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Matov said:
Well quite. And look at Bill Clinton. Imagine if Trump had been caught sticking cigars up some young interns private parts in the actual Oval Office? Let alone DNA tests showing whatever on her dress.

And yet the man is still looked up to by many on the Left.

He has the magic sauce (in more ways than most in old Billy boys case).
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Neither JFK nor Clinton were anything like as bad as Trump. They abused their position with women and were disloyal to their wives but Trump’s behaviour makes them look like paragons of virtue. It’s on another scale completely and goes way beyond just sexual misbehaviour.
 
steeleye20 said:
There is plenty of time to prepare (or take evasive action) when there is a new president.

Inauguration is not until January 20th 2025.

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So...build a bunker? Emigrate? Buy a Hazmat suit? Learn to play lots of Leonard Cohen songs on the cello? Lay in a stock of booze and spend four years getting steaming? Decide things aren't so bad and carry on as normal?
 
Spiderman said:
About time, now for us!
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Not a chance in hell.

After 4 more years of Trump can you seriously believe that the 70% + in the UK who don’t like him will be attracted to Farage as a consequence?

Trump being elected might look, at face value, to be good news for Reform, and the other hard right parties in Europe, but I suspect that with time and experience it will prove otherwise.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Correct.

And the Kamala supporters....?..........she seemed to only appeal to the wallets of Single mothers on the dole ( with deadbeat unemployed runaway dads )

- University Feminists
- Soy Boys
- Antifa

- Socialists/ Commies /
- LGBTQ activists
- climate-change bores
- The investors of the Military-Industrial Complex


.......and precious little other supporters for Kamala.
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You are such a nice person aren’t you?

Not a whiff of prejudice or lack of social awareness.
 
The thing I struggle to understand about the Trump hysteria is that he never actually did anything that bad. I saw him as a MAJOR disappointment in his first term and to be fair, will not believe he will be any different until I see not only the appointments he makes but if he gets the J6 Patriots out of jail and looks to prosecute that piece of s*** who executed that poor lady inside the White House then I will start believing the hype.

But until then I suspect just more of the same really.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
And been elected President twice.
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The reasons for which will doubtless result in many books and even more opinions.

It surely isn’t because he is suitable or full of healing and leadersip.

It’s been obvious for a long time that there is something seriously wrong within the USA but the scale of the divide that’s been created and then widened by Trump is distressing to witness.

One take I came across earlier is worth sharing as it demonstrates how others see things very differently -

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Wisbech Eagle said:
The reasons for which will doubtless result in many books and even more opinions.

It surely isn’t because he is suitable or full of healing and leadersip.

It’s been obvious for a long time that there is something seriously wrong within the USA but the scale of the divide that’s been created and then widened by Trump is distressing to witness.

One take I came across earlier is worth sharing as it demonstrates how others see things very differently -

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Had Kamala run an even moderately competent campaign she would have probably won. But she didn't.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Don’t be so daft.

The dignity with which both Biden and Harris have accepted the will of the people and promised a smooth transfer of power stands in stark contrast to the way Trump behaved in 2020. He literally behaved like a spoilt kid and threw his toys out of the pram.
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And Americans didn't care.
 
Matov said:
The thing I struggle to understand about the Trump hysteria is that he never actually did anything that bad. I saw him as a MAJOR disappointment in his first term and to be fair, will not believe he will be any different until I see not only the appointments he makes but if he gets the J6 Patriots out of jail and looks to prosecute that piece of s*** who executed that poor lady inside the White House then I will start believing the hype.

But until then I suspect just more of the same really.
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Great. Let’s reward insurrectionists and prosecute law enforcement officers trying to protect legislators from them.

That’s the right way to ensure everyone behaves lawfully.

If he did that I suspect he would find the entire legal and law enforcement world would distance themselves from him and he might even have difficulties with the security services and secret service.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
And Americans didn't care.
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Lots of them did, and do.

Like Brexit this was a close run thing.

Like Brexit time can change perceptions and minds, especially when, inevitably, promises get broken or the consequences of doing them are actually painful.

If the promised repatriation doesn’t happen, as it surely won’t due to legal delays and the refusal of countries to cooperate, then the moaning will start.

If tariffs raise prices and inflation soars, as it will, then the realisation that Biden had actually managed the economy well will sink in.

It only needs a few to make a big difference. They just need to wait 4 years.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Had Kamala run an even moderately competent campaign she would have probably won. But she didn't.
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Best await the detailed analysis of that. I think they ran a smart campaign and the loss must have been down to something else. Something they nor anyone else had anticipated.

If Trump’s was the smart one I despair for the future of politics.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Lots of them did, and do.

Like Brexit this was a close run thing.

Like Brexit time can change perceptions and minds, especially when, inevitably, promises get broken or the consequences of doing them are actually painful.

If the promised repatriation doesn’t happen, as it surely won’t due to legal delays and the refusal of countries to cooperate, then the moaning will start.

If tariffs raise prices and inflation soars, as it will, then the realisation that Biden had actually managed the economy well will sink in.

It only needs a few to make a big difference. They just need to wait 4 years.
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Is this from the same crystal ball that predicted he'd be in prison by now?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Best await the detailed analysis of that. I think they ran a smart campaign and the loss must have been down to something else. Something they nor anyone else had anticipated.

If Trump’s was the smart one I despair for the future of politics.
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Most have despaired of politics for years which is partly why Trump won. Another part is that the Democrats spent more time attacking him than outlining what they'd actually do if re-elected. That was a mistake.
 
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