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[Wisbech Eagle]

This attitude of AfD can also be found in the USA where it is every bit as impractical and just populist rabble rousing to attract attention and votes.

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[Teddy Eagle]

You would be OK.

You look like everyone else and that’s what matters most.

That must be why Catholics and Protestants have always got on so well. Russians and Ukrainians don't look too different either.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

I was really interested in the ringing endorsement above of That AfD statement by Mr Hillbilly. That's not really me inventing anything here but reacting to a poster who has endorsed the party on that 'remigration' point; that seems sweeping without any nuances as stated by other replies to me.

No?

it wasn't intended to be a personal endorsement by myself. (though my own politics should have nothing to do with it). My fault for sloppy writing
It was meant as an observation as to how much support the AfD have

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That must be why Catholics and Protestants have always got on so well. Russians and Ukrainians don't look too different either.

Maybe we should just burn all the Catholics too then. Would save a lot of admin work.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Maybe we should just burn all the Catholics too then. Would save a lot of admin work.

It would in the Vatican anyway.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It would in the Vatican anyway.

Not since Henry VIII.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Not since Henry VIII.

I think you'll find dealing with Catholicism still takes up quite a bit of the Vatican's time.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I think you'll find dealing with Catholicism still takes up quite a bit of the Vatican's time.

We are talking, aren’t we, of the UK. Where since Henry VIII Kings no longer pay homage to Popes.

We didn’t involve the Vatican when we burned a few back then, so why now?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

We are talking, aren’t we, of the UK. Where since Henry VIII Kings no longer pay homage to Popes.

We didn’t involve the Vatican when we burned a few back then, so why now?

Because we were talking about people who look different and my contention was that Catholics and Protestants look the same but don't let stop you having the traditional argument about it.
This is where you can argue about whether you were arguing.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Because we were talking about people who look different and my contention was that Catholics and Protestants look the same but don't let stop you having the traditional argument about it.
This is where you can argue about whether you were arguing.

No.

It’s because you decided to introduce the Vatican. Which lies in the middle of Rome. Not here.

The original point was that only people who look different need worry that the xenophobic right will target them. If you are “European” and “White” all’s well. Whatever branch of religion you favour. You will be regarded as one of us and not one of them.

 

[ASCPFC]

We are talking, aren’t we, of the UK. Where since Henry VIII Kings no longer pay homage to Popes.

We didn’t involve the Vatican when we burned a few back then, so why now?

Henry VIII wasn't that bothered about burning Catholics. I find it quite funny when persecution of Catholics is mentioned. Protestants were burned all over Europe for wanting religion in their own language largely. And I don't think Latin America lost 10s of millions of people from Protestants saying stick to the bible.
Only in England does it seem that Protestants were really much of a majority and realistically that comes from Elizabeth I and after. Even she wasn't too bothered until the Pope signed her death warrant. Mary Tudor might be more up everyone's street but, again, feels more Spanish influence than England being full of zealotry.
Wouldn't take long to find religious zealots today however, but they likely know little of Tudor history.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

No.

It’s because you decided to introduce the Vatican. Which lies in the middle of Rome. Not here.

The original point was that only people who look different need worry that the xenophobic right will target them. If you are “European” and “White” all’s well. Whatever branch of religion you favour. You will be regarded as one of us and not one of them.

Another of your diversions goes awry. European and white then alls well? That's several hundred years of religious bigotry written off. If you look back the point was also made that Russians and Ukrainians look the same.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Henry VIII wasn't that bothered about burning Catholics. I find it quite funny when persecution of Catholics is mentioned. Protestants were burned all over Europe for wanting religion in their own language largely. And I don't think Latin America lost 10s of millions of people from Protestants saying stick to the bible.
Only in England does it seem that Protestants were really much of a majority and realistically that comes from Elizabeth I and after. Even she wasn't too bothered until the Pope signed her death warrant. Mary Tudor might be more up everyone's street but, again, feels more Spanish influence than England being full of zealotry.
Wouldn't take long to find religious zealots today however, but they likely know little of Tudor history.

I did say since Henry VIII and not the man himself! It was a terrible period of extreme views and no compassion on either side. A lesson that ought to be relearned today. Many Protestants being burned here too. Not a good example of the love and peace religion.

This kind of attitude, still around today, is one of the reasons I turned my back on all religion.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Another of your diversions goes awry. European and white then alls well? That's several hundred years of religious bigotry written off. If you look back the point was also made that Russians and Ukrainians look the same.

Russians and Ukrainians don’t just look the same. They are, mostly, both Slavs so ethnically the same. If they were living in a AfD controlled Germany, or here under an extreme Reform, who actually tried to follow through on their threat of repatriation, neither would need to worry. They aren’t the target.

Religious bigotry is separate to racial xenophobia.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Russians and Ukrainians don’t just look the same. They are, mostly, both Slavs so ethnically the same. If they were living in a AfD controlled Germany, or here under an extreme Reform, who actually tried to follow through on their threat of repatriation, neither would need to worry. They aren’t the target.

Religious bigotry is separate to racial xenophobia.

That's the point - being white Europeans hasn't done much to keep Ukraine safe.

The EU is a far bigger threat to democracy than Musk

The Brussels set has been overthrowing governments and ignoring referendums for decades.

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