Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

The whole 'decisive control' argument is rendered slightly meaningless when we have to surrender our space to a club whose owner is staging a one man pitch invasion to berate his manager two weeks after sticking his shares in a blind trust.
Someone please explain how this works.
 
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highbury eagle said:
The whole 'decisive control' argument is rendered slightly meaningless when we have to surrender our space to a club who's owner is staging a one man pitch invasion to berate his manager two weeks after sticking his shares in a blind trust.
Someone please explain how this works.
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I looked at the rules around that a while back.

Without going into the detail, he was entitled to do that - ridiculous as it may seem
 
It stinks when you consider the financial irregularities of so many clubs that UEFA have conveniently ignored. Then there's the MCO's that have been allowed to compete in the same competitions. It does make me angry. Especially with undeserving Forest fans in the background laughing at us and gloating while lauding their fat pie addicted owner for being a whiney little girl running to tell tales to UEFA in the hope they'll get the prize by default.
But... we have got to move past this. CAS decision is final. It cannot be appealed. I'd say the only damage limitation now would be to sue Textor as if UEFA ruled his failure to place his shares in blind trust was their reason for our demotion and CAS have upheld that decision then regardless of whether we agree with that or not a court of law would recognise the Textor is responsible for Palace losing the EL place. For the record, I never really believed that and still dont but the courts cant have it both ways. If our ban is because of Textor's inaction the Textor should be compensating us. But for God sake, if the club are to do that do it quietly. Refuse to comment to the media about it and keep the whole thing in house. If the press get wind of it make it clear we will never comment. There has been enough distraction from the more important issues.
What we need to do now in my opinion is shut out all the noise, focus on getting Glasner the players he needs and trying to win the Conference League and with any luck try and get Glasner to extend his contract. Keep building, moving forward.
How sweet would it be if this time next year we are Conference League winners and looking forward to EL football in 26/27 season?
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
Its over now, unjust, cheated, the Conference league is basically a two team tournament, go and win it, Chelsea made the effort, and didn't need too, sell Guehi get 3/4 in, buy or loan and move on, don't let the cheating UEFA drag us down, and don't sell Eze, his release is up, or up in 4 days, so its a no.
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I’m with you on this Lanzo. A centre back and a striker plus a loan or two and we might win the Carabao Cup as well!
 
highbury eagle said:
The whole 'decisive control' argument is rendered slightly meaningless when we have to surrender our space to a club whose owner is staging a one man pitch invasion to berate his manager two weeks after sticking his shares in a blind trust.
Someone please explain how this works.
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I suspect it became irrelevant when Forest’s bottle went and they lost their CL place. UEFA and CAS probably dismissed any argument relating to Forest on those grounds.
 
Mary Knickers represents another triumph for the fit and proper test. His CV includes:
In England:
  • The FA charged Marinakis with misconduct following Nottingham Forest's match against Fulham on September 28, 2024, for improper behavior around the tunnel area after the game.

  • He received a five-match stadium ban for allegedly spitting at match officials after the same match.

  • He was also fined £750,000 for a social media post about the VAR referee after the Fulham match.
In Greece:
  • Marinakis faced charges of match-fixing and creating a criminal gang, which he denied.

  • He was also accused of involvement in a drug trafficking case and other serious charges, which he also denied.
Still at least he put his shares in a blind trust. Albeit after the deadline.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Mary Knickers represents another triumph for the fit and proper test. His CV includes:
In England:
  • The FA charged Marinakis with misconduct following Nottingham Forest's match against Fulham on September 28, 2024, for improper behavior around the tunnel area after the game.

  • He received a five-match stadium ban for allegedly spitting at match officials after the same match.

  • He was also fined £750,000 for a social media post about the VAR referee after the Fulham match.
In Greece:
  • Marinakis faced charges of match-fixing and creating a criminal gang, which he denied.

  • He was also accused of involvement in a drug trafficking case and other serious charges, which he also denied.
Still at least he put his shares in a blind trust. Albeit after the deadline.
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He is a seriously nasty piece of work. If this was Chicago in the 1920’s he would be investigated for tax evasion!

I hope the new football regulator tackles people like him and bans anyone from holding a share in an English club if they have any interest in another anywhere. The fit and proper purpose test needs to remove characters like him. So I hope it can be done retrospectively and him given time to sell, or return his shares at face value. If that costs him, so be it.
 
PatrickA said:
That may well be right, but the Guardian is reporting that Palace may consider suing UEFA for compensation.

City news media suggested we may explore other legal avenues.

We may have agreed to abide by the CAS decision re the appeal, but that may not preclude us seeking other remedies.

I'm not saying this will happen, but it could go towards explaining the delay in an official statement from Palace.
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I think that’s right. Parish has wisely been very careful with his public statements. You don’t want to prejudice your own position or get sued for slander.

I think he will wait until the full reasoning from CAS is published, or at least passed to the parties. Then studied by the lawyers to determine if we have reached the end of the legal road or whether a compensation claim makes good sense.

That would run totally separately to the team preparing for the games and the efforts to strengthen now we know where we be playing. Indeed we may now not strengthen too much until we are certain we get past the qualifying round, but have conditional deals lined up.

Everyone needs to be very patient.
 
Willo said:
From the erudite Henry Winter :

"Where Eagles despair. John Textor is the culpable one here, not Uefa’s rule-book and the European governing body being sticklers for regulations and deadlines. So no surprise that Crystal Palace failed in their attempt to persuade CAS to overturn Uefa decision to demote them to Europa Conference League for breaching multi-club ownership regs. Textor needed to divest himself of stake earlier. “After considering the evidence, the Panel found that John Textor, founder of Eagle Football Holdings,had shares in CPFC and OL (Lyon) and was a Board member with decisive influence over both clubs at the time of UEFA’s assessment date," CAS says. "The Panel also dismissed the argument by CPFC that they received unfair treatment in comparison to Nottingham Forest and OL. The Panel considered that the UEFA Regulations are clear and do not provide flexibility to clubs that are non-compliant on the assessment date, as CPFC claimed.” Palace will still feel aggrieved, and feeling that so-called bigger clubs would have got away with it. Palace have to use this frustration as fuel to galvanise them further, building on that defiant spirit they showed at Wembley (again), and go and embarrass Uefa by winning the Conference League in Leipzig next May. More likely to win a European trophy now. West Ham and Chelsea celebrated winning the UECL. Important time now for Steve Parish and Oliver Glasner together to rally the club - fans, staff and players - and remind everyone of the special bond they have and the special journey they are on (albeit now via Leipzig) and try to ensure they don’t lose Marc Guehi to Liverpool and/or Eberechi Eze to Arsenal, as seems possible. Time to be strong"
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Sorry but I find this s*** so patronising. Don't worry plucky Palace, you still have the third rate cup to go for! Yes, you've been utterly robbed of having European giants visit Selhurst in a tournament you could actually have a good crack at but never mind, enjoy Midgetland or Fredericksdad plus a load of ex Soviet outfits. If you're lucky you'll get the Italian Aston Villa in the final to get into the cup you should have rightfully been in in the first place if a load of soulless husks for humans didn't decide a man who sold his stake in the club because he didn't have any control had decisive influence (oh, and finishing 6th in the French league outweighs winning the greatest domestic cup in the world)

Sick to b****** death of neutrals this summer.
 
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