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The Guardian has decided to stop posting on X aka Twitter. Personally I think this is toys and prams, I doubt Elon Musk will care about a newspaper with a daily circulation of about 100,000.

LOL. Virtue signaling for their few remaining paying customers. The bit I don't get is that legacy media such as 'The Guardian' are literally on their last legs so they deny themselves access to the most influential media platform out there. And for what? They will soon come crawling back to it.

All because they don't like the outcome of an election. Beyond pathetic.
 
I do recall millions of right wing had a problem dealing with Trumps loss last time round. Many of them decided to take it into their own hands and invade the capitol. People died.

As to why trump won, its simple, he and his people have lied lied lied so much the past 8 years that people's heads are spinning and seemingly willing to believe anything that comes their way thats even remotely believeable. The democrats are far far behind on the misinformation game, and instead chose to believe that telling the truth(or as close to the truth as your typical politician can get) would win them the day. Plus your average american will vote the way of their wallet, or what they believe to be better for their wallet, and many were convinced the prices increases were a result of Democratic policy. If you look at the facts, inflation started just 2 months after Biden took office, and peaked 14 months later before going down literally every months since then. Anyone with economics knowledge will tell you that was the result of the previous administration, not the current one. But american do not look for facts, they look for scapegoat and blame, and the misinformation game won big time.

47% of women aged 45+ voted for trump !
57% of latino men voted for trump
24% of black men voted for trump
Wissie, why didn’t you tell us you were moving to Miami?
 
LOL. Virtue signaling for their few remaining paying customers. The bit I don't get is that legacy media such as 'The Guardian' are literally on their last legs so they deny themselves access to the most influential media platform out there. And for what? They will soon come crawling back to it.

All because they don't like the outcome of an election. Beyond pathetic.
What we would expect from a 'newspaper' that panders to the student politics mentality.

By 'toxic' they mean no longer under the control of woke loons.
 
What we would expect from a 'newspaper' that panders to the student politics mentality.

By 'toxic' they mean no longer under the control of woke loons.


The abandonment of any kind of notion of 'free-speech' by many on the Left is a genuine eye-opener. They leave an open playing field and the purity spirals they get themselves embroiled in effectively limit their reach. We live in an age in which the biggest increases for the 'far' right are all amongst the youngest groups of voters. And yet the Left would not rather not compete for their attention lest they be tainted by it. Saw some footage of literal Nazi's engaging with some young Antifa type. They were not shouting or screaming at him. Instead just talking. Telling him they understood why he wanted to rebel. To fight. And how they had real hopes for him switching over to their side, with the kid even laughing along with them by the end. One of the most encouraging areas of growth for the Right at the moment is in running youth clubs and organisations. Engaging with young people. Where as the Left, they only want people who are already fully formed and will not tolerate anything than utter adherence.

Which is excellent news. Long may it continue. And if you want an example of just how ludicrous this insanity is becoming, feast your eyes on this....

A bridge leaves Twitter....
 
The abandonment of any kind of notion of 'free-speech' by many on the Left is a genuine eye-opener. They leave an open playing field and the purity spirals they get themselves embroiled in effectively limit their reach. We live in an age in which the biggest increases for the 'far' right are all amongst the youngest groups of voters. And yet the Left would not rather not compete for their attention lest they be tainted by it. Saw some footage of literal Nazi's engaging with some young Antifa type. They were not shouting or screaming at him. Instead just talking. Telling him they understood why he wanted to rebel. To fight. And how they had real hopes for him switching over to their side, with the kid even laughing along with them by the end. One of the most encouraging areas of growth for the Right at the moment is in running youth clubs and organisations. Engaging with young people. Where as the Left, they only want people who are already fully formed and will not tolerate anything than utter adherence.

Which is excellent news. Long may it continue. And if you want an example of just how ludicrous this insanity is becoming, feast your eyes on this....

A bridge leaves Twitter....
Clearly a bridge too far (to the left)
 
Apparently they did ask the Rotherhithe tunnel if it was considering leaving Twitter and it told the person asking to go and f*** themselves. Tunnels don't run.
They must be an underground movement.
 
as a public backlash against 'woke' , the americans have elected a madman into the Oval Office.

hilarious

I hope the imminent Irish General Election goes the same way. Vote for mr Crazy. Cos the so called normals are all woke-traitors.
 
1. You are assuming that there is no fat in the public service.
2. I agree that some jobs are vital so this is where someone like Musk will have to prove his judgement by not hurting those jobs.
3. As I said in my post I would look at the big picture e.g. why do we even do this, rather than can we do with with less people.
4. Politics in the US is all about pork barrel. I will vote for your legislation if you open a federal department in my state (lots of well paid jobs). NASA launches rockets from Florida yet Mission Control is in Texas. There is plenty of scope to rationalise this however I doubt the blob will allow it.

We will see.
No I'm not. In fact I said quite the opposite.

Musk is mighty but, as you suggest, he will not be able to outwit and outmuscle powerful and entrenched political vested interests. The $trillions spent on defence in the USA is not to protect their nation, or to make money from arms sales, or to ensure their hat is always biggest in the ring, but to ensure there are lucrative jobs in important voting states.
 
This is a really interesting appointment. Will Musk be able to reduce the blob?

If you think this is just political revenge rather than good governance think about this. Yes I know it's the UK.

Back in the 1970's the DTI was responsible for power, railways, mines, steelworks, British Airways, the Post Office, Car manufactures etc etc. In other words the DTI had control over a huge swathe of the economy.

Today nearly all of that is privatised or gone and yet the DTI is still just as big if not bigger, why?

Most governments promise to cut back waste but really tinker around the edges e.g. lets cut staff by 5% (whilst also creating new bureaucratic jobs elsewhere).

Musk will ask the basic question, do we even need this department at all?

Another example from the UK. There are over 80 Quangos for the Arts? Think about that 80? I can see the need for 1 each for Broadcasting, Music, Theatre, Museums / galleries etc. but 80?

Another example. Our tax system gets more complicated year on year. HMRC has to employ more and more people to manage this. However if the government of the day simplified our tax system by closing all the loopholes and tax breaks then tax reporting and collecting would be a lot simpler and require less staff.

It will be interesting to see if Musk will identify significant savings, and if he can fight the blob to implement them. What will America look like afterwards? Will these cuts be seen as ill judged or will the taxpayer say hooray.
Musk has said he can save $2 trillion in federal spending. Which is around 1\3 rd of the total. As by far the greatest amount is committed to military pensions, Medicare, and other non negotiable obligations it would require the abandonment of entire programs to even approach that figure. Withdrawing funding from the military, education or homeland security combined wouldn’t do it.

Add the fact that Trump has promised to increase spending on, for instance, the removal of the undocumented, and you can see what nonsense it is.

Just more lies to hook the gullible, who are no more intelligent that the fish they resemble. Now they are in the pan and will be fried.
 
Musk has said he can save $2 trillion in federal spending. Which is around 1\3 rd of the total. As by far the greatest amount is committed to military pensions, Medicare, and other non negotiable obligations it would require the abandonment of entire programs to even approach that figure. Withdrawing funding from the military, education or homeland security combined wouldn’t do it.

Add the fact that Trump has promised to increase spending on, for instance, the removal of the undocumented, and you can see what nonsense it is.

Just more lies to hook the gullible, who are no more intelligent that the fish they resemble. Now they are in the pan and will be fried.
Most of the saving will be made by sacking unnecessary jobs and staff, scraping daft rules and regulations, and running things efficiently and rationally. You know, the sorts of measures that we should implement in our own public services.
 
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No I'm not. In fact I said quite the opposite.

Musk is mighty but, as you suggest, he will not be able to outwit and outmuscle powerful and entrenched political vested interests. The $trillions spent on defence in the USA is not to protect their nation, or to make money from arms sales, or to ensure their hat is always biggest in the ring, but to ensure there are lucrative jobs in important voting states.

It's a reasonable point.

Personally I doubt that Trump will attack the military budget much if at all.

It's direction and use perhaps (we will see) but that budget is a good part of America's whole foreign policy strength and influence.
 
Musk has to be really careful, and i don't under-estimate his cunning.

But he will have to be as cunning as the most cunning of all cunning foxes, to not instigate strikes in critical Government Departments and bring the country to a standstill, whilst making efficiencies.

This isn't like laying off low-paid workers who have no Union representation
 
Musk has said he can save $2 trillion in federal spending. Which is around 1\3 rd of the total. As by far the greatest amount is committed to military pensions, Medicare, and other non negotiable obligations it would require the abandonment of entire programs to even approach that figure. Withdrawing funding from the military, education or homeland security combined wouldn’t do it.

Add the fact that Trump has promised to increase spending on, for instance, the removal of the undocumented, and you can see what nonsense it is.

Just more lies to hook the gullible, who are no more intelligent that the fish they resemble. Now they are in the pan and will be fried.
Has any timescale been mentioned for these savings? The projected spend over the next 10 years is
$ 82.2 trillion. Drastic changes don't necessarily have to be made to current spending if they cut some proposed increases.
 
The effect that the appointment of Matt Gaetz to attorney general can't be understated. That guy is like the Tom Homan pick to border control and is a completely radical change in the opposite direction.....it'll be a mad scramble for managerial staff but no one can say Trump doesn't have the mandate.

Matt Gaetz is about as hard core as you could appoint.

Bannon is going to get his 2016 'American Carnage' instead of it being all talk.

In 2016 Trump tried to gain acceptance from the system only to be screwed over by it. This time he is going to go hard with no lube.....the first two years of this administration is going to have a lot of blood in the water.

Trump's appointments are hard core loyalists rather than GOP stewards......other than Marco Rubio to secretary of state....strange pick that one, probably a donor insisted.
 
In 2016 Trump tried to gain acceptance from the system only to be screwed over by it. This time he is going to go hard with no lube.....the first two years of this administration is going to have a lot of blood in the water.

Although you are probably correct, i am expecting all the Lefties to refuse to take their electoral defeat lying down.
We all know they don't like democracy.
 
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