by Article II of the Constitution.

The President's authority to issue executive orders comes from two primary sources:

1. The Constitution: Article II, Section 1 vests executive power in the President, and Section 3 requires the President to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed.
2. Acts of Congress: Congress can delegate specific powers to the President, allowing the issuance of executive orders to achieve certain goals.

Executive orders are subject to judicial review and can be overturned if they exceed the President's authority or conflict with existing laws.'

 

[Stirlingsays]

For those that want to go down the USAID rabbit hole, Tucker Carlson had an interview with Mike Benz recently....who was formerly of the State Department in 2016.....and he's been revealing the rot at the heart of that system for years now. Here is the interview.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1888054969145651464

 

[Teddy Eagle]

That’s not relevant to the point I made.

Ensuring that sport is fair involves more than just favouring the majority. If the person making the rules is unapologetically prejudiced then fairness will not happen.

It's not just the majority. It is the vast majority, well over 99%.
Where was this criticism when different sports made the same decision.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Context is everything.

Pushing back against an imagined election “fraud”, which was totally discredited and admitted to have been an invention to try to retain power, is indeed inciting violence.

Pushing back against unconstitutional executive orders which are attempting to bypass Congress and the constitution, is a constitutional duty.

Just saying 'context is everything' is meaningless.

The words either 'incite violence' or they don't 'incite violence'.

The underlying reason for them being spoken is neither here nor there.

The reality is that we see that when Trump does it, democrat supporters say it's 'inciting violence'....even though he explicitly states to be peaceful.....but when democrats use similar language....without adding 'be peaceful' by the way....suddenly we here that 'context is everything'.

Exposed for all objective people to see.

 

[Badger11]

Saying executive orders aren't constitutional is misinformation.

*copied from Wikipedia.

'Executive orders are directives issued by the President of the United States that manage the operations of the federal government. While the U.S. Constitution does not explicitly mention executive orders, they are considered constitutional based on the President's broad executive powers granted by Article II of the Constitution.

The President's authority to issue executive orders comes from two primary sources:

1. The Constitution: Article II, Section 1 vests executive power in the President, and Section 3 requires the President to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed.
2. Acts of Congress: Congress can delegate specific powers to the President, allowing the issuance of executive orders to achieve certain goals.

Executive orders are subject to judicial review and can be overturned if they exceed the President's authority or conflict with existing laws.'

Two tier standards again. Lots of Presidents have used them and the press and congress didn't go into meltdown. What is the point of having a directly elected President if he doesn't have any power?

As for his illegal acts, most of FDR's New deal was struck down by the SC for being illegal and it never harmed his creditability.

Activists will contest every executive order that Trump makes and the courts will have to decide. trump will win some and lose some. Those that he loses he can always ask congress to legislate on if he feels the need to. Nothing to see here.

 

[Houston Eagle]

I heard no calls to kill Trump! Prosecute him for his many illegal acts, yes, but always through the law. Some nutters no doubt did, but there are nutters out there, especially in the USA where guns are so widespread.

I bet Fauci and his family care that his protection has been withdrawn and that the level of aggressive misinformation that’s been fed into the minds of Trump’s base means he is at serious risk.

You see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and believe what you think it right. All normal behaviors but it doesn’t make it correct.

You are right about context but politicians, media and Trump haters alike have fueled the flames for years that this existential threat to democracy needs to be “removed”.

Even Biden seemed to pull back in case it did happen and the blow back would be catastrophic.

I’m not sure if you are trying to be humorous in pretending people haven’t wanted Trump dead!!

 

[ASCPFC]

It's not just the majority. It is the vast majority, well over 99%.
Where was this criticism when different sports made the same decision.

I noticed the trans player at the darts didn't seem to cause much controversy in the end. Although there was quite a bit of discussion beforehand. I can't remember the full details but had played as a man (for argument's sake maybe 180 in the world or something) but became a woman and competed in the women's darts. I think they lost relatively quickly which might explain the lack of controversy somewhat.