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The new government – good accomplishments and bad?

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‘The current Labour leader served as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) for five years from 2008-13. That role, as the head of the CPS, is based in London and not understood to require extensive travel.’

‘Starmer’s successor as DPP was Alison Saunders, who served the same five-year term from 2013-2018. Her travel expenses bill from her tenure was £67,340, less than a third of Starmer’s.’

At least we have a well travelled PM I suppose, but a day doesn’t go by without some other controversy…

www.declassifieduk.org

Revealed: Keir Starmer billed taxpayer nearly £250,000 for travel expenses at CPS

The Labour leader racked up an extraordinary expenses bill - an average of close to £50,000 a year - while he was senior public prosecutor, including a chauffeur-driven car alongside first and business class flights around the world.
www.declassifieduk.org www.declassifieduk.org
 
ouzo said:
I do not see him putting the country above party. He has a self serving agenda and is not prepared to listen to what the country thinks, i.e. locking up the rioters without addressing any of the reasons why this came about.
As for winding up the right, how can this be seen as a good thing. I believe I read in another post that you accept that the elected officials are there to serve all persons in their constituencies, therefore, how is winding up the right serving them?
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If you think “the country” as a whole have any sympathy with the rioters then you are delusional. No one I have spoken to has anything but contempt for the way they acted in response to the online incitement and disinformation.

That sympathy is expressed in right wing pockets like this means next to nothing in the wider context.

Winding up the right was admittedly tongue in cheek but it is nevertheless amusing to read all the comments from the right as they work themselves up into a froth of rhetoric. They have no idea how funny, and pathetic, they really are.

I am quite sure any good constituency MP would take up the case of any constituent that has merit. Their personal politics would not matter.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
If you think “the country” as a whole have any sympathy with the rioters then you are delusional. No one I have spoken to has anything but contempt for the way they acted in response to the online incitement and disinformation.

That sympathy is expressed in right wing pockets like this means next to nothing in the wider context.

Winding up the right was admittedly tongue in cheek but it is nevertheless amusing to read all the comments from the right as they work themselves up into a froth of rhetoric. They have no idea how funny, and pathetic, they really are.

I am quite sure any good constituency MP would take up the case of any constituent that has merit. Their personal politics would not matter.
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All you’re trying to do, with your new idol keir starlin, is wave away any objections to immigration. You said it yourself. ‘’Children have to accept diversity.’’ Only not all parents do, but not all parents can afford to move, can they?

A high percentage of people want immigration reduced and you know it, but it’s being denied by your new hero.

You were serious about winding up the right, but unfortunately you’re too stubborn to realise we’ll follow Europe towards far right politics because of your stupidity.
 
Political prisoners and attacks on freedom of speech, huge pay rises for those in powerful Trade Unions, reductions in the income of Old Age Pensioners with indications of more attacks on them to come, Prime Minister and his wife receiving largesse from those seeking influence and preferment, an ill-clad Foreign Secretary who thinks that Henry VII succeeded Henry VIII and that Marie Antionette was a pioneer of radioactivity science and that some variations in temperature is more of a threat to us than Islamic Terrorism and Russian aggression.

All this in a couple of months of the Socialist Utopia. Yet the clowns of the shambolic rabble that the Left has become still cheer them on and spin numerous lies and disinformation to excuse the bedlam.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
All you’re trying to do, with your new idol keir starlin, is wave away any objections to immigration. You said it yourself. ‘’Children have to accept diversity.’’ Only not all parents do, but not all parents can afford to move, can they?

A high percentage of people want immigration reduced and you know it, but it’s being denied by your new hero.

You were serious about winding up the right, but unfortunately you’re too stubborn to realise we’ll follow Europe towards far right politics because of your stupidity.
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I have no more special regard for Starmer than I did for Sunak. I just give credit when I think it’s due.

The rioting had nothing to do with immigration, except in the minds of those who were wound up by the online disinformation.

We can have sensible debates about immigration, the reasons for it and it’s consequences without needing to confront the police, destroy property or threaten those who live and work inside hotels which are housing immigrants.

Just because your personal opinions are not being followed by the government gives no one the right to riot in an attempt to force your opinion on others. This is similar to what happened in Washington on Jan 6th 2021 when the right were wound up and encouraged to overturn the democratic process.

No one wants more immigration than is necessary for our economy to function or for any of it to be via illegal, unmanaged routes.

That the far right in other countries are also reacting is only to be expected. Their societies have fringe views too. There will be pockets where they grow sufficiently strong to assume some actual responsibility. Clacton lookalikes exist elsewhere. It means very little. Some may turn far left too.

The majority will though remain anchored to sensible centre ground social democracy, either leaning left or right but with more in common than with the fringes.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I have no more special regard for Starmer than I did for Sunak. I just give credit when I think it’s due.

The rioting had nothing to do with immigration, except in the minds of those who were wound up by the online disinformation.

We can have sensible debates about immigration, the reasons for it and it’s consequences without needing to confront the police, destroy property or threaten those who live and work inside hotels which are housing immigrants.

Just because your personal opinions are not being followed by the government gives no one the right to riot in an attempt to force your opinion on others. This is similar to what happened in Washington on Jan 6th 2021 when the right were wound up and encouraged to overturn the democratic process.

No one wants more immigration than is necessary for our economy to function or for any of it to be via illegal, unmanaged routes.

That the far right in other countries are also reacting is only to be expected. Their societies have fringe views too. There will be pockets where they grow sufficiently strong to assume some actual responsibility. Clacton lookalikes exist elsewhere. It means very little. Some may turn far left too.

The majority will though remain anchored to sensible centre ground social democracy, either leaning left or right but with more in common than with the fringes.
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Unfortunately there’s too many that want more immigration than is needed or sensible, be it useful idiots or the labour party for their votes.

The riots and the rise in far right politics has happened because people have been ignored and have had to ‘accept diversity’ as you put it, or mass immigration. Some is fair enough. What we’ve experienced is lunacy. I wonder what happens when automation comes round? Hmmm.

There’s a high percentage of people that want it reduced, but you and your heroes ignore it, then scratch your heads.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
I have no more special regard for Starmer than I did for Sunak. I just give credit when I think it’s due.

The rioting had nothing to do with immigration, except in the minds of those who were wound up by the online disinformation.

We can have sensible debates about immigration, the reasons for it and it’s consequences without needing to confront the police, destroy property or threaten those who live and work inside hotels which are housing immigrants.

Just because your personal opinions are not being followed by the government gives no one the right to riot in an attempt to force your opinion on others. This is similar to what happened in Washington on Jan 6th 2021 when the right were wound up and encouraged to overturn the democratic process.

No one wants more immigration than is necessary for our economy to function or for any of it to be via illegal, unmanaged routes.

That the far right in other countries are also reacting is only to be expected. Their societies have fringe views too. There will be pockets where they grow sufficiently strong to assume some actual responsibility. Clacton lookalikes exist elsewhere. It means very little. Some may turn far left too.

The majority will though remain anchored to sensible centre ground social democracy, either leaning left or right but with more in common than with the fringes.
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Unsurprisingly, the people 'living it' tend to disagree...

news.sky.com

'You can shout but they don't listen' - Inside the simmering anger after the riots

Sky's Tom Parmenter has been to Hull and found genuine resentment and anger over the perceived strain placed on local services by asylum seekers and politicians ignoring concerns of local people.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

Oh and this doesn't help matters either...

www.google.com

Hull grooming gang: Alleged victims complain after police officers diverted to deal with summer riots

Two women who first spoke to Sky News in 2021 about allegations they were repeatedly raped as part of an organised child sexual abuse ring have said they are still waiting for justice.
www.google.com www.google.com
 
Foxy82 said:
Unsurprisingly, the people 'living it' tend to disagree...

news.sky.com

'You can shout but they don't listen' - Inside the simmering anger after the riots

Sky's Tom Parmenter has been to Hull and found genuine resentment and anger over the perceived strain placed on local services by asylum seekers and politicians ignoring concerns of local people.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

Oh and this doesn't help matters either...

www.google.com

Hull grooming gang: Alleged victims complain after police officers diverted to deal with summer riots

Two women who first spoke to Sky News in 2021 about allegations they were repeatedly raped as part of an organised child sexual abuse ring have said they are still waiting for justice.
www.google.com www.google.com
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As I said. 35% plus 17% and growing.
 
Interesting that this Waheed Ali who of course expects nothing in return for all this expenditure, was born in Croydon in 1964 and went to Stanley Tech high school in South Norwood.

I don’t have access to this article on Bloomberg so have to trust these donations are all true and that he’s still attending number 10 meetings after having his pass removed…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1836380388564029933
 
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