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chris123 said:
I remember the penalty was subject to some discussion at the time in terms of how naughty/compliant he'd been over and above his tax settlement.
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Not at all he simply broke the law and got a very heavy penalty from HMRC very hard to glamourise it ,he tried to defraud Britain plain and simple.A perfect fit for Reform.
 
Former Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi has told the BBC he paid nearly £5m to authorities to settle his tax affairs.

Mr Zahawi was sacked last year as Tory Party chairman after an ethics inquiry found he had failed to disclose that HMRC was investigating his taxes.

He was sorry for not being "more explicit" in his ministerial declaration on the settlement, he told the Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg show.
 
beak said:
Former Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi has told the BBC he paid nearly £5m to authorities to settle his tax affairs.

Mr Zahawi was sacked last year as Tory Party chairman after an ethics inquiry found he had failed to disclose that HMRC was investigating his taxes.

He was sorry for not being "more explicit" in his ministerial declaration on the settlement, he told the Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg show.
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Failure to declare. Or lying. He'll go to any party that will have him, so he can keep his fingers in the pies
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
Failure to declare. Or lying. He'll go to any party that will have him, so he can keep his fingers in the pies
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I support Reform but this guy tried to cheat us out of money - not a good look at all!
However, given that most politicians appear to be doing something wrong most of the time, he is just another crook.
Rayner is just as bad and I would love to know whether she has paid the stamp duty yet
 
steeleye20 said:
Zahawi and Farage, they go well together.

'Bent as a nine-bob note'

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The current government is an affront to freedom and democracy.

The sooner we remove them, the better.

All power to Reform.
 
The Dolphin said:
I support Reform but this guy tried to cheat us out of money - not a good look at all!
However, given that most politicians appear to be doing something wrong most of the time, he is just another crook.
Rayner is just as bad and I would love to know whether she has paid the stamp duty yet
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Except maybe that he was Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time.
 
chris123 said:
I remember the penalty was subject to some discussion at the time in terms of how naughty/compliant he'd been over and above his tax settlement.
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Removing this disgraceful government is the only priority.

Currently, they are predictably trying to ban X. This is all about removing Elon Musk's influence after he attacked Labour for a failure to tackle rape gangs, and now they claim his site is a threat to women and children.

Think about that.

They are trying to strangle our freedom and corrupt democracy. They will stop at nothing to continue destroying this country for their own ends. They are an Orwellian nightmare.
 
Stirlingsays said:
For those obsessed with Brexit and the narrative that it's responsible for our economic woes.

In recent years the worst effect on our economy has been Covid.....and it's not close. Ukraine also has a pressure but that's mostly on energy consumers and adding to the national debt and extra future military spending.

None of that is Brexit.

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Wtf is this? It's nonsense and just some axis numbers, which mean nothing, they are not explained and then just has some 8% bollocks on it for you to suck up. Anyone putting a unicorn on it might just have an agenda - this is for dumbshits who also believe things written on buses.
 
Spindle said:
Wtf is this? It's nonsense and just some axis numbers, which mean nothing, they are not explained and then just has some 8% bollocks on it for you to suck up. Anyone putting a unicorn on it might just have an agenda - this is for dumbshits who also believe things written on buses.
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Dumbshit am I?

Ok genius, while you whine about claims on buses here are a series of claims made by Remain that were outright wrong to the point of deliberate lies.

1. Immediate Recession and Profound Economic Shock
  • Claim: A Leave vote would trigger an "immediate and profound economic shock," pushing the UK into a recession within two years, with GDP contracting significantly.
  • Made by: Then-Chancellor George Osborne and the Treasury's pre-referendum analysis.
  • Why it didn't happen: No recession occurred in 2016-2018; instead, GDP grew at a pace comparable to Germany's in the years following the vote until the COVID-19 pandemic. The Treasury's forecasts were off by around £100 billion (4.6% of GDP) due to flawed assumptions about immediate impacts.
2. Mass Unemployment (Around 500,000 Job Losses)
  • Claim: Brexit would lead to an increase in unemployment by approximately 500,000 people due to economic fallout.
  • Made by: George Osborne and Treasury reports.
  • Why it didn't happen: Employment actually rose by hundreds of thousands in the years after the referendum, with unemployment rates remaining low until external factors like the pandemic intervened.
3. Emergency Budget with Tax Rises and Cuts to Pensions/Benefits
  • Claim: In the event of a Leave win, an emergency budget would be needed, including £30 billion in tax increases and spending cuts, affecting pensions, benefits, and public services.
  • Made by: George Osborne.
  • Why it didn't happen: No emergency budget was implemented in 2016, and there were no immediate cuts to pensions or benefits as predicted.
4. Declining House Prices
  • Claim: House prices would fall sharply due to economic uncertainty from Brexit.
  • Made by: Treasury forecasts.
  • Why it didn't happen: House prices actually increased post-referendum, defying the predictions of a market crash.
5. Immediate Armageddon-Like Economic Gloom
  • Claim: The economic fallout would be swift and severe, with households facing immediate financial hardship (e.g., the often-cited £4,300 worse off per household in the long term, but framed as imminent pain).
  • Made by: Various Remain figures, including Treasury-backed warnings emphasized by campaign leaders.
  • Why it didn't happen: As admitted by Stuart Rose (head of the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign), the dangers were overstated, and there was no immediate "Armageddon" – no mass job losses or overnight economic collapse. The campaign's heavy focus on finances was later called a strategic mistake.

Care to explain yourself Mr Spindle the Economic Genius.
 
Quoting George Osborne is no endorsement. This is a twit who lost our AAA rating. You posted a graph, the graph is total meaningless bollocks with the same intention as the bus bullshit. Don't get pissy because I pointed that out, you may as well have put up a picture of a flat earth.

Sterling collapsed overnight and hasn't recovered since, that's your first clue. Then, capital flight from the city - many businesses shipped out and also led to poor investment in FTSE markets - It's why LSE is currently still considered undervalued despite talking of a bubble. But regardless, like global warming only a fanatic would deny it, there's plenty of actual credible data if you want it rather than what you want to hear.
 
Spindle said:
Thieving scumbag

www.bbc.co.uk

Former Tory Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi defects to Reform UK

Zahawi is the latest former Conservative MP to join Nigel Farage's party, as a Tory source claims he had approached Kemi Badenoch seeking a nomination for the Lords.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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This is probably the Tories trying to undermine Reform. I'd refuse to take him.
I had a look at two opinion polls and Tories were above Labour by a couple of percent. It's either wrong or shows just how crap Labour are. Reform were 29%, Tories 18% and Labour 16% on the two polls I saw. I was surprised by Tories being anywhere like that.
 
Spindle said:
Quoting George Osborne is no endorsement. This is a twit who lost our AAA rating. You posted a graph, the graph is total meaningless bollocks with the same intention as the bus bullshit. Don't get pissy because I pointed that out, you may as well have put up a picture of a flat earth.

Sterling collapsed overnight and hasn't recovered since, that's your first clue. Then, capital flight from the city - many businesses shipped out and also led to poor investment in FTSE markets - It's why LSE is currently still considered undervalued despite talking of a bubble. But regardless, like global warming only a fanatic would deny it, there's plenty of actual credible data if you want it rather than what you want to hear.
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Osborne was literally the main guy making the economic arguments for Remain. Show me the Remain guys who were denying what Obsorne was saying above?

You can't because there weren't.....they were all talking bollocks.

So recognize that when you go on about messages on Buses that Remain lied just as much as anyone else. The graph isn't 'meaningless bollocks' at all. It shows that our economy hasn't suffered significantly due to Brexit and in fact Germany's has.....for several reasons.....2008 and Covid stuffed the country not 2016.

We can't leave the f***ing human rights act and sort out immigration while we remain in your precious economically bust EU.

You'd install the permanent liberal order permanently in this country just for your own personal reasons.
 
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ASCPFC said:
This is probably the Tories trying to undermine Reform. I'd refuse to take him.
I had a look at two opinion polls and Tories were above Labour by a couple of percent. It's either wrong or shows just how crap Labour are. Reform were 29%, Tories 18% and Labour 16% on the two polls I saw. I was surprised by Tories being anywhere like that.
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He is an experienced Parliamentarian, which Reform needs. I don't suppose that Farage sees him as anything more than a useful ally to add experience and know how when in government.

He will be out the door if he proves to be a liability.
 
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