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Tommy Robinson
- Topic starter Rudi Hedman
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Couldn't read the lnik without accepting cookies so didn't. It's a mail piece so I expect it's one of those 'The young people of today!' tropes, is it?An extraordinary claim. You’re confusing the very few intelligent students these days with the rest.
Elite college students can't read an entire book: 'My jaw dropped'
Some professors at elite colleges claim they have been forced to reduce reading assignments to stop struggling students becoming overwhelmed.www.dailymail.co.uk
Young people in Europe are moving over to right and far right parties like AFD in Germany.
Regardless of what that august publication has to say, I'm absolutely convinced that undergraduates are not stupid. That's hardly an 'extravagant claim'.
Rudi Hedman
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Not really. It’s in The Independent, Telegraph and Guardian. Still think it’s nonsense?
University students are struggling to read entire books
Students from the University of Sheffield say claims they are unable to focus on complex arguments are 'unfair'
www.independent.co.uk
How to put your phone down and get back into habit of reading books
After an English academic at Oxford complained about students’ attention spans, we get experts’ tips on enjoying the written word
www.theguardian.com
And you don’t have to be entirely stupid to be impressionable. Freshers then follow the trends and you have peer pressure/shaming by the usual suspects.
Here is a young student refusing to be brainwashed by woke ideology. Catch it on 1:20…
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Rudi Hedman
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This is how you deal with political matters non violently, unlike the right…ahem… in your own constituency as a Labour MP, now suspended…
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Stirlingsays
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When you hear noises from the left suggesting that people who support certain causes are thick (not the brightest opinion anyway as most political causes are supported by all ranges of intelligence) As evidence, I bid you double take at this video clip from the counter protest against Tommy Robinson and I humbly suggest that we aren't dealing with Einsteins' here either.
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Rudi Hedman
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Stirlingsays
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Now imagine the left if that had been a Reform MP.
Perhaps amusingly MI5 should consider some reallocation of their budget towards members of the governing party.
Rudi Hedman
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Although she looks it with the pink hair and bull ring through her nose this one isn’t that stupid but she’s training her son to be. She says her family members are on the other side. Her family get togethers are probably quite eventful…
Stirlingsays
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Yep, there is a hell of a lot of mental illness within leftist activism.
Hearing a child talk like that is horrendous.
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More left wing compassion. It looks like he spat at the union flag and not the Israeli flag…
cryrst
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The same way you are sure they knew about the attacks. Doesn’t take poirot for that you think ! And trying to belittle posters by dissecting every little few words ain’t big and it ain’t clever, smart arse.
But as far as I can see, there's been very little in the news about Israel knowing beforehand and what they did about it. There's no need to get narky with me. If you can point me to anything to enlighten me then I'd genuinely like to see it.
I'm not a smart - arse but I do want to be smarter by finding out about these things.
'Dissecting words' is what we do on here. If seeking clarification is 'dissecting every little word' then so be it.
As has been said a thousand times: the devil's in the detail.
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Watching it, she (the child) seems like any other who has 'discovered' a bad word and gets a reaction when she says it - whether or not she understands the full meaning of it.
...and if the mother is as 'upper middle class' as she says, then I think I'll elevate myself to the aristocracy😆
cryrst
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Re read your post at 11.36 am yesterday whereby you were disturbed by the fact Israel knew about the Hamas attacks.
I never questioned your statement as it is possible but alongside knowing; im sure Israel would have best guessed the attack zones and defended them. Maybe stupidly they thought the scum wouldn’t attack citizens just military or police and that’s why I couldn’t get your question and the relevance tbh.
Me too but they didn't. The relevance is why wouldn't they? Supposing they were looking for a pretext? Is that not possible? It's a moot point that I never/have never seen discussed on our news services.
Stirlingsays
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In my view Israel's security services obviously knew about the attack, just as they knew about 9/11 and sent some operatives down to NY to observe it.....all there if you look for it.
I mean, come on guys, you just watched their security services blow up mobiles and devices that had been issued to Hamas operatives for over a year before. Then they took out leaderships of both Hamas and Hezbollah with ease, seemingly knowing where they were in these highly secure and prepared locations.
Obviously they have fully infiltrated these organizations many many years ago, just as we knew what the IRA leadership were thinking.....As we find out that Martin McGuiness was highly suspected to be our stitch (though it was on his terms).
But we are expected to believe that they didn't know about a massive attack involving the participation of three thousand according to the IDF? What they did required significant planning, resources and organisation.
Yeah the real world is far far more cynical than we would prefer. It's called the 'great game' for a reason.
In my view Israel is interested in its long term survival far more than its hippies at music festivals.
Could I be wrong about this?......We are all wrong about something but I put this down as unlikely.
I mean, come on guys, you just watched their security services blow up mobiles and devices that had been issued to Hamas operatives for over a year before. Then they took out leaderships of both Hamas and Hezbollah with ease, seemingly knowing where they were in these highly secure and prepared locations.
Obviously they have fully infiltrated these organizations many many years ago, just as we knew what the IRA leadership were thinking.....As we find out that Martin McGuiness was highly suspected to be our stitch (though it was on his terms).
But we are expected to believe that they didn't know about a massive attack involving the participation of three thousand according to the IDF? What they did required significant planning, resources and organisation.
Yeah the real world is far far more cynical than we would prefer. It's called the 'great game' for a reason.
In my view Israel is interested in its long term survival far more than its hippies at music festivals.
Could I be wrong about this?......We are all wrong about something but I put this down as unlikely.
Stirlingsays
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No 'far right' groups took part in the Southport riots. This isn't contention it is fact, so this suggestion that Robinson was somehow 'in' on who would be there is just hearsay. I think he reacted like many others....does what he say carry more weight, sure, but as he never advocated violence I find these accusations more born of 'hatred' (as the left like to characterise things) than evidence.
Again you do this fancy reaching with Trump, suggesting that he was using codewords in his preannouncements.....that's a bit of a reach. Sure Trump has influence over his supporters, that isn't denied, but so do the Democrats.
You say I'm in denial? Oh baby boy say it isn't so! The George Floyd 'disturbances' you mention (what CNN called mostly peaceful riots) were riots that went on for 18 months, that were encouraged and not condemned by Democrats.....They actively refused to condemn Antifa would were actively involved in instigating these riots until the Dems themselves came to power....at which point they stopped. I'll remind you that these riots saw death and wholesale destruction of businesses......and he is you somehow blaming Trump for having influence over the people who weren't actually involved in the violence.....Of course he did, just as the Democrats had influence over Antifa and BLM.
I have little doubt that once Trump wins they will start again and that the Democrats will be part of that influence process which you seem eager to blame Trump for.
Your contention on outside political involvement in brainwashing youth isn't too far off the mark and through the ages both right and left have engaged on it.....However, since the sixties it's been near exclusively the left....It isn't even a question the evidence is freely available on it.
You seem a little confused on who and where the right wing is....it's not older people at all, the boomers are majority socially liberal, support for the right wing is far more amongst youth (and considering their future prospects I can see why they aren't centralists).
Here watch this video from Academic Agent going over the process of how universities and indoctrination flowed from before WW2 but was massively enabled and enlarged after it.
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I think if we look at Southport,it was the case that there was a certain degree of organisation behind events and that people who were not local attended the area in order both to protest and in some cases as they fancied a bit of a tear up.
To say this was not 'organised by far right groups,' I guess depends on definitions of both far right and groups.
If we look at this specifically in relation to Yaxley Lennon his 'followers,' are from a spectrum (something he is very good at,' so I have no doubt some of them were involved in the protests across the country and some of this was organised.
But such these days is the power of social media
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If they had known and did bolster certain areas it wouldn’t look very good to admit they chose the wrong places which allowed hundreds of people to get wiped out, raped and systematically tortured to death. Best to keep quiet on that !
So yes it’s possible they knew and acted; wrongly for some but correct for others.