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Rudi Hedman said:
This isn’t true. Marketing is satisfying consumers needs and wants. Does the consumer need 100 different crisp flavours and varying shapes and crunch levels in the aisles of Sainsbury’s? No, they don’t. They want them (once they know they’re a thing) but they don’t need them. Go in any Lidl or Aldi and there is 90 odd percent of the stuff you need in there.

All you’re doing is what you’ve done before. Arguing that politicians, well the ones you agree with, are the only people who decide what we need or what’s best for us, and that nobody else should have a voice or even an opinion. That is why Reform keeps growing.
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But it is true. Which you actually confirm with your denial, though I doubt you realised it.

Marketing looks beyond the current wants and anticipates what the future needs are. Not all consumers are the same. You don’t ignore the current wants, which is why there are so many different flavours of crisps and a variety of different supermarket offerings.

Aldi and Lidl are examples of good marketing. They understood what a significant and growing proportion of consumers needed. Good quality at good prices, in convenient locations with faff free service. Not heavily advertised brands which cost a premium for the label.

My local large Shell service station has just closed. It will reopen as a supermarket with a small number of self service petrol and diesel pumps and a larger number of super fast EV chargers. It’s on a route used by thousands of tourists every weekend who can stock up whilst recharging. That’s good marketing.

Reform aren’t doing any marketing. They are looking backwards, not forwards. It appeals to some who hanker over what they think they have lost but doesn’t address their future needs.
 
Badger11 said:
Yup I would like to know how Reform will fund this.

Nothing wrong in opposition parties announcing policies but if they want to be taken seriously they need to back it up with funding facts.
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It is the touching faith that people have in any political party and any government that is depressing. People should vote for parties that promise the most dismantling of over-government and over-taxation; the roots of most of our problems.
 
georgenorman said:
It is the touching faith that people have in any political party and any government that is depressing. People should vote for parties that promise the most dismantling of over-government and over-taxation; the roots of most of our problems.
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Agreed.

I voted Reform at the last election to punish the lying Tories. However Reform do not get a blank check and just like Labour and the Tories when they make pledges I want to see them back up by facts.

There is huge overspend in the public services today compared with say 50 years ago. However whilst I am all for cost cutting I want this to be a sniper shot rather than a scatter gun.

Labour are considering abolishing the department for culture and sports I hope they do. Big savings to be made and many of there responsibilities are already covered by other areas.

I would also look at the DTI.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
The green grass beginning to taste bitter even before they have had to do anything anywhere?

What a surprise!
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The amount of blatant lies from the current government, in addition to their self enrichment, means any party can just say what it likes. May as well just say they'll give everyone a million quid. It's starting to make no difference what any say.
Yet, you only seem worried about Reform's future costings. I can only extrapolate that you dislike Farage, yet also that you realise Reform are likely to win.
One of the funniest auto correct things is that when you type Farage, it changes to garage.
 
I laud certain posters desire for honesty I really do.

I just cringe at the fact that we no longer have an electorate that care about it.

Starmer is pretty much the proof of that.

All that matters to the mainstream left is power and they will say anything....copy anything....if they feel they need to. They follow the focus groups and say what the analysis tells them.

The state of the nation's finances are such that an honest politician wouldn't get anywhere, simply because the left told the nation that they were living in austerity since 2008 when the reality was the rate of increases were decreased.......An action that completely ignored the fact that since the nineties the nation had been living on fiscal steroids and has been heading for the cliff ever since......The 2008 crash and Covid spending bringing that cliff face much closer.
 
ASCPFC said:
The amount of blatant lies from the current government, in addition to their self enrichment, means any party can just say what it likes. May as well just say they'll give everyone a million quid. It's starting to make no difference what any say.
Yet, you only seem worried about Reform's future costings. I can only extrapolate that you dislike Farage, yet also that you realise Reform are likely to win.
One of the funniest auto correct things is that when you type Farage, it changes to garage.
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It’s odd how some see lies where others don’t, let alone self enrichment! Which can only be caused by their political biases.

Whatever your perceptions they are no justification for the behaviour of others. I talk about Reform because it’s the subject of this thread! I criticise certainly but I also point out the problem with any political party who has never held any responsibility. They make endless promises but can they keep any? It’s unknown.
 
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