Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

[Jason Smith]

you have used far to many big words , stop trying to take Willos throne 🤣🤣🤣

Apologies for discombobulating you!

 

[Spiderman]

Are they the newly named Nottingham lyonafogo?

Tifo?

 

[mtp1958]

Have come to this conclusion weeks ago. Just hope the lawyer's fees have not been too onerous because our chances of success with CAS don't look good.
Pity this has dragged on so long as it is hampering the manager's plans.

Morally we are in the right but the CAS will judge on facts and, unless anyone knows better, our case for reinstatement looks fragile to say the least.

The pursuit of UEFA for justice must wait for another day when bigger, richer and more influential protagonists can combine to make our case against their mis-management and wrong doing.

seems to me you have never been involved in a tribunal , which CAS is ,
we have a very strong case , due to the rules have no clear order of accountability , it goes in and out , opening line says were guilty but , rest of the rule says we are innocent ,
CAS will take that into account , as we can prove Textor didn't have the influence to break the rules , Then add in evidence which we are not privy to , and our current status , so I will be shocked if its not found in our favour ,
why is forest and Lyon added , because the lawyers can see a clear line , you just like stirring ,
Depending on the out come , we have a case against UEFA for delaying a decision and allowing Lyon time to sort there problems out but not ours

 

[Eaglecoops]

I'd rather we spend our money on players than on lawyers.

To be fair we’ve wasted a lot more money on players over the years and their employ wasn’t quite as important as this.

 

[mtp1958]

Apologies for discombobulating you!

Dam where's my dictionary need to rewrite 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[Teddy Eagle]

To be fair we’ve wasted a lot more money on players over the years and their employ wasn’t quite as important as this.

Unfortunately true. Perhaps we can go to CAS about them as well; at least that should be open and shut.

 

[Part Time James]

To be fair we’ve wasted a lot more money on players over the years and their employ wasn’t quite as important as this.

Is it worth finding out whether Ade Akinbiyi or Christian Benteke have passed the bar exam?

 

[est1905]

seems to me you have never been involved in a tribunal , which CAS is ,
we have a very strong case , due to the rules have no clear order of accountability , it goes in and out , opening line says were guilty but , rest of the rule says we are innocent ,
CAS will take that into account , as we can prove Textor didn't have the influence to break the rules , Then add in evidence which we are not privy to , and our current status , so I will be shocked if its not found in our favour ,
why is forest and Lyon added , because the lawyers can see a clear line , you just like stirring ,
Depending on the out come , we have a case against UEFA for delaying a decision and allowing Lyon time to sort there problems out but not ours

Well put

 

[Uphill]

seems to me you have never been involved in a tribunal , which CAS is ,
we have a very strong case , due to the rules have no clear order of accountability , it goes in and out , opening line says were guilty but , rest of the rule says we are innocent ,
CAS will take that into account , as we can prove Textor didn't have the influence to break the rules , Then add in evidence which we are not privy to , and our current status , so I will be shocked if its not found in our favour ,
why is forest and Lyon added , because the lawyers can see a clear line , you just like stirring ,
Depending on the out come , we have a case against UEFA for delaying a decision and allowing Lyon time to sort there problems out but not ours

You are correct, I have never experienced a tribunal.
Do we have a strong case? It is not my feeling. I will be astonished (but delighted) if we succeed but I am not sanguine even if we have the best lawyers available. It strikes me that UEFA are a law unto themselves and I am of the opinion that CAS will side with them. We will shall see.

 

[mtp1958]

Right people we have 66 pages to go for 300 , we need to speak more cr#p than normal before we reach CAS ruling 😱😱

 

[Part Time James]

Right people we have 66 pages to go for 300 , we need to speak more cr#p than normal before we reach CAS ruling 😱😱

This is my time to shine.

 

[mtp1958]

You are correct, I have never experienced a tribunal.
Do we have a strong case? It is not my feeling. I will be astonished (but delighted) if we succeed but I am not sanguine even if we have the best lawyers available. It strikes me that UEFA are a law unto themselves and I am of the opinion that CAS will side with them. We will shall see.

CAS will follow the evidence not the power , other wise they bring there self into disrepute , and open to challenge

 

[Jason Smith]

Dam where's my dictionary need to rewrite 🤣 🤣 🤣

Try spelling dam with an ‘n’, but that would just discombobulate you even more. Over to you, Willo!

 

[Paaalaaace]

Evangelos Marinakis is so fat; if he went camping with us, the bears would be too occupied hiding their food so we’d be safe

 

[mtp1958]

Is it worth finding out whether Ade Akinbiyi or Christian Benteke have passed the bar exam?

yes they did it was there round 🤣

 

[Paaalaaace]

Steve Parish walked up to Evangelos Marinakis and said to everyone, ‘Look! When we stand together, we look like the number 10

 

[est1905]

You are correct, I have never experienced a tribunal.
Do we have a strong case? It is not my feeling. I will be astonished (but delighted) if we succeed but I am not sanguine even if we have the best lawyers available. It strikes me that UEFA are a law unto themselves and I am of the opinion that CAS will side with them. We will shall see.

Why would CAS side with them? They have nothing to do with each other. In cases gone by they have reprimanded UEFA far more often than any of their opponents. UEFA are indeed a law unto themselves which is why, when challenged on their own rules they usually lose

 

[Part Time James]

Anyone got any good headlines if this doesn't go our way?

I was going to suggest "Palace CAStrated"

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Try spelling dam with an ‘n’, but that would just discombobulate you even more. Over to you, Willo!

Ndam?

 

[PatrickA]

I haven’t found a pundit, ‘expert,’ commentator or observer of European football who expect CAS to find in our favour.

Does that matter?
Possibly not, but some of them have much greater knowledge and experience than I ( and probably other posters) have of the workings of UEFA and CAS.

The central point seems to be that UEFA has decided that Palace are part of a multi ownership model, and CAS won’t overturn this on the basis that UEFA must have concrete evidence that met their criteria i.e they satisfied that necessary burden of proof.

Of course we could have new evidence to submit, or we could attack the decision on other grounds e.g failure to communicate properly, discrimination as to treatment of other clubs in comparison to Palace, the actions of Lyon and Forest.

However, if UEFA is the ultimate arbiter of what constitutes a multi ownership model I don’t feel as confident as others.
It could be something as trivial as Textor’s shareholding, the dealings on O’Brien, any correspondence involving Textor on Glasner’s appointment.

I’m not suggesting that this is right or fair, but I am suggesting that it may be enough for UEFA to claim that they are satisfied in terms of their rules and definition of the model.