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Plight of Farmers.

Removing Thatcher’s misguided tax relief needs to be one step amongst others. Farmland sales need to be better controlled and we also need broader land reform. Especially in Scotland.
 
People shouldn't be surprised Marxists despise small farmers. They don't think land should be owned by private individuals. Farms should be collectively owned by the community or the state with no profit motive. Inheritance tax is a useful tool to screw farmers over as they believe you should not acquire any capital and the state should have it instead.
 
Penge Eagle said:
People shouldn't be surprised Marxists despise small farmers. They don't think land should be owned by private individuals. Farms should be collectively owned by the community or the state with no profit motive. Inheritance tax is a useful tool to screw farmers over as they believe you should not acquire any capital and the state should have it instead.
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Who are these Marxists? Land reform is based upon fair private ownership. You may have noticed much land isn’t owned by individuals but by corporations based offshore. It is these organisations that impact upon small farmers. Farmers owning over £3m in land can hardly be called small, when most farms are worth less than a million.
 
Mapletree said:
Who are these Marxists? Land reform is based upon fair private ownership. You may have noticed much land isn’t owned by individuals but by corporations based offshore. It is these organisations that impact upon small farmers. Farmers owning over £3m in land can hardly be called small, when most farms are worth less than a million.
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What do you mean by 'fair' here?
 
mezzer said:
I find this a bit offensive. I lost my partner of 20 years to lung cancer recently She died within 5 weeks of diagnosis. We wrote wills but committed the crime of choosing not to marry because we both experienced horrendous marriages previously. Both were abusive in their own way. We were very, very happy together. We owned a property together and were married in everything but name, yet I had to pay tens of thousands in IHT, having our property valued within weeks of her death despite living in it with all her things still here, and paying this tens of thousands immediately to HMRC.

I consider myself an immediate heir. We did write wills. We didn't "gift" it away because we needed what we had to live and enjoy ourselves. I believe we were "sensible" people. We just didn't want to get married through personal experience. Her estate was above £325,000 because of the flat the we bought (and loved) together.

The money that I paid is irrelevant. Many people will think that we were "lucky" to have enough to tax. The fact that we both came back from, literally, the brink of losing everything material or otherwise from previous relationships doesn't make us not sensible. My kids and myself have had to pay the price for our "lack of planning".

That said, I wouldn't change a thing of the time we had together. It just seems a little bit wrong that that our very personal choice cost so much. And I'm just glad that it was my lovely other half that went first as I'm not sure how she would have coped if it was the other way round.
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I shall read your posts with a new perspective in future mezzer. Take care. POG
 
Mapletree said:
Who are these Marxists? Land reform is based upon fair private ownership. You may have noticed much land isn’t owned by individuals but by corporations based offshore. It is these organisations that impact upon small farmers. Farmers owning over £3m in land can hardly be called small, when most farms are worth less than a million.
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Keir Starmer and the Labour party are Marxists. People who support their policies are Marxist – they don't even realise. The private schools tax raid is another Marxist policy.

What is "fair" exactly and who decides? "Reform" is the buzzword which means something needs changing and it's interesting that this reform only goes one way...
 
Mapletree said:
Who are these Marxists? Land reform is based upon fair private ownership. You may have noticed much land isn’t owned by individuals but by corporations based offshore. It is these organisations that impact upon small farmers. Farmers owning over £3m in land can hardly be called small, when most farms are worth less than a million.
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And how does IHT work on corporations based offshore or not?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You just don’t like government even though they are chosen by all of us to serve our needs. You think everything is bad that doesn’t match your own, highly dubious, opinions.

You can think it’s immoral. That’s your right. Others don’t and that’s there’s. IT exists because successive governments, of all types, have decided it should. Governments chosen by us.
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some of you, less than a third wasnt it???
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Everyone else gets a share of every £ of tax paid by someone else. That’s the way taxes work. Do you think they just go into the pockets of MPs?

It’s hardly unusual for more than one tax to apply. You buy most things with income that has had income tax deducted but with VAT added. IT is no different. It only affects the rich who fail to make sensible arrangements. Give your wealth away 7 years before you die to a relative and they inherit the lot. You can even insure against the risk to them of you dying earlier. What your spouse inherits, usually most of it, is free of tax.

People who plan need have no concerns. Take advice! Write wills! Give gifts! It’s when there are no immediate heirs and only distant relatives who will inherit, people often with no connection at all to the deceased, or people haven’t been planning sensibly, that there will be an issue. Then the estate must pay on anything above £325,000.

Is it moral that someone gets a large windfall from someone they might have never met, but you don’t?
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please explain what I got as my share of everyone elses tax (and my own)
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
The military who defend you The roads you drive on. The health service that looks after you.

I could go on, but that’s enough. Taxes we all contribute pay for the things we all share.
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The military that they are turning into a version of Denmark's before WWII and the roads that they are making it increasingly difficult to use and the health service that seems increasingly incapable of looking after us, you mean?
 
the silurian said:
paid my RF licence, so no...private healthcare..so no.....
you do wissie, all the time
paid a fortune in IHT dont live in UK so how do I benefit from that?
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You pay tax wherever you live, even if your income is taxed in your home country. All tax goes to paying for things we do together, via our elected representatives. If you choose not to use your share that’s your decision. It’s there for you as a right.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You pay tax wherever you live, even if your income is taxed in your home country. All tax goes to paying for things we do together, via our elected representatives. If you choose not to use your share that’s your decision. It’s there for you as a right.
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more nonsense, I pay no tax because I dont earn enough. I did have to pay IHT last year, into a country i dont live in....i didnt chose not to use my share as you put it, it was never an option.. if I return to UK, can I have my share then?
 
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