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georgenorman said:
Most of the saving will be made by sacking unnecessary jobs and staff, scraping daft rules and regulations, and running things efficiently and rationally. You know, the sorts of measures that we should implement in our own public services.
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It’s you who is daft.

The biggest cost of all is debt. Nobody to sack there.

If you sacked every federal employee you couldn’t achieve the promise, but you would leave the country unable to defend itself and obligated to pay even more in social security.

Every government wants to cut waste. Many promise it to get themselves elected, people fall for it and get disillusioned when they inevitably fail.

Only Thatcher succeeded by privatisation to transfer work to the private sector. Which produces its own problems. Just look at energy, water companies, the rail network and BT.

Trump will increase Federal spending, not cut it. Musk will recommend sacking lots, run into brick walls and have many arguments. It’s possible he will lose patience as he is used to gettIng his own way.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It’s you who is daft.

The biggest cost of all is debt. Nobody to sack there.

If you sacked every federal employee you couldn’t achieve the promise, but you would leave the country unable to defend itself and obligated to pay even more in social security.

Every government wants to cut waste. Many promise it to get themselves elected, people fall for it and get disillusioned when they inevitably fail.

Only Thatcher succeeded by privatisation to transfer work to the private sector. Which produces its own problems. Just look at energy, water companies, the rail network and BT.

Trump will increase Federal spending, not cut it. Musk will recommend sacking lots, run into brick walls and have many arguments. It’s possible he will lose patience as he is used to gettIng his own way.
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Excessive government and excessive taxation are the curse of our times. Should all be cut back to the essentials and the essentials should also be weeded of the dead wood and needless aspects.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Although you are probably correct, i am expecting all the Lefties to refuse to take their electoral defeat lying down.
We all know they don't like democracy.
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Nothing to do with anything remotely politically left.

It’s only to do with common sense, decency and the rule of law.

If you voted for Trump then found your job under threat I don’t suppose you would either be too pleased or think yourself a leftie.
 
georgenorman said:
Excessive government and excessive taxation are the curse of our times. Should all be cut back to the essentials and the essentials should also be weeded of the dead wood and needless aspects.
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Says every government in waiting.

Governments in office find they need people to do the things they want to do and often find it costs more to do them than not do anything.
 
People who say they're no big cuts in public spending should look at how the public services have grown exponentially in the last 50 years.

By simplifying the tax code for instance you can make the IRS or HMRC over here more efficient whilst saving business and individuals huge amounts in time and accountancy fees. Across the economy they're are huge swathes of red tape which the blob loves of course because it means they need more people to do the work.

The real issue is not are there savings to be made, but will the blob allow it. In this country the answer is no, maybe maybe Trump and Musk can get it done in the US but I am not hopeful.
 
no matter how keen and/or competent will Trump be. And his team. It is unavoidable that the rot, at the core of US politics, is as big as the Rot in the Western Roman Empire circa 300 AD.

i doubt Trump will be able to even begin to fix America. The contrast between 1946 America and Today is total. Debt, uncompetitiveness, drugs, family breakdown & infertility, crime, open borders, social & ethnic divisions, guns, Antifa & woke shyte, terrorism............what a mess
 
Stirlingsays said:
The effect that the appointment of Matt Gaetz to attorney general can't be understated. That guy is like the Tom Homan pick to border control and is a completely radical change in the opposite direction.....it'll be a mad scramble for managerial staff but no one can say Trump doesn't have the mandate.

Matt Gaetz is about as hard core as you could appoint.

Bannon is going to get his 2016 'American Carnage' instead of it being all talk.

In 2016 Trump tried to gain acceptance from the system only to be screwed over by it. This time he is going to go hard with no lube.....the first two years of this administration is going to have a lot of blood in the water.

Trump's appointments are hard core loyalists rather than GOP stewards......other than Marco Rubio to secretary of state....strange pick that one, probably a donor insisted.
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I doubt the experienced and highly professional attorneys in the DoJ will be welcoming the appointment of Gaetz. Who is as unsuited to be AG as Trump is to be President.

So I anticipate both resignations and internal resistance to anything that resembles moves toward Project 2025. Something that it seems Gaetz had a role in shaping.

The attempted politicisation of Justice in the USA, which Trump and his dumb followers have been busy trying to lay at the door of the Democrats as the wheels of the law tried to reel in Trump’s corruption, is now about to really be witnessed.

How long I wonder will all those posting here who are not really on the hard right but just lean right go on defending this man?
 
Badger11 said:
People who say they're no big cuts in public spending should look at how the public services have grown exponentially in the last 50 years.

By simplifying the tax code for instance you can make the IRS or HMRC over here more efficient whilst saving business and individuals huge amounts in time and accountancy fees. Across the economy they're are huge swathes of red tape which the blob loves of course because it means they need more people to do the work.

The real issue is not are there savings to be made, but will the blob allow it. In this country the answer is no, maybe maybe Trump and Musk can get it done in the US but I am not hopeful.
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There is, of course, some truth in this although I would not suggest it is deliberate on behalf of the civil service. They are just as entangled in the web as everyone else.

It’s not whether the civil service will allow it! It’s whether the complexity of trying to untangle it would result in more cost than it saves.

I am just doing my tax returns which this year are unbelievably complicated and difficult to manage effectively. The failure to uprate allowances is especially painful and the pain will increase until at least 2028.

I have accepted the need to tax the retired more heavily in our present circumstances but have been shocked to discover all the little traps that have been planted. Not many by the way by the current government. They catch me next year.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
no matter how keen and/or competent will Trump be. And his team. It is unavoidable that the rot, at the core of US politics, is as big as the Rot in the Western Roman Empire circa 300 AD.

i doubt Trump will be able to even begin to fix America. The contrast between 1946 America and Today is total. Debt, uncompetitiveness, drugs, family breakdown & infertility, crime, open borders, social & ethnic divisions, guns, Antifa & woke shyte, terrorism............what a mess
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It certainly is a mess, but the rot started many years ago. Too many people with a sense of entitlement, eating too much and doing too little.

There isn’t, of course, anything wrong in correcting past injustices and inequalities but it has to be done with care and at a pace which allows people to travel with the change rather than resist it. Being awake being better than permanently asleep.

Nor are there open borders. There are illegal migrants avoiding detection.

There’s certainly division, far too much debt and a ridiculous number of guns. Drug taking is a symptom of the entitlement problem.

Solving it will require a leader with vision who can inspire both sides of the divide. That’s not Trump.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I doubt the experienced and highly professional attorneys in the DoJ will be welcoming the appointment of Gaetz. Who is as unsuited to be AG as Trump is to be President.

So I anticipate both resignations and internal resistance to anything that resembles moves toward Project 2025. Something that it seems Gaetz had a role in shaping.

The attempted politicisation of Justice in the USA, which Trump and his dumb followers have been busy trying to lay at the door of the Democrats as the wheels of the law tried to reel in Trump’s corruption, is now about to really be witnessed.

How long I wonder will all those posting here who are not really on the hard right but just lean right go on defending this man?
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Probably for as long as those not on the extreme left have gone on defending Biden.
 
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