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Tommy Robinson

He had no need to return and it seems increasingly likely he is planning to move outside the UK as he can be just as disruptive online that way without risking arrest.

So why? Just to create some “free Tommy” stories and wind up the impressionable again?

He was ordered by Justice Johnson to attend the High Court in person on 28th October. How can you possibly say that he had no need to return?

You also said he wouldn’t return as he was a coward. Will you please stop posting absolute nonsense that is just plain wrong!
 
'Left-wing, anarchist and single-issue terrorism makes up a significantly smaller portion of our casework than other forms of terrorism. It encompasses a wide range of ideologies. It includes those from the extreme political left-wing as well as anarchists who seek to use violence to advance their cause in seeking to overthrow the state in all its forms.'

Taken from MI5 security web page.

It's telling the way you've conflated extreme Islamic and left-wing threats. Very handy spin, there, Rudi.
Perhaps they should spend some time investigating these vile people. You know the ones lecturing at our Universities. Are their views not worthy of investigation?

 
This government is becoming the most repressive is our post-war history.

I'm glad you said 'this government' and not Our government. Its the same across all the West. Deeply unpopular politicians with only a scant regard for democracy. Often they are a politically appointed shoe-in who never did well in the polls. Rishi Sunak, Leo Varadkar & his replacement Simon Harris, Kamala Harris, Hilary Clinton, Macron, ...........even Sadiq Khan was never a populist and never a unifying force.

Tommy Robinson. There are heads like his popping up all over the West. Voices of popular dissent to be treated as criminals and vilified by the authorities ( and the Media). And in all cases their 'criminality' is not particularly apparent nor very serious. Like Trump, the convicted felon - and i am struggling to even remember his crimes. But they get the book thrown at them, in an very enthusiastic manner. Meanwhile i can walk down my local high-street and see open drug-dealing ( & money laundering ) that is ignored by the authorities every day.

Meanwhile somebody like Henry Kissinger can have a few million murders to his name and still get tv interviews by a respectful journalist. Had Kissinger lived to 102, that is.

 
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He was ordered by Justice Johnson to attend the High Court in person on 28th October. How can you possibly say that he had no need to return?

You also said he wouldn’t return as he was a coward. Will you please stop posting absolute nonsense that is just plain wrong!
He has ignored Court orders before and could easily have done so again. He has no respect for our legal system as evidenced by him reshowing the video he was ordered not to.

I have accepted my prediction that he would not return proved inaccurate but this only raises the question of why. It’s certainly not because he has suddenly decided he needs to respect British law. He is a coward. He is a bully, as he has often demonstrated, and bullies are always cowards at heart. He is scared of the law and hides from it, surrounding himself with thugs.
 
Perhaps they should spend some time investigating these vile people. You know the ones lecturing at our Universities. Are their views not worthy of investigation?

Yes, let's keep a watching eye on these vile university lecturers. They are a danger to society with their biased, vile leftie views and opinions. Let's investigate them and then sack them. They need to be replaced by some right-thinking, right wing lecturers, don't they. Let's have some balance, for goodness sake.

When I took my father's ashes to Poland (Yes, I'm the son of an immigrant), in Gniew, near Gdansk, there was, in the town, the remains of their ancient castle. There was a memorial erected there in memory of all the professionals of the town: teachers, lawyers, well anyone considered 'intellectual', actually, who were rounded up at the castle and shot by the occupying Germans.

No doubt the occupiers considered them to be vile people. They deserved it.
 
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Yes, let's keep a watching eye on these vile university lecturers. They are a danger to society with their biased, vile leftie views and opinions. Let's investigate them and then sack them. They need to be replaced by some right-thinking, right wing lecturers, don't they. Let's have some balance, for goodness sake.

When I took my father's ashes to Poland (Yes, I'm the son of an immigrant), in Gniew, near Gdansk, there was, in the town, the remains of their ancient castle. There was a memorial erected there in memory of all the professionals of the town: teachers, lawyers, well anyone considered 'intellectual', actually, who were rounded up at the castle and shot by the occupying Germans.

No doubt the occupiers considered them to be vile people. They deserved it.
You do not quite get the point and immigrant or not you and your family are assimilated to our society and conform to the laws and ethics. If you feel that immigrants who are not escaping persecution or even try to get on are like you then ok feel as guilty as you want!
The point about the original post is these people are putting actual terrorists on a mantle to be lauded. The same who would have your history erased and your actual life as I would guess your family were possibly jewish and you are the blood of those people who were shot. Maybe not for being Jewish perse but the Jews quickly followed.
 
Yes, let's keep a watching eye on these vile university lecturers. They are a danger to society with their biased, vile leftie views and opinions. Let's investigate them and then sack them. They need to be replaced by some right-thinking, right wing lecturers, don't they. Let's have some balance, for goodness sake.

When I took my father's ashes to Poland (Yes, I'm the son of an immigrant), in Gniew, near Gdansk, there was, in the town, the remains of their ancient castle. There was a memorial erected there in memory of all the professionals of the town: teachers, lawyers, well anyone considered 'intellectual', actually, who were rounded up at the castle and shot by the occupying Germans.

No doubt the occupiers considered them to be vile people. They deserved it.
Shooting intellectuals sounds more like the Russians.
 
Perhaps they should spend some time investigating these vile people. You know the ones lecturing at our Universities. Are their views not worthy of investigation?

Well if people are allowed to revere a Hamas leader then what other leaders are permissible ? Oswald Moseley ? or Saddam Hussein ? how about Slobodan Milosevic ?
 
Yes, let's keep a watching eye on these vile university lecturers. They are a danger to society with their biased, vile leftie views and opinions. Let's investigate them and then sack them. They need to be replaced by some right-thinking, right wing lecturers, don't they. Let's have some balance, for goodness sake.
Best and most sensible thing you’ve ever said on here.
 
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Shooting intellectuals sounds more like the Russians.

in my book, you cannot be called a proper 'Intellectual' without some religious scepticism.

And the two-word-term 'religious scholar' is a contradiction in terms. Just As Spike Milligan had described 'military intelligence'......a contradiction in terms. Like British Democracy.
Or maybe even moderate Islam ? although i am happy to be proven wrong on the last one, if somebody can point me toward a moderate religious textbook in that faith.....a book lacking any calls to violence, homophobia, AntiSemitism, AntiSecularism, punishing apostates, & Anti female prejudice. Show me the book and i will eat my words.......moderate ideology begets moderate behaviours.
 
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Shooting intellectuals sounds more like the Russians.
Depends really. You no doubt know if the aim was to filter people into useful or not in Germany’s war effort production then any pen pusher had no use to them. Any Jewish writers, artists and musicians had to go immediately to erase the culture.
 
Yes, let's keep a watching eye on these vile university lecturers. They are a danger to society with their biased, vile leftie views and opinions. Let's investigate them and then sack them. They need to be replaced by some right-thinking, right wing lecturers, don't they. Let's have some balance, for goodness sake.

When I took my father's ashes to Poland (Yes, I'm the son of an immigrant), in Gniew, near Gdansk, there was, in the town, the remains of their ancient castle. There was a memorial erected there in memory of all the professionals of the town: teachers, lawyers, well anyone considered 'intellectual', actually, who were rounded up at the castle and shot by the occupying Germans.

No doubt the occupiers considered them to be vile people. They deserved it.
So University lecturers hailing terrorists as heroes is ok in your world, fair enough. In my opinion they are vile. By the way my grandfather was Jewish and his grandmother was a displaced person from Prussia in the mid 1800s
 
Well if people are allowed to revere a Hamas leader then what other leaders are permissible ? Oswald Moseley ? or Saddam Hussein ? how about Slobodan Milosevic ?
Famously championed by the Daily Mail and Mirror who urged the British to get behind the Blackshirts. Had to abandon that when we went to war with Germany.
 
Yes, let's keep a watching eye on these vile university lecturers. They are a danger to society with their biased, vile leftie views and opinions. Let's investigate them and then sack them. They need to be replaced by some right-thinking, right wing lecturers, don't they. Let's have some balance, for goodness sake.

When I took my father's ashes to Poland (Yes, I'm the son of an immigrant), in Gniew, near Gdansk, there was, in the town, the remains of their ancient castle. There was a memorial erected there in memory of all the professionals of the town: teachers, lawyers, well anyone considered 'intellectual', actually, who were rounded up at the castle and shot by the occupying Germans.

No doubt the occupiers considered them to be vile people. They deserved it.

The lack of a right wing in the universities is mentioned and here you are waffling about sodding Hitler. I mention something Powell said, and immediately it's 'race war' and now it's Hitler?

You are sounding like Kamala Harris's speech writer.

Powell by the way was not pro Hitler, far from it. But obviously in your head it's nationalism equals Hitler....which if you don't mind is an extremely wrong point of view.....and that Israel itself is probably amongst the most nationalistic countries out there, which...whether you agree or disagree, the west can't fall over itself quick enough to help.
 
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Winston Churchill is considered to be evil and nasty now by some of these idiots.
I would agree with you on the rejection of Churchill criticisms from the left. However, while I don't know about 'evil and nasty', I certainly agree with the criticisms of Churchill from the right. Perhaps not as far as some of them go but the gist of the criticism carries weight in my view.

Pat Buchanan....adviser to Nixon, Ford and Reagan certainly changed my view along with others. Much like Powell he was warning about the society we have now decades before, back when others were saying, 'lt'll never happen'.

My view of the wisdom of Churchill's actions changed once I read his book. Amazon.co.uk (though not at that price) I say do what I did and read the book, if you still feel the same way then fair enough.

Five years ago I would have agreed with you. However, that was because....I was raised to view Churchill as the saviour of the nation.

Churchill didn't want to lose the empire and in my view he didn't want to open the door to the subversives.....and as he was a Victorian I think he would be horrified to see what has happened.

But nevertheless the facts have to be faced.

That war was the major root from which the traitorous branches grew to undermine and with the passing of the generational reins destroy what was Britain and remake it into the much more elitist controlled, confused, self loathing caricature you see today.
 
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