US Politics

[cryrst]

There are other analyses emerging. Including the idea that racism and anti feminist sentiment played a significant role with some. Notably, older “white” people, men in particular but not exclusively.

I subscribe to the regular emails circulated by Andrew Torba, who owns Gab. Most are full of irrational extreme religious nonsense but the one yesterday morning was imploring women to get their men off their couches and get out and vote for Trump to ensure Harris failed. The terminology was extreme, unpleasant and covertly racist. The USA really is very socially backward.

From the leader of the ‘anyone but trump’ brigade. Lush 😂

 

[Teddy Eagle]

There are other analyses emerging. Including the idea that racism and anti feminist sentiment played a significant role with some. Notably, older “white” people, men in particular but not exclusively.

I subscribe to the regular emails circulated by Andrew Torba, who owns Gab. Most are full of irrational extreme religious nonsense but the one yesterday morning was imploring women to get their men off their couches and get out and vote for Trump to ensure Harris failed. The terminology was extreme, unpleasant and covertly racist. The USA really is very socially backward.

That's not exactly emerging. It's been an ongoing narrative - voting against Kamala Harris automatically makes someone a racist. Identity politics in a nutshell.
By this logic voting against Trump makes people rabid misandrists.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I think like most things you are overthinking the outcomes!!!

When the media clip comments and regurgitate them in a negative way, it’s a dangerous game!

In my opinion, the sun will rise tomorrow, the tanks will not roll into blue cities (unless lawlessness persists), targeted criminal illegals will be deported, NATO will remain strong!

I am sure the sun will rise tomorrow and there won’t be any kind of immediate fall out. Everyone needs to take a breath and get some sleep. Nothing Trump has suggested can be implemented until Jan 20th anyway.

That doesn’t mean nothing will happen. This scenario must have been anticipated and contingency plans prepared. Keeping everyone calm and safe being the priority.

Time will tell.

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1854278336455033335

 

[Stirlingsays]

And this, to you, represents the same as a dictatorship.

That's just naive.

Well, in relative terms it's true.

The nature of civil liberties and restrictions on the individual...for example, things you can be arrested for, are the worse I've ever seen in all my life in this country.....Throw in the double standards (enshrined in law by Blair) applied to different groups and seen recently you have a rather toxic brew.

So yes, this isn't a free country anymore. That use to be something that people would say with pride about Britain, but essentially 'social liberals' (in quotes because it's kind of a joke to refer to them as liberals)...have....(and I include the mainstream right in this) voted and passed laws that far more notable politicians of the past would be ashamed of.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That's not exactly emerging. It's been an ongoing narrative - voting against Kamala Harris automatically makes someone a racist. Identity politics in a nutshell.
By this logic voting against Trump makes people rabid misandrists.

It’s not a narrative that I heard nor one that I would have thought tenable, until the result became known. It obviously doesn’t apply to everyone but quite possibly to enough to make the difference, especially when for many they aren’t even aware of it.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

From the leader of the ‘anyone but trump’ brigade. Lush 😂

I don’t lead anyone these days, except a bowls team twice a week!

My opinions are mine alone.

Trump was unquestionably the worst US President in my lifetime and it is beyond belief that he won more votes than Harris, given his record. It makes me question the political nous of the average American that they are prepared to tolerate this level of ineptitude, lack of morality and integrity and self servitude.

To then read people here accusing the Democrats of being the villains just proves how effective the policy that Trump uses all the time really is. He always accuses others of that he himself is most guilty.

But we are where we are. That’s their choice, not mine, to make. We just have to live with the consequences.

Several people I know are genuinely fearful now. You might regard that with scorn but for them it’s real.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Some people celebrate this kind of neurotic and unstable behaviour but I actually find it quite sad.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854245946692919622

Don't get me wrong, the reactions from paid professionals like the Young Turks and co are quite amusing because most of them are millionaires and there is a certain performative aspect to it. I have no problems laughing at that as regardless of who wins what they live great lives.

However these are just ordinary day to day people who are activists and they clearly put a lot of their emotional life into politics....clearly a bit too much. So while the fruitcake nature of it stands out these people are most probably missing stability within their lives and thus, purely on the humanitarian level you kind of hope they can get through it.

Not that I suspect that they would have had similar concerns if they had won.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It’s not a narrative that I heard nor one that I would have thought tenable, until the result became known. It obviously doesn’t apply to everyone but quite possibly to enough to make the difference, especially when for many they aren’t even aware of it.

Looks like straw clutching to excuse a lacklustre campaign with policies which didn't appeal to the electorate.

 

[Ouzo Dan]

Trump will cut taxes so not sure how that will help the 'crumbling infrastructure'.
Trump is a big supporter of Israel so will continue supplying weapons, as did Biden.
If American don't fund Ukraine then his mate Putin will win which will have ramifications for the world. China will probably go for Taiwan.
Not sure how illegals get preferential treatment as they can't work and have no access to health.
Trump has led a divisive campaign and has called people every name under the sun - don't think he or his supporters can hold the morale high ground.
Trump has promised to eliminate inflation. Not sure how this is even possible, i suppose he can give grants/discounts to farmers, but he is also telling everyone he will put tariffs on imports - this will clearly be inflationary when those countries do likewise.
Trump's previous record on immigration was pretty mixed. What happened to the wall?

Ultimately Trump managed to appeal to working class people. Let's see what he does for them.
Cutting access to health care must surely impact them more than other groups.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

You are entitled to your opinion, but so am I to mine.

So it’s not wrong. It’s an opinion. My opinion is you are swallowing and talking bs.

Only people like Trump seek to deny others opinions and then claim to believe in free speech.

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m just saying it is wrong and is worth exactly what you got paid for it…Nothing.

The only ‘analysis’ on the outcome I have ever provided is the post below; 3 paragraphs, all of which are factually correct and completely on point.

1. We HAVE had weeks of liberal media spouting Anti Trump / Pro Harris bilge and reports of ‘polls’ showing Harris ahead.

2. It WAS absolute bllx because just look at the actual result! 😂

3. Paragraph 3 couldn’t be more accurate so don’t go telling me or anyone else that your opinion is worth more than a fully factually correct, succinct summing up of where we’re at. Don’t take my word for it, the actual indisputable results and figures are there for all to see! Which is why Trump is heading back to the White House.

We’ve had weeks of the liberal media saying that Harris was moving ahead in the polls and have had to suffer all the Anti Trump / Pro Harris bias and daily barrage from the BBC, ITV and Channel4, Guardian etc…

What absolute bllx and it just shows them up for what they are with their pathetic agenda and attempts to influence the narrative.

These exit results show that Trump’s approval rating has increased, his standing is certainly stronger that it ever has been, he has improved his margins across various demographic groups and despite months and months of messaging and smears by Democrats about his character or what a second term of Trump as POTUS would look like, the American people have voted and Trump has their clear and resounding support. He has won this one comfortably.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Looks like straw clutching to excuse a lacklustre campaign with policies which didn't appeal to the electorate.

It's people like his counterparts in the US with his same views, who really need to look into the mirror when it comes to blame for Trump winning a second term.

Trump is such a marmite character, it's quite something just how badly they have done to lose.

Trump was nowhere in polling before they started going after him. They literally pulled him back in like they were trying to remake the Godfather 3.

However, one thing that always stands out with them is that they can never take accountability for why the voters reject them. It's always finger pointing at their victors and accusing them of lying when their own lies are legion.

It's quite amazing really.....Trump was so avoidable and even with their incredible stupidity in going after him if they had even been sensible they would have beaten him.

But that's the nature of the modern left, all or nothing and no compromise......So really they can't complain when they pull defeat from the jaws of easy victory.

 

[Houston Eagle]

There are other analyses emerging. Including the idea that racism and anti feminist sentiment played a significant role with some. Notably, older “white” people, men in particular but not exclusively.

I subscribe to the regular emails circulated by Andrew Torba, who owns Gab. Most are full of irrational extreme religious nonsense but the one yesterday morning was imploring women to get their men off their couches and get out and vote for Trump to ensure Harris failed. The terminology was extreme, unpleasant and covertly racist. The USA really is very socially backward.

I'll repeat that was white female voters, black men and Hispanics across the board, who refused to vote for Kamala Harris. What part of racism and anti feminism does that constitute?

 

[Stirlingsays]

Looks like straw clutching to excuse a lacklustre campaign with policies which didn't appeal to the electorate.

It's people like his counterparts in the US with his same views, who really need to look into the mirror when it comes to blame for Trump winning a second term.

Trump is such a marmite character, it's quite something just how badly they have done to lose. I mean they had the majority of the media and their campaign spent three times the money. They can't seem to accept that some of their problems stem from what they actually believe in.

Also Trump was nowhere in polling before they started going after him legally. They literally pulled him back in like they were trying to remake the Godfather 3.

However, one thing that always stands out with them is that they can never take accountability for why the voters reject them. It's always finger pointing at the victors and accusing them of lying when their own lies are legion.

It's quite amazing really.....Trump was so avoidable and even with their incredible stupidity in going after him if they had even been sensible they would have beaten him.

But that's the nature of the modern left, all or nothing and no compromise......So really they can't complain when they pull defeat from the jaws of easy victory.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It's people like his counterparts in the US with his same views, who really need to look into the mirror when it comes to blame for Trump winning a second term.

Trump is such a marmite character, it's quite something just how badly they have done to lose. I mean they had the majority of the media and their campaign spent three times the money. They can't seem to accept that some of their problems stem from what they actually believe in.

Also Trump was nowhere in polling before they started going after him legally. They literally pulled him back in like they were trying to remake the Godfather 3.

However, one thing that always stands out with them is that they can never take accountability for why the voters reject them. It's always finger pointing at the victors and accusing them of lying when their own lies are legion.

It's quite amazing really.....Trump was so avoidable and even with their incredible stupidity in going after him if they had even been sensible they would have beaten him.

But that's the nature of the modern left, all or nothing and no compromise......So really they can't complain when they pull defeat from the jaws of easy victory.

This one made Devon Loch look like a strong finisher.

 

[cryrst]

I don’t lead anyone these days, except a bowls team twice a week!

My opinions are mine alone.

Trump was unquestionably the worst US President in my lifetime and it is beyond belief that he won more votes than Harris, given his record. It makes me question the political nous of the average American that they are prepared to tolerate this level of ineptitude, lack of morality and integrity and self servitude.

To then read people here accusing the Democrats of being the villains just proves how effective the policy that Trump uses all the time really is. He always accuses others of that he himself is most guilty.

But we are where we are. That’s their choice, not mine, to make. We just have to live with the consequences.

Several people I know are genuinely fearful now. You might regard that with scorn but for them it’s real.

Why are they fearful. Are they immigrants or just wronguns who should have got theirs years ago and will now. As you write on here about tweets and jail if they have done nothing wrong why be afraid!

 

[Eaglehamster]

I look forward to seeing how DT makes America great again and creates his “Golden Age”.
How excited his many supporters must be in the knowledge that their lives will be so much better under his rule. We shall see.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

i cannot understand why i spent all day giggling to myself like a mentaler. Its like the time Benteke scored that winner against the Seaweed.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I look forward to seeing how DT makes America great again and creates his “Golden Age”.
How excited his many supporters must be in the knowledge that their lives will be so much better under his rule. We shall see.

Dude, you just don't get it.

 

[cryrst]

I look forward to seeing how DT makes America great again and creates his “Golden Age”.
How excited his many supporters must be in the knowledge that their lives will be so much better under his rule. We shall see.

You could rewind that to 100 odd days ago over here !