Tommy Robinson

cryrst said:
Oh dear! So in reality you know of historical abuse, which you claim but haven’t reported. Have you considered that even if the perpetrators are dead as likely, that some abused boys might still be mentally affected and have a whole life affected by dint of the truth not being told.
Have you never thought that closure can help even decades later. I think wissie that is very poor and doesn’t put you in a good light. Preaching to all about how righteous you are yet allowing so much pain.
A visit to the police station should be a priority to help your fellow pensioners!
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Who said it wasn’t reported? It was but the way things were regarded and handled then was very different to today. Much of what was seen was suspicious behaviour, rather than actual evidence of abuse, so the police didn’t do anything and social services didn’t exist. My own knowledge was sketchy then and today I cannot even recall any names.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Children being raped at a rate of more than one a week for 25 years and no record was kept? This seems unlikely.
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Individual case files would have existed. Whether anyone was tasked with doing statistical analyses is what’s unlikely. When your department is stretched to over capacity you use every resource at the coal face, not in the office.

I don’t doubt that the department managers were aware of a tide of need and pleading with their political masters for more resources. Which weren’t available because of squeezes on local authority budgets.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
This thread is reaching appalling levels of excuses.
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You are 100% spot on and Wisbech’ posts in particular have been both pathetic and appalling.

I’m no TR fan boy (he has lots of faults) but he was correct on this issue and was highlighting the appalling ‘Grooming Gang’ abuse and associated cover-up that was happening ALONG time ago.

He was unquestionably one of the first public voices that persistently highlighted what had been happening and helped turned the tide against the denials and cover-up. It’s not unsurprising that Wisbech was one of the main ones in denial on this Forum and his posts then, were equally as pathetic and misguided as they are now.
 
Phil’s Barber said:
You are 100% spot on and Wisbech’ posts in particular have been both pathetic and appalling.

I’m no TR fan boy (he has lots of faults) but he was correct on this issue and was highlighting the appalling ‘Grooming Gang’ abuse and associated cover-up that was happening ALONG time ago.

He was unquestionably one of the first public voices that persistently highlighted what had been happening and helped turned the tide against the denials and cover-up. It’s not unsurprising that Wisbech was one of the main ones in denial on this Forum and his posts then, were equally as pathetic and misguided as they are now.
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Didnt mr lydon highlight saville and got laughed at 🤔
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Individual case files would have existed. Whether anyone was tasked with doing statistical analyses is what’s unlikely. When your department is stretched to over capacity you use every resource at the coal face, not in the office.

I don’t doubt that the department managers were aware of a tide of need and pleading with their political masters for more resources. Which weren’t available because of squeezes on local authority budgets.
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Which coalface activity could possibly have deserved more resources?
 
Phil’s Barber said:
You are 100% spot on and Wisbech’ posts in particular have been both pathetic and appalling.

I’m no TR fan boy (he has lots of faults) but he was correct on this issue and was highlighting the appalling ‘Grooming Gang’ abuse and associated cover-up that was happening ALONG time ago.

He was unquestionably one of the first public voices that persistently highlighted what had been happening and helped turned the tide against the denials and cover-up. It’s not unsurprising that Wisbech was one of the main ones in denial on this Forum and his posts then, were equally as pathetic and misguided as they are now.
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Will be having a lot of porridge for breakfast!
 
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Teddy Eagle said:
A view from a former policeman.

unherd.com

Why the police ignored the rape gangs

unherd.com unherd.com
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Really good read that and no real surprises. Even for someone who kind of gets the intentions (and after Southport I kind of get why they did what they did with the Liverpool crowd incident) I don’t think anyone sensible of any political sway can say it’s been handled well in any sense and politics has ruined proper policing out of fear of the potential racial tensions.
 
cryrst said:
Didnt mr lydon highlight saville and got laughed at 🤔
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Your recollection might be different to mine. I wasn’t aware he was laughed at, more that the presenter quickly moved on and then the comments were ignored. Which now turns out to have been all part of the cover up by the BBC and other media outlets.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Which coalface activity could possibly have deserved more resources?
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When there are multiple coal faces and only a limited number of miners and pick axes you will get a variety of answers from people with a variety of priorities. Most times though people don’t realise that it’s impossible to satisfy every priority all the time and they just complain about the ones being neglected. If at the time the scale of the problem wasn’t well understood then for some other priorities would have been seen as more important.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
When there are multiple coal faces and only a limited number of miners and pick axes you will get a variety of answers from people with a variety of priorities. Most times though people don’t realise that it’s impossible to satisfy every priority all the time and they just complain about the ones being neglected. If at the time the scale of the problem wasn’t well understood then for some other priorities would have been seen as more important.
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What is of greater priority than the organised mass-rape of children?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
When there are multiple coal faces and only a limited number of miners and pick axes you will get a variety of answers from people with a variety of priorities. Most times though people don’t realise that it’s impossible to satisfy every priority all the time and they just complain about the ones being neglected. If at the time the scale of the problem wasn’t well understood then for some other priorities would have been seen as more important.
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Yet more absolute garbage!

Unbelievable.
 
DanH said:
Really good read that and no real surprises. Even for someone who kind of gets the intentions (and after Southport I kind of get why they did what they did with the Liverpool crowd incident) I don’t think anyone sensible of any political sway can say it’s been handled well in any sense and politics has ruined proper policing out of fear of the potential racial tensions.
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Before placing too much reliance on what this guy says, just consider who he is.

Yes, he served in the police force but he is now a writer of fictional thrillers. The piece referenced reads like one.

In another article, about Reform and Farage he describes himself as “a right-of-centre, small ‘c’ conservative and failed libertarian”. He criticises Tony Blair and almost every politician you could name. To suggest he is cynical would be an understatement.

He is grinding quite a few axes. Everyone now accepts the rape gang scandals haven’t been handled well. What the primary causes of the failures were and how to correct them is why we have had enquiries and changed policies.

I believe there is much more that could be done to overcome the cultural attitudes which underlie the problem. Which would pay much bigger dividends than looking in the rear view mirror for scapegoats.
 
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