Prof Jason Arday

[Stirlingsays]

I have one picking point with this video. Did he actually lie about having autism? I know the non verbal stuff has been disputed but this is the first time I have heard of him apparently lying about having the disability itself. I have a disability myself which I can very easily prove with doctors notes ect. If he actually had autism surely that can be easily proved?

Autism is a very wide ranging condition.

Classically it speaks to difficulties with social interaction and communication.....it's often over diagnosed.

It's only really worth talking about as a harmful condition when it's low functioning as many males (it's a majority male condition) have autism to a mild degree and it doesn't harm them in life.....when it's mild it can be the guy who's socially awkward and doesn't know quite what to say. We never use to even bother labelling this.

Indeed, most with high functioning autism made the modern world and are some of the most successful people as a high IQ bridges many problems.

But low functioning autism is where the real problems are.

 

[Stirlingsays]

 

[Mark B]

Autism is a very wide ranging condition.

Classically it speaks to difficulties with social interaction and communication.....it's often over diagnosed.

It's only really worth talking about as a harmful condition when it's low functioning as many males (it's a majority male condition) have autism to a mild degree and it doesn't harm them in life.....when it's mild it can be the guy who's socially awkward and doesn't know quite what to say. We never use to even bother labelling this.

Indeed, most with high functioning autism made the modern world and are some of the most successful people as a high IQ bridges many problems.

But low functioning autism is where the real problems are.

I would add that we have a created a modern problem as well were the existence of it has become a problem in dealing with them as some are left free to do what they want out of fear by others of being accused of being mean towards them.

Suicidal empathy is a Western ideal that goes far beyond people on the spectrum though.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

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Standard libtard hypocricy.

 

[Joseph Paxton]

What has happened over last 30 years is that the time-honoured social contract of: work hard at school, get your qualifications, stay healthy, get a good career job, pay your mortgage and taxes and be kind to your less fortunate neighbours at Christmas - has wholly broken down.

With that evaporarion of being rewarded for striving and keeping your nose clean in life comes a seductive replacement: to play up your struggles and suffering, to accentuate apparent injustices and I am sorry to say, foreground victimhood to gain not only concessions but actual status gains. As a manager, I saw it all too frequently at work and HAD to make concessions even if I thought I was being gamed at times.

Jason Arday had no shame whatsover in operating in this new post-truth pathway. A multitude of tremendous 'unfair' deprivations and his apparent triumph over them became his entire identity and this was catnip to the progressive DEI academic caucus. Does he now becomes patron saint of the dispossesed and put-upon? He does not deserve to be deified but this modern strand of progressive victimhood (some are calling it suicidal empathy - though I disagree) must be tackled and the return of the phlegmatic British spirit should be emboldened.

Keep Calm and Carry On !

 

[Stirlingsays]

 

[Stirlingsays]

To me this is the progressive left coming out to lie and shape the narrative to protect their bag.

The DEI industry is massive and extensive, embedded into the institutions and funded by the taxpayer without justification or having been asked. We see the industry here attempting to turn Arday into some kind of George Floyd figure.

Completely aided and abetted by the BBC and woke media plus our David Brent PM. It's an embarrassment and open proof of how captured our institutions are.....The truth doesn't matter to them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2089472484085211226

 

[HKOwen]

Gaming the system is well established, there is no national will to stop it. Whether it be motobility, fake diagnosis etc etc.

The difference with Ardy is ......nothing except he was better known and a DEI poster boy.

I don't remember the same outrage when the farmer killed himself after the inheritance tax change.

If only the farmer was black and a serial liar

 

[Spindle]

To me this is the progressive left coming out to lie and shape the narrative to protect their bag.

The DEI industry is massive and extensive, embedded into the institutions and funded by the taxpayer without justification or having been asked. We see the industry here attempting to turn Arday into some kind of George Floyd figure.

Completely aided and abetted by the BBC and woke media plus our David Brent PM. It's an embarrassment and open proof of how captured our institutions are.....The truth doesn't matter to them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2089472484085211226

For me this is an easy way to find out who isn't British and upholds British values of fairness

 

[Matov]

To me this is the progressive left coming out to lie and shape the narrative to protect their bag.

The DEI industry is massive and extensive, embedded into the institutions and funded by the taxpayer without justification or having been asked. We see the industry here attempting to turn Arday into some kind of George Floyd figure.

Completely aided and abetted by the BBC and woke media plus our David Brent PM. It's an embarrassment and open proof of how captured our institutions are.....The truth doesn't matter to them.

It's a form of mass hysteria. And bloody weird.

The mans suicide was a tragedy for his family and friends. Without a shadow of a doubt. But he was effectively put up on a pedestal whose foundations crumbled under the most minor of initial scrutiny and he did not survive the fall.

So who is at fault here? The person who showed how fake that foundation was? Or those who put the man up at such a height that when the inevitable fall came, he never made it?

Oddly enough, I can now start to see how he was a victim, of a kind. And in the biggest irony of it all, the victim of those who gathered last night to claim to mourn him.

 

[Badger11]

For me this is an easy way to find out who isn't British and upholds British values of fairness

The people who used this man as a totem pole for their ideology are still doing it after his death whilst complaining that others are using him for their own political aims.

 

[Badger11]

An observation, this is not specific to race or gender but human nature.

My career was based around working for the largest bank in the world, it was a tough well paid Darwin environment and you either delivered or did not last long.

However in that environment I noticed over the years a trend, we still had useless over promoted people.

Within a large corporation there are many departments and roles. Most of these roles came with hard targets that could easily be verified. For instance:

Sales: Who much do you sell
FX / Market Trader: How much revenue do you make
Project Manager (my role): Project delivered on time and on budget.
Etc.

It's no surprise that the people who "couldn't" avoided roles like this as they would be found out fairly quickly. Instead these people would gravitate to the roles that did not have hard targets and were more difficult to judge performance wise.

HR and Training being the more obvious ones. There are good people in those areas but it can be quite difficult to prove if someone is good or under performing, and if the latter you run the risk of being accused of some form of discrimination. So there is a reluctance to treat these roles the way you would an FX dealer who is not meeting his targets.

To my point, DEI is just another woolly role that does not have hard targets and so entices people who maybe average or below to go for those roles.

If for instance a DEI person is told that the company must improve it's recruitment in a certain demographic and it hasn't, that person can blame HR, or the line managers for not listening, and to some extent they maybe right. Of course if the company succeeds that individual will not doubt take the credit even if it was other people.

So major companies have created roles that some might say are non jobs, just so they can hire people who maybe from a particular demographic and to allow said company to virtue signal.

My best work friend is Nigerian, like me he spent his entire career in the roles that had hard targets and he excelled, he got higher up the ladder than I did. If you told him he was the DEI hire you would be holding your teeth in your hands.

As I said at the start it is human nature to gravitate towards jobs you can do, it's not because you are black or gay it's because you are human. If companies are stupid enough to create non jobs I don't blame anyone for accepting them.

I think this is what is really worrying the left. Some companies are starting to realise that that their policies and DEI roles are just not beneficial to their profit margins. That doesn't mean that they should ignore certain demographics it just means that there are other ways to ensure people are treated fairly.

And if that means that some demographics are under represented then so be it. I don't hear anyone complaining about the lack of female refuse collectors.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Autism is a very wide ranging condition.

Classically it speaks to difficulties with social interaction and communication.....it's often over diagnosed.

It's only really worth talking about as a harmful condition when it's low functioning as many males (it's a majority male condition) have autism to a mild degree and it doesn't harm them in life.....when it's mild it can be the guy who's socially awkward and doesn't know quite what to say. We never use to even bother labelling this.

Indeed, most with high functioning autism made the modern world and are some of the most successful people as a high IQ bridges many problems.

But low functioning autism is where the real problems are.

According to NHS England roughly 1 In a hundred people are autistic whereas among children the figure on the spectrum is 1 in 57 is it possible that kids now have so many alternatives to "going out to play" that they are under socialised and will the post lockdown figures show a rise in the total? Or is the condition being over diagnosed?

 

[Stirlingsays]

According to NHS England roughly 1 In a hundred people are autistic whereas among children the figure on the spectrum is 1 in 57 is it possible that kids now have so many alternatives to "going out to play" that they are under socialised and will the post lockdown figures show a rise in the total? Or is the condition being over diagnosed?

I think it is, still it's a good point.

 

[Badger11]

Autism is a very wide ranging condition.

Classically it speaks to difficulties with social interaction and communication.....it's often over diagnosed.

It's only really worth talking about as a harmful condition when it's low functioning as many males (it's a majority male condition) have autism to a mild degree and it doesn't harm them in life.....when it's mild it can be the guy who's socially awkward and doesn't know quite what to say. We never use to even bother labelling this.

Indeed, most with high functioning autism made the modern world and are some of the most successful people as a high IQ bridges many problems.

But low functioning autism is where the real problems are.

Agreed. My nephews are on the lower end of the scale, it manifests as social awkwardness. It doesn't mean that they need to be on benefits or get special treatment from employers. It just means that people need to cut them some slack in social interaction in the work place.

It also doesn't mean that if they fail to do a good job they get a free pass.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

An observation, this is not specific to race or gender but human nature.

My career was based around working for the largest bank in the world, it was a tough well paid Darwin environment and you either delivered or did not last long.

However in that environment I noticed over the years a trend, we still had useless over promoted people.

Within a large corporation there are many departments and roles. Most of these roles came with hard targets that could easily be verified. For instance:

Sales: Who much do you sell
FX / Market Trader: How much revenue do you make
Project Manager (my role): Project delivered on time and on budget.
Etc.

It's no surprise that the people who "couldn't" avoided roles like this as they would be found out fairly quickly. Instead these people would gravitate to the roles that did not have hard targets and were more difficult to judge performance wise.

HR and Training being the more obvious ones. There are good people in those areas but it can be quite difficult to prove if someone is good or under performing, and if the latter you run the risk of being accused of some form of discrimination. So there is a reluctance to treat these roles the way you would an FX dealer who is not meeting his targets.

To my point, DEI is just another woolly role that does not have hard targets and so entices people who maybe average or below to go for those roles.

If for instance a DEI person is told that the company must improve it's recruitment in a certain demographic and it hasn't, that person can blame HR, or the line managers for not listening, and to some extent they maybe right. Of course if the company succeeds that individual will not doubt take the credit even if it was other people.

So major companies have created roles that some might say are non jobs, just so they can hire people who maybe from a particular demographic and to allow said company to virtue signal.

My best work friend is Nigerian, like me he spent his entire career in the roles that had hard targets and he excelled, he got higher up the ladder than I did. If you told him he was the DEI hire you would be holding your teeth in your hands.

As I said at the start it is human nature to gravitate towards jobs you can do, it's not because you are black or gay it's because you are human. If companies are stupid enough to create non jobs I don't blame anyone for accepting them.

I think this is what is really worrying the left. Some companies are starting to realise that that their policies and DEI roles are just not beneficial to their profit margins. That doesn't mean that they should ignore certain demographics it just means that there are other ways to ensure people are treated fairly.

And if that means that some demographics are under represented then so be it. I don't hear anyone complaining about the lack of female refuse collectors.

I would add those who specialise in change management. What a scam that is - go into a workplace and make daft recommendations which completely ignore the opinions and experience of those actually doing the work then clear off and not have to deal with the fallout. Then more change management can come in. Rinse and repeat until things revert to the way they were before this interference.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Autism is a very wide ranging condition.

Classically it speaks to difficulties with social interaction and communication.....it's often over diagnosed.

It's only really worth talking about as a harmful condition when it's low functioning as many males (it's a majority male condition) have autism to a mild degree and it doesn't harm them in life.....when it's mild it can be the guy who's socially awkward and doesn't know quite what to say. We never use to even bother labelling this.

Indeed, most with high functioning autism made the modern world and are some of the most successful people as a high IQ bridges many problems.

But low functioning autism is where the real problems are.

every bloke in the World is susceptible to being a bit autistic. Myself included. If you know how many valves are in the engine of your car, you are probably on the spectrum.

football fans, music buffs, ham radio enthusiasts, comic book collectors, militaria enthusiasts.......... its a far more male preserve.

 

[Stirlingsays]

every bloke in the World is susceptible to being a bit autistic. Myself included. If you know how many valves are in the engine of your car, you are probably on the spectrum.

football fans, music buffs, ham radio enthusiasts, comic book collectors, militaria enthusiasts.......... its a far more male preserve.

What would in the modern day be called mild autism is extremely common in males.

It would have never be diagnosed in the past and it forms the element of what I consider over diagnosing.

The only autism that causes proper problems is low functioning.....obviously there is a spectrum or line that exists between something we can ignore and something that requires help.

You just hope that we have common sense in understanding between the two.

I think Arday is an example of there being no common sense in that diagnoses.

 

[Badger11]

I would add those who specialise in change management. What a scam that is - go into a workplace and make daft recommendations which completely ignore the opinions and experience of those actually doing the work then clear off and not have to deal with the fallout. Then more change management can come in. Rinse and repeat until things revert to the way they were before this interference.

I was involved in Change Management a lot. I partly agree with you that those who just said "sack these people and automate the process" and then wafted off were as you say just BS merchants.

As a Project Manager I was the mug who actually had to make it happen so Change Managements as such can have hard targets.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I was involved in Change Management a lot. I partly agree with you that those who just said "sack these people and automate the process" and then wafted off were as you say just BS merchants.

As a Project Manager I was the mug who actually had to make it happen so Change Managements as such can have hard targets.

They can but in my experience if their recommendations don't work it's the staff who have to carry the can despite giving explicit reasons as to why they wouldn't in the first place.