Time to start doing Business Steve..!!

[Plaistow Eagle]

Seriously, you need to calm down. Your posts are becoming increasingly erratic and nonsensical. Anyone stating that we should get Sterling for example is simply wanting a player for the sake of it, not because he would add anything to the team. John Stones...a very nice bench warmer. And while we are it why not Rasmus Hoijland or Nicholas Jackson. ??

Look either we have no money and so need to start looking at the loan market or we do have money and SP is just sitting on his thumbs..!!

Let’s deal with the no money and needing to look at loans. First question - why don’t we have any money, we’ve just finished, we’ve just finished 12th in the league, won the FA Cup and Community Shield and then replaced Textor with a multi billionaire in Woody Johnson..!! Textor was/is not a Billionaire, despite all the bravado.

Is it because the other owners are looking to Parish to stump any transfer budget commensurate with his shareholding @10%, now Parish unlike the other 3 is not a Billionaire - net worth c£50M - whilst fabulously rich to you and I - not compared to Harris, Blitzer and Johnson.

So take that on a step further say they wanted to raise £100M transfer budget - that would mean Parish would need to put in £10M - meaning he’d have to invest a fifth of his net worth - he ain’t going to do that and understandably so..!!

So if that is the problem and I’m only trying to get my head around what the problem could be - so it’s conjecture on my part. But if that is the problem then surely Parish should relinquish and sell his shareholding to the other 3 and just remain as Chairman looking after the day to day running of the club…??

This could be a reason why transfer budget - albeit I still don’t see where all the revenue has gone - especially as we were in profit on last seasons dealings, but whatever, say we are working to a tight budget then we have to start looking at the loan market.

So it seems we are trying to retain the current squad unless a bid comes in that we simply can’t refuse - OK get that, but along with that comes huge risk and downside in terms of incoming transfer revenue further downstream.

But let’s deal with the here and now - we have a very competitive what 14 at a push, we manage to keep all of them but we need depth and depth in quality to deal with domestic and the added requirements of a European campaign this time around.

So loan market means players that could be available for a loan - so you ain’t going to the likes of Harvey Elliott or Yann Bisseck on a loan - so you’re looking at quality players on the fringe of big sides where those clubs may be open to a loan deal.

So that’s going to either be emerging talent that need experience at Prem level or senior players that for whatever reason have fallen out of favour or may be deemed surplus to requirements.

Then you look at where we need depth - so Sunday our back up centre backs are Lerma (midfielder by trade but arguably better at centre back) and Clyne (right back by trade and certainly not Prem standard). Hence John Stones - if fit still Englands best centre back and better than either Lerma and Clyne and arguably Richards.

Then Sterling - I said it was a wildcard - even I’m not sure..!! But we need someone that can provide depth both as a 10 and play up front. Sterling’s moves to Chelsea and Arsenal did not work out - but 3 years ago he was an automatic England starter and he’s still only 30..!!

What if OG could rekindle that form and fire - he’s done it with Sarr who was going nowhere at Marseille. I’m not saying Sterling is the answer and yes it’s a huge risk - but if it works out it could be a master stroke - as I said there’s a player there - does he just need the right environment to get back to where he was..??

Then Hackney - we must have some budget so £20M for a really bright talent from the Championship - where we have had so much success recently - Wharton, Eze and Olise - would just seem a no brainier to me - especially as others have said - the one space in our “best starting XI” seems to be who plays alongside Wharton.

Then you go to - we do have funds but have just sat on our hands - why?? If that is the case and we say miraculously bring in Bisseck, Gallagher (see we have been linked with Connor today) and Elliott and keep all the others. So a combined cost of what £120M.

You’ve got to firstly say that would be brilliant and we’d all be absolutely ecstatic - but if we had the funds all the time - why the procrastination, why the inertia - why was OG not given the time to work with the players earlier..??

Now that would be nonsensical and erratic strategy..!!

COYP..!!

 

[Den1923]

Look either we have no money and so need to start looking at the loan market or we do have money and SP is just sitting on his thumbs..!!

Let’s deal with the no money and needing to look at loans. First question - why don’t we have any money, we’ve just finished, we’ve just finished 12th in the league, won the FA Cup and Community Shield and then replaced Textor with a multi billionaire in Woody Johnson..!! Textor was/is not a Billionaire, despite all the bravado.

Is it because the other owners are looking to Parish to stump any transfer budget commensurate with his shareholding @10%, now Parish unlike the other 3 is not a Billionaire - net worth c£50M - whilst fabulously rich to you and I - not compared to Harris, Blitzer and Johnson.

So take that on a step further say they wanted to raise £100M transfer budget - that would mean Parish would need to put in £10M - meaning he’d have to invest a fifth of his net worth - he ain’t going to do that and understandably so..!!

So if that is the problem and I’m only trying to get my head around what the problem could be - so it’s conjecture on my part. But if that is the problem then surely Parish should relinquish and sell his shareholding to the other 3 and just remain as Chairman looking after the day to day running of the club…??

This could be a reason why transfer budget - albeit I still don’t see where all the revenue has gone - especially as we were in profit on last seasons dealings, but whatever, say we are working to a tight budget then we have to start looking at the loan market.

So it seems we are trying to retain the current squad unless a bid comes in that we simply can’t refuse - OK get that, but along with that comes huge risk and downside in terms of incoming transfer revenue further downstream.

But let’s deal with the here and now - we have a very competitive what 14 at a push, we manage to keep all of them but we need depth and depth in quality to deal with domestic and the added requirements of a European campaign this time around.

So loan market means players that could be available for a loan - so you ain’t going to the likes of Harvey Elliott or Yann Bisseck on a loan - so you’re looking at quality players on the fringe of big sides where those clubs may be open to a loan deal.

So that’s going to either be emerging talent that need experience at Prem level or senior players that for whatever reason have fallen out of favour or may be deemed surplus to requirements.

Then you look at where we need depth - so Sunday our back up centre backs are Lerma (midfielder by trade but arguably better at centre back) and Clyne (right back by trade and certainly not Prem standard). Hence John Stones - if fit still Englands best centre back and better than either Lerma and Clyne and arguably Richards.

Then Sterling - I said it was a wildcard - even I’m not sure..!! But we need someone that can provide depth both as a 10 and play up front. Sterling’s moves to Chelsea and Arsenal did not work out - but 3 years ago he was an automatic England starter and he’s still only 30..!!

What if OG could rekindle that form and fire - he’s done it with Sarr who was going nowhere at Marseille. I’m not saying Sterling is the answer and yes it’s a huge risk - but if it works out it could be a master stroke - as I said there’s a player there - does he just need the right environment to get back to where he was..??

Then Hackney - we must have some budget so £20M for a really bright talent from the Championship - where we have had so much success recently - Wharton, Eze and Olise - would just seem a no brainier to me - especially as others have said - the one space in our “best starting XI” seems to be who plays alongside Wharton.

Then you go to - we do have funds but have just sat on our hands - why?? If that is the case and we say miraculously bring in Bisseck, Gallagher (see we have been linked with Connor today) and Elliott and keep all the others. So a combined cost of what £120M.

You’ve got to firstly say that would be brilliant and we’d all be absolutely ecstatic - but if we had the funds all the time - why the procrastination, why the inertia - why was OG not given the time to work with the players earlier..??

Now that would be nonsensical and erratic strategy..!!

COYP..!!

I think you have hit the nail on the head, the combined wealth of our owners (Johnson, Blitzer, Harrish and Parish) is £4.3bn whereas Marinakis (Notts Forrest) is reported to be £3.3bn.

 

[Badger11]

Parish not having enough money to match the others is a convenient excuse for them not to put money into the club. If the Americans were serious about transfer funding and Parish was holding them up they would get rid, and they have the votes.

I think Steve is doing exactly what the others want, keeping the club afloat with money the club generates.

For the record I do think if Steve had the money he would put it in.

 

[grumpymort]

I think you have hit the nail on the head, the combined wealth of our owners (Johnson, Blitzer, Harrish and Parish) is £4.3bn whereas Marinakis (Notts Forrest) is reported to be £3.3bn.

It's meaningless.

Peoples net worth has nothing to do with it. (this doesn't mean either any of those people have cash available most of it is tied up in other things)

This is another reasons why multi club ownership is great if done correctly

It's very simple it is about the revenue the club brings in to the out goings (Palace for a long time has been poor with this side of things all the TV money was going to wages and we would apart from a few times be letting players go on free or very low fee)

SP has done great things but he is a nation level business man football is global we have missed out on so much because of him business wise (I can see why Textor was calling him out all the time and yes lots of people don't like textor but look he is a global business man)

People forget SP has most of his wealth from palace not because he did great before hand.

Anyway we must have cash based of OG comments we have been trying to get targets and missed out (sounds like to me too much messing about and putting in low offers with others coming in and just paying)

Lets wait and see what happens still plenty of time left until transfer windows closes and with it closing at 7pm rather then the what was it 11-12 it will be lot better.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

So you obviously think he should be sold for less than his release clause.

No I don’t, I’m just stating what will have gone down, now his release clause has expired, we won’t be getting £68 million for him, it’s probably what spurs were waiting for

Keep up 😀

 

[grumpymort]

Parish not having enough money to match the others is a convenient excuse for them not to put money into the club. If the Americans were serious about transfer funding and Parish was holding them up they would get rid, and they have the votes.

I think Steve is doing exactly what the others want, keeping the club afloat with money the club generates.

For the record I do think if Steve had the money he would put it in.

Correct SP only has his position because 2 of them allow it they have put him there this was confirmed by Tex which is why he was always out voted 3-1.

People like to make up these SP has to put his % in blah blah blah it's untrue and not how it works.

SP wouldn't put money in he has always taken out far more (he even has sub companies taking a cut)

 

[grumpymort]

No I don’t, I’m just stating what will have gone down, now his release clause has expired, we won’t be getting £68 million for him, it’s probably what spurs were waiting for

Keep up 😀

We would be stupid to allow that.

I can see the del being around that but structured different so say a big amount of addons etc.

Guehi is the one we need going not Eze who still has multi years left on contract so we dont have to sell.

 

[ambrose7]

No I don’t, I’m just stating what will have gone down, now his release clause has expired, we won’t be getting £68 million for him, it’s probably what spurs were waiting for

Keep up 😀

It is possible for us to accept a lower than release clause bid whilst a release clause is active.

There was no reason for either side to wait for it to expire if a below release clause deal were to now happen.

 

[ambrose7]

Let's put all the money to one side for a second.

We have a player who has been rumoured to be leaving all summer. Probably more noise about him than any other player until Isak threw his toys out. On the eve of the season, Glasner is seemingly being told he can't use him.

According to the media, there's been three replacements talked about. Guessand, El Khannouss, Harvey Elliott.

One has already gone to another club, one is playing for their team right now, one was on the bench for their team last night.

There's no plan ready to put into motion. It' all reactive. What's all the more mental is that we're waiting for departures before arrivals WHEN WE'VE GOT AN EXTRA TOURNAMENT TO PLAY!

 

[Den1923]

It's meaningless.

Peoples net worth has nothing to do with it. (this doesn't mean either any of those people have cash available most of it is tied up in other things)

This is another reasons why multi club ownership is great if done correctly

It's very simple it is about the revenue the club brings in to the out goings (Palace for a long time has been poor with this side of things all the TV money was going to wages and we would apart from a few times be letting players go on free or very low fee)

SP has done great things but he is a nation level business man football is global we have missed out on so much because of him business wise (I can see why Textor was calling him out all the time and yes lots of people don't like textor but look he is a global business man)

People forget SP has most of his wealth from palace not because he did great before hand.

Anyway we must have cash based of OG comments we have been trying to get targets and missed out (sounds like to me too much messing about and putting in low offers with others coming in and just paying)

Lets wait and see what happens still plenty of time left until transfer windows closes and with it closing at 7pm rather then the what was it 11-12 it will be lot better.

Our owners, if they are serious about getting a good return on their investment need to finance us much better if we are to continue to progress. Our expenditure for an established EPL team is woeful and with the added extra strain on our current paper thin squad because of what the additional conference league games will bring (assuming we qualify) is a big concern. I accept that there is still time left but the pool of available players is getting smaller, both in quality and availability by the day. The teams coming up are much stronger on paper this year than those relegated at the end of last season.

 

[Eaglecoops]

No I don’t, I’m just stating what will have gone down, now his release clause has expired, we won’t be getting £68 million for him, it’s probably what spurs were waiting for

Keep up 😀

That is such a crass comment.. if you think stating the bleeding obvious contributes adds to the discussion then so be it.

I thought keeping Eze was top of everyone’s agenda and selling him cheap definitely wasn’t .

 

[pssguy]

Difference being Forest are spending big on players to change their starting 11. Our starting 11 doesn’t need changing. Unless of course Guehi and/or Eze leave? Then we require 2 first team signings. What we do need is a bigger squad so that we have better quality on the bench. A couple of decent loan signings will hopefully come in soon? We also have injuries which will bolster our squad once they are back. Let’s not panic unless we sell Guehi and Eza

Forest are looking to be a top team, we are not. If we upgraded from Mitchell, Richards and Kamada/Hughes we would have a starting X1 that would match any in the league. I will be interested to see how Diouf plays today. West Ham supporters have been raving about him

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

Eze out of the squad tomorrow due to Spurs interest according to Sky which means we are likely considering letting him go for less than his release clause. If this happens I truly give up with our management.

OG said “ Eze and Guehi both will be playing tomorrow “ social media click bait is never ending!!

 

[Runningman]

It's meaningless.

Peoples net worth has nothing to do with it. (this doesn't mean either any of those people have cash available most of it is tied up in other things)

This is another reasons why multi club ownership is great if done correctly

It's very simple it is about the revenue the club brings in to the out goings (Palace for a long time has been poor with this side of things all the TV money was going to wages and we would apart from a few times be letting players go on free or very low fee)

SP has done great things but he is a nation level business man football is global we have missed out on so much because of him business wise (I can see why Textor was calling him out all the time and yes lots of people don't like textor but look he is a global business man)

People forget SP has most of his wealth from palace not because he did great before hand.

Anyway we must have cash based of OG comments we have been trying to get targets and missed out (sounds like to me too much messing about and putting in low offers with others coming in and just paying)

Lets wait and see what happens still plenty of time left until transfer windows closes and with it closing at 7pm rather then the what was it 11-12 it will be lot better.

How many times…!!!!!!!!!
Look at what PSR is doing to Newcastle and Villa. It’s feckin up the league 😡

 

[ambrose7]

OG said “ Eze and Guehi both will be playing tomorrow “ social media click bait is never ending!!

No, he didn't. He said:

“Marc has trained the entire week with us, every single training session, the same with Ebs. They’ve prepared the best way for the Chelsea game on Sunday afternoon.
I’ve been in the football business for too long, so I know that at any time of any day, things can happen. If you ask me now, I expect both Marc and Ebs to start on Sunday.”

All of the media reports have come out today, the day after that press conference.

 

[martinelliff]

Eze is at the peak of his value. He can be inconsistent and we will need to replace him eventually. If he is unlikely to extend his contract like MG then perhaps best for all that he goes now.

 

[iheartcpfc]

I can't keep doing these Palace transfer windows. This club takes years off of managers lives

If we don't leave this window with a better squad than when we entered it the club have failed in their remit and failed the manager. A new DOF can't come soon enough, Parish's hands can't be near the controls in the window

 

[Casual]

Do you honestly think that a 31 year old John Stones would be a bench warmer for us? Honestly.

We took Cahill from Chelsea who was miles away from the first team, he was great for us.

Stones/maxim/another , assuming guehi goes.
Wouldn’t make us any weaker.

Seriously, you need to calm down.

Your posts are becoming increasingly erratic and nonsensical. Anyone stating that we should get Sterling for example is simply wanting a player for the sake of it, not because he would add anything to the team. John Stones...a very nice bench warmer. And while we are it why not Rasmus Hoijland or Nicholas Jackson. ??

 

[BromleyMonkey]

That is such a crass comment.. if you think stating the bleeding obvious contributes adds to the discussion then so be it.

I thought keeping Eze was top of everyone’s agenda and selling him cheap definitely wasn’t .

I apologise for my crassness 😀 I assumed everyone else had been listening all week to the presenters/pundits saying Levy was waiting for the release clause to expire so he could go in lower because there’s no way he’d activate the clause for that amount.

 

[PALACE_ENJOYER]

I think it’s clear that SP is out of his depth now, can’t have our best player sitting out first game of the season and not having adequate replacements in, quite frankly it’s embarrassing especially in a season where we have Europe as well. SP has taken the club as far as he can take it. Time to move on now